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I've read endless articles about the holes we need to fill and the problems at the top of the order( which are there for all to see) the holes in the OF and the unrealiable defence. However i would start the off-season by nailing down a pitcher especialy one as qualified as Burnett for the very reasons Hendry has stated himself. If we lose a starter ie Wood or Prior we do not want to be caught short. This also sends out a messege to our own players and potential FA that we meen buisness. the focus would then turn to defence. We could possibly Start Cedeno at SS and look for the leadoff man to come from the OF ie Lofton, Pierre, Damon. The biggest reason i am willing to go after AJ is that i predict a career year from Wood otherwise he will be finished as a starter in the Majors. Wood above all else is determined and proud and i think he will get himself right for this season. Therefor if and its a big IF (but worth it in my opinion) we get full years out of Prior , Big Z, AJ and Wood it wouldn't matter what was in the lineup that is just Sick especially if you think about playoff baseball. The biggest question is does the potential upside out way the fact that we could suffer the injury bug again?. Another factor to consider is that this could be Dusty, Wood and Hendrys last year so will JH feel it is a win or bust situation?/

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I know some people here are more in favor of going after Millwood, but I'm with you.

 

I love the potential reward of signing Burnett, and just imagining how dominant that staff could be. We'd be the talk of baseball, and the staff could easily outperform the 2003 staff. I agree that Wood is in for a big year. Now that his shoulder is cleared up, he has no excuses. Plus, like you mentioned, it's a contract year for him.

 

If it were up to me, the major priorities would be to keep Nomar, sign Giles, and sign Burnett. I'd then try to swing a trade using a couple of our extra arms to get Bradley or Cameron to play CF.

 

I think Hendry is dead set on getting Furcal at SS, though. I suppose we'll see. But he seems to be focused on picking up a "prototypical leadoff man."

 

My scenario would give us the following lineup & rotation

 

LF - Murton, CF - Bradley or Cameron, RF - Giles, 1B - Lee, 2B - Walker, SS - Nomar, 3B - Ramirez, C - Barrett

 

SP - Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Burnett, Maddux

 

Looks pretty formidable to me.. strong lineup and strong staff

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I wouldn't be upset at signing Burnett, but I don't think he should be a top priority.

 

If healthy, we have a top pitching staff. Also, since health is the primary concern, the last move to insure against it is to sign a pitcher with health issues himself. If we're going to sign another starter, I'd prefer to sign one that has avoided most health related issues.

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I wouldn't be upset at signing Burnett, but I don't think he should be a top priority.

 

If healthy, we have a top pitching staff. Also, since health is the primary concern, the last move to insure against it is to sign a pitcher with health issues himself. If we're going to sign another starter, I'd prefer to sign one that has avoided most health related issues.

 

I agree with you on the injury risk issue. I guess it's just the gambler in me. I've always wanted that fourth true power arm for the staff. Burnett could/would be that guy.

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I totally agree with what you say Vance but does the thought of a Rotation of Prior , Wood, Big Z, AJ , Maddux not even make your heart skip a little bit??!! Adding to that we would have Rusch and williams in reserve if things do go wrong?. I also have to believe this is Kerrys year, it just has to be. If i'm Hendry i'm also thinking that the time is ticking on this much publicised rotation and maybe its time to light a fire under it. One last thought JH played it very carefully last winter taking little or no risks might he have a different outlook this time around?.
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Right now, the Cubs have 6 SP's: Z,Wood,Prior,Maddux,Williams & Rusch

 

This talk about the Cubs going after one of the top 2 SP FA's (Burnett/Millwood) out there is unrealistic.

I think JH is set with the rotation & will maybe sign one FA for the BP.

Maybe they trade Williams for bullpen help or a OF. Who knows? He is not a RP type, so moving him to the BP doesn't make much sense. I say keep Williams & his league minimum salary & make him the #5 SP & use Rusch as insurance for the rotation & use him as a swingman/long relief.

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Out of curiosity, does anyone have any idea how much Burnett is going to command on the market?

 

I was guessing anywhere from 8-12, (more likely on the higher end) but that's a complete guess.

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I totally agree with what you say Vance but does the thought of a Rotation of Prior , Wood, Big Z, AJ , Maddux not even make your heart skip a little bit??!! Adding to that we would have Rusch and williams in reserve if things do go wrong?. I also have to believe this is Kerrys year, it just has to be. If i'm Hendry i'm also thinking that the time is ticking on this much publicised rotation and maybe its time to light a fire under it. One last thought JH played it very carefully last winter taking little or no risks might he have a different outlook this time around?.

 

If all goes well and that rotation stays healthy, we're going to have some unhappy campers on our hands (Rusch and Williams).

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Right now, the Cubs have 6 SP's: Z,Wood,Prior,Maddux,Williams & Rusch

 

This talk about the Cubs going after one of the top 2 SP FA's (Burnett/Millwood) out there is unrealistic.

I think JH is set with the rotation & will maybe sign one FA for the BP.

Maybe they trade Williams for bullpen help or a OF. Who knows? He is not a RP type, so moving him to the BP doesn't make much sense.

 

It's not like we just made it up. Various reports say that Hendry wants to improve the pitching situation...

 

Despite bringing back Rusch, the Cubs still are intrigued by the possibility of adding another power arm like Burnett. After back-to-back springs dealing with injuries to Kerry Wood and Mark Prior, and with Wood coming off shoulder surgery in September, Hendry wants six quality starters going into Arizona next February.

 

"I am not going to be caught short," Hendry said. "We've had good health reports on everyone, but I'm not going to take a chance of going to spring training and someone goes down. Or there's a snag in someone's rehab. Or so-and-so is off to a bad start."

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-051031cubs,1,7925414.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

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I totally agree with what you say Vance but does the thought of a Rotation of Prior , Wood, Big Z, AJ , Maddux not even make your heart skip a little bit??!! Adding to that we would have Rusch and williams in reserve if things do go wrong?. I also have to believe this is Kerrys year, it just has to be. If i'm Hendry i'm also thinking that the time is ticking on this much publicised rotation and maybe its time to light a fire under it. One last thought JH played it very carefully last winter taking little or no risks might he have a different outlook this time around?.

 

If all goes well and that rotation stays healthy, we're going to have some unhappy campers on our hands (Rusch and Williams).

 

True...although, I'd like to see them trade Williams for a bat in CF.

 

As for Rusch, let him be unhappy. He was promised a shot at the rotation, not a spot. He can try to beat those guys out, but he won't, even with a fair shot. Besides, even if they stay relatively healthy, I'm sure there will be random injuries where he'll get more than a few spot starts.

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Not as unhappy as i will be if Wood and Prior go down again. Also Rusch has signed for 2 years knowing full well this will be Maddux's last year. I also believe we might be able to package williams for something Tasty, when other teams evaluate our talent surely williams is far more attractive than Mitre or Karonka???
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The Cubs have enough depth in the rotation. Spend the money on improving the offense & the bench.

 

You say it's depth. Maybe I'm greedy/spoiled, but I want great pitchers at least 1-4. As it stands right now, the dropoff after Prior, Z, and Wood is pretty substantial.

 

They have more than enough money freed up to sign Giles, re-sign Nomar, and still get one of the top two pitchers on the market. And Giles is the type of addition that alone will make a significant improvement to the offense.

 

As for Nomar, yes, he's a risk to get hurt. But he would cost a lot less than Furcal and could easily outperform him, and the money saved can help bring in a starting pitcher. Plus, signing the starting pitcher allows us to trade some of that depth for another bat.

 

The Giles situation aside, to me, Nomar + Burnett/Millwood > Furcal (+ Williams/Rusch in the rotation).

 

If the worst happens and Nomar gets hurt, you give Cedeno a shot.

 

Needless to say, I don't think it's very realistic (or necessarily the best choice) to go after Furcal, Giles, AND a starting pitcher.

 

Thoughts?

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Dusty would run Burnett into the ground. The only safe SP signing for the Cubs would be a durable verteran innings eater.

 

How true... Nothing I can really say to that. :oops: :cry:

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Little bit off the subject but boy do i dislike the Mets and there fans. Just read a whole load of them baiting Braves Fans about stealing him and moving him to 2B. Typical Mets move a premium SS to 2ND base and Pay him premium SS money. Good luck when Raffy takes the 1B head off with one of those throws!!!
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I've read endless articles about the holes we need to fill and the problems at the top of the order( which are there for all to see) the holes in the OF and the unrealiable defence. However i would start the off-season by nailing down a pitcher especialy one as qualified as Burnett for the very reasons Hendry has stated himself. If we lose a starter ie Wood or Prior we do not want to be caught short. This also sends out a messege to our own players and potential FA that we meen buisness. the focus would then turn to defence. We could possibly Start Cedeno at SS and look for the leadoff man to come from the OF ie Lofton, Pierre, Damon. The biggest reason i am willing to go after AJ is that i predict a career year from Wood otherwise he will be finished as a starter in the Majors. Wood above all else is determined and proud and i think he will get himself right for this season. Therefor if and its a big IF (but worth it in my opinion) we get full years out of Prior , Big Z, AJ and Wood it wouldn't matter what was in the lineup that is just Sick especially if you think about playoff baseball. The biggest question is does the potential upside out way the fact that we could suffer the injury bug again?. Another factor to consider is that this could be Dusty, Wood and Hendrys last year so will JH feel it is a win or bust situation?/

 

I certainly think Hendry is going to make an attempt to get him. He seems very serious about wanting 6 starters ready.

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I've read endless articles about the holes we need to fill and the problems at the top of the order( which are there for all to see) the holes in the OF and the unrealiable defence. However i would start the off-season by nailing down a pitcher especialy one as qualified as Burnett for the very reasons Hendry has stated himself. If we lose a starter ie Wood or Prior we do not want to be caught short. This also sends out a messege to our own players and potential FA that we meen buisness. the focus would then turn to defence. We could possibly Start Cedeno at SS and look for the leadoff man to come from the OF ie Lofton, Pierre, Damon. The biggest reason i am willing to go after AJ is that i predict a career year from Wood otherwise he will be finished as a starter in the Majors. Wood above all else is determined and proud and i think he will get himself right for this season. Therefor if and its a big IF (but worth it in my opinion) we get full years out of Prior , Big Z, AJ and Wood it wouldn't matter what was in the lineup that is just Sick especially if you think about playoff baseball. The biggest question is does the potential upside out way the fact that we could suffer the injury bug again?. Another factor to consider is that this could be Dusty, Wood and Hendrys last year so will JH feel it is a win or bust situation?/

 

I certainly think Hendry is going to make an attempt to get him. He seems very serious about wanting 6 starters ready.

Then why sign Rusch? That 3mil could be put towards a better SP like Burnett.

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I'd have no problem with Burnett. I know he's had an injury history, but he's been healthy for a year and a half. Wood and Maddux come off the books next year. The money is there. Worst case, the Cubs overpay for a pitcher who's still pretty good when healthy. Best case, he solidifies an already solid rotation.
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I've read endless articles about the holes we need to fill and the problems at the top of the order( which are there for all to see) the holes in the OF and the unrealiable defence. However i would start the off-season by nailing down a pitcher especialy one as qualified as Burnett for the very reasons Hendry has stated himself. If we lose a starter ie Wood or Prior we do not want to be caught short. This also sends out a messege to our own players and potential FA that we meen buisness. the focus would then turn to defence. We could possibly Start Cedeno at SS and look for the leadoff man to come from the OF ie Lofton, Pierre, Damon. The biggest reason i am willing to go after AJ is that i predict a career year from Wood otherwise he will be finished as a starter in the Majors. Wood above all else is determined and proud and i think he will get himself right for this season. Therefor if and its a big IF (but worth it in my opinion) we get full years out of Prior , Big Z, AJ and Wood it wouldn't matter what was in the lineup that is just Sick especially if you think about playoff baseball. The biggest question is does the potential upside out way the fact that we could suffer the injury bug again?. Another factor to consider is that this could be Dusty, Wood and Hendrys last year so will JH feel it is a win or bust situation?/

 

I certainly think Hendry is going to make an attempt to get him. He seems very serious about wanting 6 starters ready.

Then why sign Rusch? That 3mil could be put towards a better SP like Burnett.

 

Because Hendry likes having the lefty at $2.75M, and with the cash available that signing should not be an impediment to adding another power starter as well as OF and SS.

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I've read endless articles about the holes we need to fill and the problems at the top of the order( which are there for all to see) the holes in the OF and the unrealiable defence. However i would start the off-season by nailing down a pitcher especialy one as qualified as Burnett for the very reasons Hendry has stated himself. If we lose a starter ie Wood or Prior we do not want to be caught short. This also sends out a messege to our own players and potential FA that we meen buisness. the focus would then turn to defence. We could possibly Start Cedeno at SS and look for the leadoff man to come from the OF ie Lofton, Pierre, Damon. The biggest reason i am willing to go after AJ is that i predict a career year from Wood otherwise he will be finished as a starter in the Majors. Wood above all else is determined and proud and i think he will get himself right for this season. Therefor if and its a big IF (but worth it in my opinion) we get full years out of Prior , Big Z, AJ and Wood it wouldn't matter what was in the lineup that is just Sick especially if you think about playoff baseball. The biggest question is does the potential upside out way the fact that we could suffer the injury bug again?. Another factor to consider is that this could be Dusty, Wood and Hendrys last year so will JH feel it is a win or bust situation?/

 

I certainly think Hendry is going to make an attempt to get him. He seems very serious about wanting 6 starters ready.

Then why sign Rusch? That 3mil could be put towards a better SP like Burnett.

 

Because Hendry likes having the lefty at $2.75M, and with the cash available that signing should not be an impediment to adding another power starter as well as OF and SS.

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i disagree. How many pitchers can we have in our bullpen and starting rotation. Unless someone gets traded or two pitchers injured where do you expect to have all of these pitchers? 13-man staff?

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