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Postby Banedon » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:26 pm

Derwood wrote:Oscar reel with pre and post- FX shots side by side

http://www.polygon.com/2016/1/13/107646 ... ce-awakens


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Well dammit, now I wanna go see it again.

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Postby OleMissCub » Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:20 pm

Watching that made me wonder if at some point in the future someone is going to go back and fix the crappy CGI in the prequels. CGI isn't so much a problem with modern film, it's bad CGI that is the problem. Of course, no amount of CGI improvement could fix the crappy story and bad acting of the prequels, but less obvious CG would help.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:26 pm

OleMissCub wrote:Watching that made me wonder if at some point in the future someone is going to go back and fix the crappy CGI in the prequels. CGI isn't so much a problem with modern film, it's bad CGI that is the problem. Of course, no amount of CGI improvement could fix the crappy story and bad acting of the prequels, but less obvious CG would help.


Just give up on it already. That would a flogging-worthy waste of money and resources.

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Sammy Sofa wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:Watching that made me wonder if at some point in the future someone is going to go back and fix the crappy CGI in the prequels. CGI isn't so much a problem with modern film, it's bad CGI that is the problem. Of course, no amount of CGI improvement could fix the crappy story and bad acting of the prequels, but less obvious CG would help.


Just give up on it already. That would a flogging-worthy waste of money and resources.


What about a complete reboot of the prequels with a good script and removing the unnecessary clutter? The back story of Anakin/ Darth Vader would be compelling enough. Using actors with believable chemistry as Padme and younger Anakin would make that story so much more powerful. Plus, people aren't married to the prequels so the director could change whatever elements they want without getting too much backlash.
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Postby Stannis » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:14 am

Derwood wrote:Darts Vader may be in Rogue

http://m.ign.com/articles/2016/01/14/da ... wars-story


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Sammy Sofa wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:Watching that made me wonder if at some point in the future someone is going to go back and fix the crappy CGI in the prequels. CGI isn't so much a problem with modern film, it's bad CGI that is the problem. Of course, no amount of CGI improvement could fix the crappy story and bad acting of the prequels, but less obvious CG would help.


Just give up on it already. That would a flogging-worthy waste of money and resources.


What about a complete reboot of the prequels with a good script and removing the unnecessary clutter? The back story of Anakin/ Darth Vader would be compelling enough. Using actors with believable chemistry as Padme and younger Anakin would make that story so much more powerful. Plus, people aren't married to the prequels so the director could change whatever elements they want without getting too much backlash.


i'd like to see that era, if not those exact stories, remade with anakin as the protagonist. like, really invest in the story of him as a sympathetic character. the constant foreshadowing and winking at the audience about his turn to the dark side is super awful
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Postby TruffleShuffle » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:30 am

all of that would be awesome, but has a movie franchise ever just remade some of its films because the original ones were a tire fire?

and the worst part about anakin isn't that the foreshadowing was bad, but that they didn't even bother to make him sympathetic in the first place. he was pretty much a whiny douche the whole time with padme, and was a dick to the council of jedi. even early on, before he marries padme, he massacres a bunch of tusken raiders because he's in a bad mood. for a long time i thought hayden christensen's inability to act made the character unsympathetic. but really, i think they were just really lazy and assumed that the audience would see him as a good guy because he was ostensibly on the "right team."

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Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:31 am

TruffleShuffle wrote:all of that would be awesome, but has a movie franchise ever just remade some of its films because the original ones were a tire fire?

and the worst part about anakin isn't that the foreshadowing was bad, but that they didn't even bother to make him sympathetic in the first place. he was pretty much a whiny douche the whole time with padme, and was a dick to the council of jedi. even early on, before he marries padme, he massacres a bunch of tusken raiders because he's in a bad mood. for a long time i thought hayden christensen's inability to act made the character unsympathetic. but really, i think they were just really lazy and assumed that the audience would see him as a good guy because he was ostensibly on the "right team."

batman and spiderman retell the same story every other year.
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seanimal wrote:
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Sammy Sofa wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:Watching that made me wonder if at some point in the future someone is going to go back and fix the crappy CGI in the prequels. CGI isn't so much a problem with modern film, it's bad CGI that is the problem. Of course, no amount of CGI improvement could fix the crappy story and bad acting of the prequels, but less obvious CG would help.


Just give up on it already. That would a flogging-worthy waste of money and resources.


What about a complete reboot of the prequels with a good script and removing the unnecessary clutter? The back story of Anakin/ Darth Vader would be compelling enough. Using actors with believable chemistry as Padme and younger Anakin would make that story so much more powerful. Plus, people aren't married to the prequels so the director could change whatever elements they want without getting too much backlash.


i'd like to see that era, if not those exact stories, remade with anakin as the protagonist. like, really invest in the story of him as a sympathetic character. the constant foreshadowing and winking at the audience about his turn to the dark side is super awful


they should have just settled on making Obi Wan the main character of the prequels and not splitting it between he an Anakin.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:21 am

jersey cubs fan wrote:
TruffleShuffle wrote:all of that would be awesome, but has a movie franchise ever just remade some of its films because the original ones were a tire fire?

and the worst part about anakin isn't that the foreshadowing was bad, but that they didn't even bother to make him sympathetic in the first place. he was pretty much a whiny douche the whole time with padme, and was a dick to the council of jedi. even early on, before he marries padme, he massacres a bunch of tusken raiders because he's in a bad mood. for a long time i thought hayden christensen's inability to act made the character unsympathetic. but really, i think they were just really lazy and assumed that the audience would see him as a good guy because he was ostensibly on the "right team."

batman and spiderman retell the same story every other year.


Is Darth Vader a scientist?

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Postby OleMissCub » Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:42 pm

seanimal wrote:i'd like to see that era, if not those exact stories, remade with anakin as the protagonist. like, really invest in the story of him as a sympathetic character. the constant foreshadowing and winking at the audience about his turn to the dark side is super awful


That amazing fanedit that I posted a while back, that condensed the prequel trilogy into a single film which used the Japanese audio and the editor's own subtitles, did a stunningly good job of making Anakin a sympathetic character. The Japanese audio also allows you to not be distracted by Christenson's wooden delivery.

I've started watching The Clone Wars cartoon series and they do a much, much better job with Anakin than the prequels. He's bold, reckless, a badass fighter, yet has a darkness to him, and most importantly isn't a whiny [expletive].
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anybody who has seen this movie more than twice should be banned from complaining about it.


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jersey cubs fan wrote:anybody who has seen this movie more than twice should be banned from complaining about it.


you don't know what you like and are very stupid


So you don't think it's possible to love something and think that there's area for improvement?

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Banedon wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:anybody who has seen this movie more than twice should be banned from complaining about it.


you don't know what you like and are very stupid


So you don't think it's possible to love something and think that there's area for improvement?

well no.

If you think there are areas of improvement you don't love the movie. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people saying they went to see it multiple times and really do not like the movie. That is dumb.
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Postby Banedon » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:48 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:well no.

If you think there are areas of improvement you don't love the movie. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people saying they went to see it multiple times and really do not like the movie. That is dumb.


Gotcha, yes...that is.

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OleMissCub wrote:
seanimal wrote:i'd like to see that era, if not those exact stories, remade with anakin as the protagonist. like, really invest in the story of him as a sympathetic character. the constant foreshadowing and winking at the audience about his turn to the dark side is super awful


That amazing fanedit that I posted a while back, that condensed the prequel trilogy into a single film which used the Japanese audio and the editor's own subtitles, did a stunningly good job of making Anakin a sympathetic character. The Japanese audio also allows you to not be distracted by Christenson's wooden delivery.


I can't wrap my head around anyone actually watching this. It's still going to look like garbage and everyone will still be acting like puppets. You might as well be reading a completely made up fanfic script.

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Sammy Sofa wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:
seanimal wrote:i'd like to see that era, if not those exact stories, remade with anakin as the protagonist. like, really invest in the story of him as a sympathetic character. the constant foreshadowing and winking at the audience about his turn to the dark side is super awful


That amazing fanedit that I posted a while back, that condensed the prequel trilogy into a single film which used the Japanese audio and the editor's own subtitles, did a stunningly good job of making Anakin a sympathetic character. The Japanese audio also allows you to not be distracted by Christenson's wooden delivery.


I can't wrap my head around anyone actually watching this. It's still going to look like garbage and everyone will still be acting like puppets. You might as well be reading a completely made up fanfic script.


The bad acting is almost unnoticeable when the audio is in a different language. The crappy delivery of crappy dialogue is the main problem with the acting in the prequels. Hayden, at least in ROTS (of which 85% of that fanedit is taken from), at least looks the part IMO and when he isn't opening his mouth can look brooding and sullen enough. The beauty of the Japanese audio is that we don't know if those Japanese voice actors are bad or not. Also, the CG in ROTS was at least tolerable.

And I don't care if I'm essentially reading a fanfic. It's a goddamned fanedit. That's the point. I was very entertained watching it and applaud the editor for how clever the fanedit was. For the first time I actually felt something for the character of Anakin.
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I weirdly admire your pointless dedication to these terrible, terrible movies.

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Sammy Sofa wrote:I weirdly admire your pointless dedication to these terrible, terrible movies.


it really is like trying to put a bow tie and makeup on an elephant turd isn't it?
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Postby treebird » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:19 am

jersey cubs fan wrote:anybody who has seen this movie more than twice should be banned from complaining about it.


you don't know what you like and are very stupid


was very sad to hear the spoonman fall into this trap.


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