Tejada

Neuby · May 16, 2006

I don't think the Phillies are going to be trading Abreu this season unless they get some guys that can step and perform now. The Cubs don't seem to be a fit for the Phillies. Miggy might be one of the only true difference makers on the offensive side of the game that will be on the block this season. Could the Cubs build a package around some of there young pitchers to get Miggy? Move Cedeno to second base. Let Walker man first until Lee gets back. Walker off the bench with the ability to play first,second,third and left field would be awfully nice. Wow who would have thought a guy that can play multiple postions and hit what a novel idea!

Pierre

Cedeno

Lee

Miggy

Ramirez

Jones

Murton

Barrett

CubfaninCA · May 16, 2006

I don't think the Phillies are going to be trading Abreu this season unless they get some guys that can step and perform now. The Cubs don't seem to be a fit for the Phillies. Miggy might be one of the only true difference makers on the offensive side of the game that will be on the block this season. Could the Cubs build a package around some of there young pitchers to get Miggy? Move Cedeno to second base. Let Walker man first until Lee gets back. Walker off the bench with the ability to play first,second,third and left field would be awfully nice. Wow who would have thought a guy that can play multiple postions and hit what a novel idea!

Pierre
Cedeno
Lee
Miggy
Ramirez
Jones
Murton
Barrett

well, i think cedeno's part of any package for tejada. say goodbye to guzman too.

Warpticon · May 16, 2006

a) His name is Tejada, not Tejeda.

b) If it is determined that this team isn't going anywhere currently, the last thing I want to do is to trade young, developing talent for a big contract star who may not make a significant difference immediately and may hamper other moves in the near future.

CubfaninCA · May 16, 2006

a) His name is Tejada, not Tejeda.
b) If it is determined that this team isn't going anywhere currently, the last thing I want to do is to trade young, developing talent for a big contract star who may not make a significant difference immediately and may hamper other moves in the near future.

what future moves would he hamper? the cubs desperately need another slugger, and are going to have to pay big bucks for one.

beggars can't be choosers....

Rusch33 · May 16, 2006

I know I'm going to get butchered for it, but I thought they should have traded Prior for Tejada when the big rumor was rolling.

NorthsideAvenger · May 16, 2006

I know I'm going to get butchered for it, but I thought they should have traded Prior for Tejada when the big rumor was rolling.

IMO, you don't trade pitching for hitting, period. ONCE Prior proves tobe healthy, everybody is going to be happy the Cubs kept him.

Rusch33 · May 16, 2006

I know I'm going to get butchered for it, but I thought they should have traded Prior for Tejada when the big rumor was rolling.

IMO, you don't trade pitching for hitting, period. ONCE Prior proves tobe healthy, everybody is going to be happy the Cubs kept him.

We'll see.

I sure hope so.

Warpticon · May 16, 2006

a) His name is Tejada, not Tejeda.
b) If it is determined that this team isn't going anywhere currently, the last thing I want to do is to trade young, developing talent for a big contract star who may not make a significant difference immediately and may hamper other moves in the near future.

what future moves would he hamper? the cubs desperately need another slugger, and are going to have to pay big bucks for one.

beggars can't be choosers....

The team is 7 games below .500. Tejada is unlikely to be the difference between that and winning the division. Given that, what is the benefit of trading away talent to get him? Especially when some of that talent is at the same position? Just getting another slugger isn't going to save this team, and the buy-a-solution method hasn't been proving to work. If this season is going to be a wash, then it seems better to let the young players we've invested in gets ome experience and determine the future of this franchise. And I can't imagine how you could figure that adding 14 million annually wouldn't affect the team's bottom line--very possibly more Tejada's production affects the team's chances.

Neuby · May 16, 2006

a) His name is Tejada, not Tejeda.
b) If it is determined that this team isn't going anywhere currently, the last thing I want to do is to trade young, developing talent for a big contract star who may not make a significant difference immediately and may hamper other moves in the near future.

what future moves would he hamper? the cubs desperately need another slugger, and are going to have to pay big bucks for one.

beggars can't be choosers....

The team is 7 games below .500. Tejada is unlikely to be the difference between that and winning the division. Given that, what is the benefit of trading away talent to get him? Especially when some of that talent is at the same position? Just getting another slugger isn't going to save this team, and the buy-a-solution method hasn't been proving to work. If this season is going to be a wash, then it seems better to let the young players we've invested in gets ome experience and determine the future of this franchise. And I can't imagine how you could figure that adding 14 million annually wouldn't affect the team's bottom line--very possibly more Tejada's production affects the team's chances.

My bad on the spelling Tejeda himself might not be worth seven wins but he should be able to keep us in the hunt for a while longer. I think Tejeda alone would be worth a boost to this team to get us above water until a month from now when Lee returns, along with Wood,Miller,and Prior all either close to returning or getting settle into the rotation. Could anyone have thought that Pierre and Ramirez would combine to be this bad? How about Zambrano with only one win and were in Mid May? As bad as it has been were only 8.5 out and where only 37 games into the season. Tejeda is only 29 years old and wouldn't be a rental. The man is an ironman and one of the most feared hitters in the game. If he could be had in a trade for say Guzman,Hill,Williams,and Harvey would you pull the trigger?

Imagine this core

Pie

Murton

Tejeda

Lee

Cedeno

Barrett

Zambrano

Prior

Marshall

Marmol

Wood

Dempster

Eyre

Howry

A New Era · May 16, 2006

I'd do it, honestly. I just don't think it's gonna happen. I'd give Cedeno and Prior for it. You all can keep hoping and waiting year after year for Prior. But I do not care to.

A New Era · May 16, 2006

Imagine this core

Pie
Murton
Tejeda
Lee
Cedeno
Barrett

Zambrano
Prior
Marshall
Marmol
Wood
Dempster
Eyre
Howry

I totally missed this part. If you want Tejada. You have to take out 1 or 2 of Cedeno, Prior, or Marshall out of your "core".

Derwood · May 16, 2006

only Miggy I want is Cabrera

David · May 16, 2006

only Miggy I want is Cabrera

Seconded.

JWCUB · May 16, 2006

only Miggy I want is Cabrera

Seconded.

Amen.

Ding Dong Johnson · May 16, 2006

only Miggy I want is Cabrera

At the right price, I'd take them both.

Sammy Sofa · May 16, 2006

They're gonna need some more bat to replace Tejada. It would have to be 3 of the young guys plus Cedeno or Maddux and Marshall plus Cedeno...and then someone who can hit.

Granted, this guy is NOT that person, but try snowballing them with Pierre.

I'd love to see Cabrera as a Cub, but he'd decimate the farm system getting here. The O's want youth, too, but I think they wouldn't be as dead set on it as the Marlins are and have been.

daske17 · May 16, 2006

They're gonna need some more bat to replace Tejada. It would have to be 3 of the young guys plus Cedeno or Maddux and Marshall plus Cedeno...and then someone who can hit.

Granted, this guy is NOT that person, but try snowballing them with Pierre.

I'd love to see Cabrera as a Cub, but he'd decimate the farm system getting here. The O's want youth, too, but I think they wouldn't be as dead set on it as the Marlins are and have been.

:lol: Patterson could get sacked by the same guy who sacked him on the Cubs.

Sooner or later, Corey's going to think Hendry has a vendetta against him.

Neuby · May 16, 2006

I think the O's will realize there not one pitcher away thats why you can create a package of Guzman,Hill, Ryu and Harvey or Dope if he's healthy.

NorthsideAvenger · May 16, 2006

Now, if the Cubs believe they can make a playoff run THIS yr, then sure go after Tejada. But what in the last 2 weeks have given you---ANY CUBS FAN---that the Cubs are prime for a playoff run?

As appealing Tejada is.....I wouldn't waste the talent require to acquire him. Or at least not before the offseason.

Sammy Sofa · May 16, 2006

What's really being wasted? Cedeno I think will have a decent baseball career, but odds are it won't be anything spectacular. Marshall has been a pleasant surprise and again, I think will have a career in the bigs for a long time, but if it was as anything higher than a #3 starter I'd be even more surprised. I'd like to keep him, but this team needs some serious help. If they were making a push for a complete overhaul with longterm younger players, Marshall would be key, but this is the Cubs and they simply do not work that way, for better or for (usually) worse. Tossing in guys like Hill and Guzman...look, Guzman MIGHT pick it up down the line, but that's a HUGE maybe. This guy was touted as being ready for the 2003 playoffs if he hadn't been injured, and 3 years later he still looks not even close to ready...plus his recent minor league stints having be too great, either. I'd much rather gamble on guys like Prior and Wood who have had actual success as opposed to an injured never-was. And Hill is useless in this organization. Sell him as a speciality relief guy. As a starter he'd be a #5 or #6...Rusch with a big curve and without the man-teets. And I mentioned trading Maddux...look, I love Maddux as much as any man can without Brokebacking it, but he's in the last couple of years of his career. Tejada is getting older, but still has quite a few years left and is a proven superstar, unlike any of the guys I'm talking about trading besides Maddux. Getting him would require some big gambles pitching-wise, but if they man up and go pick up a good, reliable starter in the off season, I could live with it. That's a big if, but hey, big things need to be done. Trying to be a pitcher's team has left the offense pathetic. A big offensive injection is needed, and I think getting Tejada and eventually getting Pie up plsu getting back Lee would do that.

Elrhino · May 17, 2006

Giving up exendible or inferior talent to obtain superior talent isn't a waste. If you're so optimistic as to conclude decisively that Prior coming back is not a matter of if, but when, then Guzman is going to waste away with this franchise. A swap of Cedano for Tejada at SS is a no brainer. Its not just about this year, its down the road as well. The Cubs are going to need to add bats in the lineup this offseason, and they're going to have to pay a premium price to do it. Its just a fact. They shouldn't back themselves into a corner thinking they can only accomplish that in the months of December - February. That's how you find yourself deciding between Jacque Jones and Preston Wilson.

I'm happy with what Cedano has provided so far ... which gives all the more incentive to sell high, because he does not project to be that great of a player.

Sammy Sofa · May 17, 2006

Damn right. Sell him and guys like Guzman and Hill before they damage their "maybe" reps any further.

NorthsideAvenger · May 17, 2006

Elrhino, and TheMojoPin;

It would be a waste to acquire Tejada just to appease the media/fans. To Cubs right now....shouldn't be adding expensive players to a team that as of right now, has a little shot of making the playoffs. And it would be a WASTE to trade young, cheap talents to acquire a player would have NO impact to this yr's team. Why not hold the young players for the rest of the yr, see how they did, and go from there. Acquiring the big name is not also the right thing to do.

Besides the EARLIEST Tejada would be available would be the offseason, so why are we talking about an possible offseason acquistion during the season?

Sammy Sofa · May 17, 2006

Actually, I'm talking about a trade during the season OR after it...I just want to see the Cubs get the 3rd big bat they desperately need...a proven slugger that will get guys in and be able to help hold things down if Aramis or Lee get injured. This isn't about appeasing the fans...this is about getting a contending team, period. The Cubs have tried to be the team that wins with pitching for years now and outside of 2003 it's failed miserably. Keep the core starting pitchers, seek out another quality and reliable starter in the off season and use whatever pitching prospects ecessary with a team that's desperate for pitching to get that effective power bat this team needs.

davearm · May 17, 2006

Elrhino, and TheMojoPin;

It would be a waste to acquire Tejada just to appease the media/fans. To Cubs right now....shouldn't be adding expensive players to a team that as of right now, has a little shot of making the playoffs. And it would be a WASTE to trade young, cheap talents to acquire a player would have NO impact to this yr's team. Why not hold the young players for the rest of the yr, see how they did, and go from there. Acquiring the big name is not also the right thing to do.

Besides the EARLIEST Tejada would be available would be the offseason, so why are we talking about an possible offseason acquistion during the season?

Well as mojo indicated, the young players' value could go up... or it could go down. Right now might be the only time you could get a Tejada for, say, Cedeno+Marshall+Hill. That deal gets laughed off the table come the offseason, if our kids struggle.

And with respect to Tejada, this whole argument that the Cubs should not get him because they're not going to contend this year is silly. Tejada is signed through 2009. The only reason *not* to get him is if you think the team will not field a contender in 2006, 2007, 2008 *or* 2009.

I'm not ready to write off 2006, and I sure as heck think Tejada could be a major contributor to a winning team for the three years after this one.

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