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Ad Block / Donations

Postby Tim » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:53 am

With Apple's recent decision to push ad blocking to help in their war against Google, I've noticed a growing gap between the number of page hits vs the number of ad displays. In September, there were actually about 50% more overall pages displayed than pages with ads (33% of all pages were displayed with the ads blocked). I totally get why people do this. Ads are annoying and slow down the page load quite a bit. They're particularly annoying on mobile.

However, I still have to pay for the server to support the site, as well as a few miscellaneous other charges that occur from time to time.

So...

Would the people who view the site with an ad blocker be willing to make donations from time to time? What would seem fair? Should I post a link on the page to my paypal account or take another approach?

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Re: Ad Block / Donations

Postby David » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:55 am

Tim wrote:With Apple's recent decision to push ad blocking to help in their war against Google, I've noticed a growing gap between the number of page hits vs the number of ad displays. In September, there were actually about 50% more overall pages displayed than pages with ads (33% of all pages were displayed with the ads blocked). I totally get why people do this. Ads are annoying and slow down the page load quite a bit. They're particularly annoying on mobile.

However, I still have to pay for the server to support the site, as well as a few miscellaneous other charges that occur from time to time.

So...

Would the people who view the site with an ad blocker be willing to make donations from time to time? What would seem fair? Should I post a link on the page to my paypal account or take another approach?

Thanks!


I've said it before casually, but I'd be willing to pay for premium again to avoid ads and anything else you might want to include, or I'd be willing to donate since I'm an ad blocker.
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Postby Proven Veteran » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:13 pm

Is there any way to control which ads get displayed?

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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:17 pm

I don't use ad block, but I'd still make a small donation from time to time.

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Postby Tim » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:18 pm

Proven Veteran wrote:Is there any way to control which ads get displayed?

I don't use an ad blocker, so I have no idea.

I don't want to go mucking about in the code to make this happen like I did with premium back in the day. I'd prefer to just encourage donations (and make it easy to give them) for people blocking ads. I guess what I'm feeling out here is if that seems fair to people.

Apple's actions are really making this harder on smaller publishers/websites.
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Postby David » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:21 pm

btw, tim, how has traffic been this year relative to the last few (and the good years before that)?
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Postby Tim » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:45 pm

David wrote:btw, tim, how has traffic been this year relative to the last few (and the good years before that)?

April 1 - Sept 30 (In pageviews):

2015: 4,642,176
2014: 4,880,690
2013: 4,717,368
2012: 5,458,785
2011: 4,033,182
2010: 5,523,874
2009: 8,592,523
2008: 11,162,870
2007: 12,132,332
2006: didn't have google analytics yet

Fundamentally, a lot of people left during the bad years that haven't come back. There are just so many more options out there these days. Facebook and Twitter have sucked so much of the traffic from sites like mine in recent years.
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Re: Ad Block / Donations

Postby Proven Veteran » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:50 pm

Tim wrote:
Proven Veteran wrote:Is there any way to control which ads get displayed?

I don't use an ad blocker, so I have no idea.

I don't want to go mucking about in the code to make this happen like I did with premium back in the day. I'd prefer to just encourage donations (and make it easy to give them) for people blocking ads. I guess what I'm feeling out here is if that seems fair to people.

Apple's actions are really making this harder on smaller publishers/websites.



I meant on your end. Many of the ads displayed are of a very low quality (I know you have nothing to do with them). Is there a way to control from the ad service?

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Postby David » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:50 pm

Tim wrote:
David wrote:btw, tim, how has traffic been this year relative to the last few (and the good years before that)?

April 1 - Sept 30 (In pageviews):

2015: 4,642,176
2014: 4,880,690
2013: 4,717,368
2012: 5,458,785
2011: 4,033,182
2010: 5,523,874
2009: 8,592,523
2008: 11,162,870
2007: 12,132,332
2006: didn't have google analytics yet

Fundamentally, a lot of people left during the bad years that haven't come back. There are just so many more options out there these days. Facebook and Twitter have sucked so much of the traffic from sites like mine in recent years.


I expected some of that, but it's freaking crazy to me that we're down from the last 2-3 years. Big 2012 rebound from Theo I guess.
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Re: Ad Block / Donations

Postby Tim » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:04 pm

Proven Veteran wrote:
Tim wrote:
Proven Veteran wrote:Is there any way to control which ads get displayed?

I don't use an ad blocker, so I have no idea.

I don't want to go mucking about in the code to make this happen like I did with premium back in the day. I'd prefer to just encourage donations (and make it easy to give them) for people blocking ads. I guess what I'm feeling out here is if that seems fair to people.

Apple's actions are really making this harder on smaller publishers/websites.



I meant on your end. Many of the ads displayed are of a very low quality (I know you have nothing to do with them). Is there a way to control from the ad service?

They're all from Adsense. Google doesn't give a whole lot of control.
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Re: Ad Block / Donations

Postby Derwood » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:53 pm

I've seen some sites that just post a sticky with a monthly donation goal and keep it updated as people donate. Seems to work well in motivating people to chip in

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Postby Tim » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:02 pm

Derwood wrote:I've seen some sites that just post a sticky with a monthly donation goal and keep it updated as people donate. Seems to work well in motivating people to chip in

What's a typical goal they put out there?
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Postby Derwood » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:08 pm

Tim wrote:
Derwood wrote:I've seen some sites that just post a sticky with a monthly donation goal and keep it updated as people donate. Seems to work well in motivating people to chip in

What's a typical goal they put out there?


https://www.thetfp.com/donate/goals

No idea what kind of traffic they get or what their costs are

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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:32 pm

Can't we raise money by putting out a sexy calendar?
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Re: Ad Block / Donations

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:33 pm

Can someone first tell me how to ad-block on mobile (using iPhone/safari)?
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Postby Tim » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:47 pm

okay - I put something out there. Seems to work well enough.
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Postby Tim » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:54 pm

bummer that it only shows on the board index. I don't know about anyone else, but I hardly ever go to that page anymore. All my time is spent on either "active topics" or within a thread.
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Re: Ad Block / Donations

Postby David » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:27 pm

Tim wrote:bummer that it only shows on the board index. I don't know about anyone else, but I hardly ever go to that page anymore. All my time is spent on either "active topics" or within a thread.


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Re: Ad Block / Donations

Postby David » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:30 pm

Donation made! :D

EDIT - Weird. It didn't go up. Glitch?
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Postby Derwood » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:42 pm

I use Board index. I don't like active topics because I kind of have a pattern about which forums I visit first each time.

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Re: Ad Block / Donations

Postby Tim » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:47 pm

David wrote:Donation made! :D

EDIT - Weird. It didn't go up. Glitch?

It went through. Thanks!

oh...I have to update the total manually.
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Re: Ad Block / Donations

Postby Duke Silver » Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:59 pm

How much are you expecting/wanting at this time, Tim? I just donated a little bit, under the assumption that I will donate more from time to time. But, if you would rather just have one lump sum to cover us for a year or two, I can donate more now.

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Re: Ad Block / Donations

Postby Tim » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:03 pm

Duke Silver wrote:How much are you expecting/wanting at this time, Tim? I just donated a little bit, under the assumption that I will donate more from time to time. But, if you would rather just have one lump sum to cover us for a year or two, I can donate more now.

Honestly, whatever you're comfortable with doing.

I appreciate the support!
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Re: Ad Block / Donations

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:29 pm

You're lucky I'm feeling nice. I'm usually a tight ass.
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Re: Ad Block / Donations

Postby Tim » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:33 pm

Bob Sanders wrote:You're lucky I'm feeling nice. I'm usually a tight ass.

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