TB_11 wrote:Exile on Waveland wrote:CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Exile on Waveland wrote:CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Derwood wrote:i love this "Deng and Gordon is too much for Kobe". It's not like Kobe is a top 3 player in the league or anything
Kobe is a top 3 player but the Lakers have limited bargaining power here. The Bulls need to realize that and also realize that Kobe is going to be 29 before next season and will have 11 years on him - he's no spring chicken. I'd be wary of a Kobe trade gutting the team and that's why I'm not completely interested. This isn't to deny that Kobe is a superb basketball player, this is to determine the best possible trade for the Bulls and have the best possible team.
I'm sure the Lakers will go along with whatever is the best possible trade for the Bulls.
Now, I know your point was the Bulls shouldn't gut their team for Kobe, which I agree with. However, no way are the Lakers going to take Gordon, Nocioni and the #9 for Kobe. He's one of the best players in the world and the Bulls are going to get him without giving up Deng, Thomas or Hinrich. That's just not reasonable. If Deng isn't in the deal, then it's going to be Thomas, Gordon/Hinrich and the #9 at least. The Lakers don't have to trade Kobe yet.
Oops, I guess I forgot to say that but I'd definitely do a TT/Gordon/#9 for Kobe.
I quoted you, which was probably unfair. It's just that to get a player of Kobe's caliber, the Bulls will have to give up something that hurts. It seems a lot of posters aren't willing to do so -- Nocioni is a backup, Gordon is replaced by Kobe. Deng or Thomas will be an absolute prerequisite, I'd think.
That's probably true (plus a sign and trade to make the salaries work), but there is a small possibility that Kobe holds out on the Lakers. In a situation like that Buss's best option would be to send Kobe to an Eastern Conference team that can send back young assets, albeit at 50 cents on the dollar. Kobe's holdout would put Paxson in a great bargaining position.
I'd agree with that. If Kobe does holdout, at some point, the Lakers will likely give in and trade him. If so, they'll get less than 10 cents on the dollar. Until that point, though, start the trade package with Deng/Thomas, Gordon and pick, at least.