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Here's a quote from a guy from another board defending the Cubs:

 

With all this talk about the two teams records which team won more games in September? The Cubs with 17 vs the D'backs 15. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. I think about playoff experience and there is very little on the D'back roster compared to the Cubs. As a matter of fact the D'backs as a team have a total of 38 postseason ABs and 16 games pitched from a total of FOUR players. While the Cubs have 17 players on their 40 man roster with post-season experience including seven of which will be among the starting nine on Wednesday. The Cubs pitchers have pitched in nearly as many postseason games (36) as the Diamondbacks have had postseason at-bats (38). Six Cubs players have also reached the World Series, with other clubs, obviously. So, I say this series comes down to playoff experience and I give it to the Cubs in four.

 

How much do you think experience will play into this series?

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I'm not a big believer in anything having to do with experience at all. If the Cubs win, it'll be because they're more talented and played to their potential.

 

Whoever scores more runs in these baseball games will win.

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Here's a quote from a guy from another board defending the Cubs:

 

With all this talk about the two teams records which team won more games in September? The Cubs with 17 vs the D'backs 15. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. I think about playoff experience and there is very little on the D'back roster compared to the Cubs. As a matter of fact the D'backs as a team have a total of 38 postseason ABs and 16 games pitched from a total of FOUR players. While the Cubs have 17 players on their 40 man roster with post-season experience including seven of which will be among the starting nine on Wednesday. The Cubs pitchers have pitched in nearly as many postseason games (36) as the Diamondbacks have had postseason at-bats (38). Six Cubs players have also reached the World Series, with other clubs, obviously. So, I say this series comes down to playoff experience and I give it to the Cubs in four.

 

How much do you think experience will play into this series?

 

not much, if any. the small sample size doesn't really allow anything but luck to be much of a factor.

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Whoever scores more runs in these baseball games will win.

 

That's true, but you don't think experience helps contribute to dealing with the pressure which, in turn, leads a team to score more runs?

 

I do. Maybe not a huge factor, but a factor nonetheless.

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Here's a quote from a guy from another board defending the Cubs:

 

With all this talk about the two teams records which team won more games in September? The Cubs with 17 vs the D'backs 15. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. I think about playoff experience and there is very little on the D'back roster compared to the Cubs. As a matter of fact the D'backs as a team have a total of 38 postseason ABs and 16 games pitched from a total of FOUR players. While the Cubs have 17 players on their 40 man roster with post-season experience including seven of which will be among the starting nine on Wednesday. The Cubs pitchers have pitched in nearly as many postseason games (36) as the Diamondbacks have had postseason at-bats (38). Six Cubs players have also reached the World Series, with other clubs, obviously. So, I say this series comes down to playoff experience and I give it to the Cubs in four.

 

How much do you think experience will play into this series?

 

not much, if any. the small sample size doesn't really allow anything but luck to be much of a factor.

 

I wouldn't go that far with the whole "playoffs are a crapshoot" thing. The better team usually wins in a given series, especially the further apart the teams are in terms of quality. The small sample certainly allows for a bad team to luck into it much moreso than a 162 game season, but to say that luck is just about the only factor is too far. It's not like every team goes in with a 1/8 chance of winning it all.

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Whoever scores more runs in these baseball games will win.

 

That's true, but you don't think experience helps contribute to dealing with the pressure which, in turn, leads a team to score more runs?

 

I do. Maybe not a huge factor, but a factor nonetheless.

 

I don't. If it plays any role, it's almost 100% insignificant. Inexperienced teams go into the playoffs and have success all the time.

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Here's a quote from a guy from another board defending the Cubs:

 

With all this talk about the two teams records which team won more games in September? The Cubs with 17 vs the D'backs 15. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. I think about playoff experience and there is very little on the D'back roster compared to the Cubs. As a matter of fact the D'backs as a team have a total of 38 postseason ABs and 16 games pitched from a total of FOUR players. While the Cubs have 17 players on their 40 man roster with post-season experience including seven of which will be among the starting nine on Wednesday. The Cubs pitchers have pitched in nearly as many postseason games (36) as the Diamondbacks have had postseason at-bats (38). Six Cubs players have also reached the World Series, with other clubs, obviously. So, I say this series comes down to playoff experience and I give it to the Cubs in four.

 

How much do you think experience will play into this series?

 

not much, if any. the small sample size doesn't really allow anything but luck to be much of a factor.

 

I wouldn't go that far with the whole "playoffs are a crapshoot" thing. The better team usually wins in a given series, especially the further apart the teams are in terms of quality. The small sample certainly allows for a bad team to luck into it much moreso than a 162 game season, but to say that luck is just about the only factor is too far. It's not like every team goes in with a 1/8 chance of winning it all.

 

depends on what your definition of "usually" is.

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Whoever scores more runs in these baseball games will win.

 

That's true, but you don't think experience helps contribute to dealing with the pressure which, in turn, leads a team to score more runs?

 

I do. Maybe not a huge factor, but a factor nonetheless.

 

I don't. If it plays any role, it's almost 100% insignificant. Inexperienced teams go into the playoffs and have success all the time.

 

Yes, but I'm sure there are teams who choke because of the pressure too. Just because inexperienced teams win, doesn't mean that don't lose either.

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Whoever scores more runs in these baseball games will win.

 

That's true, but you don't think experience helps contribute to dealing with the pressure which, in turn, leads a team to score more runs?

 

I do. Maybe not a huge factor, but a factor nonetheless.

 

I don't. If it plays any role, it's almost 100% insignificant. Inexperienced teams go into the playoffs and have success all the time.

 

Yes, but I'm sure there are teams who choke because of the pressure too. Just because inexperienced teams win, doesn't mean that don't lose either.

 

Of course some of them win and some of them lose. Some experienced teams win and some lose too.

 

I'm saying there's little to no difference in the rates at which they do.

 

If we want to conjure up arguments like this, you could say that players who have failed in the playoffs before will feel more pressure than players who have never played in them and are blissfully ignorant to them.

 

I don't buy into it either way.

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you cannot predict wins and losses from game to game based on a limited supply of data. you can predict an overall trend with a large supply of data.

 

experience, if it matters at all, won't be nearly the factor that luck is. luck is the prevailing factor.

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Whoever scores more runs in these baseball games will win.

 

That's true, but you don't think experience helps contribute to dealing with the pressure which, in turn, leads a team to score more runs?

 

I do. Maybe not a huge factor, but a factor nonetheless.

 

I don't. If it plays any role, it's almost 100% insignificant. Inexperienced teams go into the playoffs and have success all the time.

 

Yes, but I'm sure there are teams who choke because of the pressure too. Just because inexperienced teams win, doesn't mean that don't lose either.

 

Of course some of them win and some of them lose. Some experienced teams win and some lose too.

 

I'm saying there's little to no difference in the rates at which they do.

 

If we want to conjure up arguments like this, you could say that players who have failed in the playoffs before will feel more pressure than players who have never played in them and are blissfully ignorant to them.

 

I don't buy into it either way.

 

All I'm saying is that this is an intangible that cannot be measured so we really don't know one way or the other.

 

I'm a pretty good guitar player and singer. I get paid to do it. But there are certain times when I get a little nervous because of the venue and because I don't do it as often -- like weddings. And I can tell that I'm not quite as sharp as an environment I'm more familar with -- such as playing in restaurants.

 

I know the people are this board are very statistically based and that's fine. But you cannot ignore intangibles such as home field advantage, playoff experience, etc. You can't measure experience so it's hard to prove my point. But surely, there are some teams that have to be more affected by an unfamiliar circumstance than others?

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you cannot predict wins and losses from game to game based on a limited supply of data. you can predict an overall trend with a large supply of data.

 

experience, if it matters at all, won't be nearly the factor that luck is. luck is the prevailing factor.

 

I think experience does matter, albeit not a big factor. I agree that luck is a bigger factor, second only to talent.

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I said it once and I'll say it again..Experience is a stupid sports cliche that means anything..Kendall has " experience" so what?? Soto outperforms in both offense and defense..Its all about how you perform..AZ is a young team,but theyre "grinders" and play all out all game. "Experience" means nothing.It's all about going out there and performing and who does better
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The better team usually wins a series, but regardless of the winner, experience will have nothing to do with it.

 

Production is the result of skill, talent, and luck, and experience (edit - especially playoff experience) plays a negligible role in those factors.

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I said it once and I'll say it again..Experience is a stupid sports cliche that means anything..Kendall has " experience" so what?? Soto outperforms in both offense and defense..Its all about how you perform..AZ is a young team,but theyre "grinders" and play all out all game. "Experience" means nothing.It's all about going out there and performing and who does better

 

Can you say it one more time, please???

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you cannot predict wins and losses from game to game based on a limited supply of data. you can predict an overall trend with a large supply of data.

 

experience, if it matters at all, won't be nearly the factor that luck is. luck is the prevailing factor.

 

I think experience does matter, albeit not a big factor. I agree that luck is a bigger factor, second only to talent.

 

in a short series, luck is a bigger factor than talent. especially considering both teams are good enough to have made the postseason in the first place

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those 2003 Florida Marlins were just chock full o' experience, eh?

 

Actually they were.

 

Pudge Rodriguez, Jeff Conine, Derrek Lee, Juan Encarnacion, Mike Lowell, Todd Hollandsworth, Luis Castillo

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Experience may play a factor in certain situations, but over the course of an entire game it usally doesn't play a factor in the overall outcome of the game IMO. Unless of course, you consider Gonzo and the booted grounder in the 8th or the Bull and that grounder that went through his legs. Those had big impacts on their games. ;)

 

You can't discount experience overall IMO, but it just usually doesn't affect the overall game unless it's a big-time situation in which someone barfs it up. If it has little likelihood of affecting one game, it's even less likely to affect the results of a 5 or 7 game series.

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