2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby UMFan83 » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:09 pm

My question is what is the long term plan for the Bulls? I'm pretty sure this roster is getting overhauled over the next 2 years assuming we don't win a title this year. After this season you lose 13.4m from Noah, 2.8m from Hinrich, 2.2m from Brooks, and 1.1m from Moore. Moore is the only one I think is possible to come back from that group. Also, Pau has a 7.7m option for next year...he may pick it up if he doesn't think he can get more than that in FA, or he might opt out regardless for a chance to join a Spurs/Cavs/Clippers team at a much lower salary. Plus the cap explodes so we should have some ability to build a more "Hoiball" style team.

I hold out hope for the Bulls, and if things click they can definitely contend in the east, and my opinion isn't influenced much by the preseason and first 5 games (an opinion I had for awhile), but I don't think this team has enough shooters to compliment Hoiberg's offense (which admittedly I know only in extremely basic form) which will ultimately be its downfall.

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby David » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:36 pm

UMFan83 wrote:My question is what is the long term plan for the Bulls? I'm pretty sure this roster is getting overhauled over the next 2 years assuming we don't win a title this year. After this season you lose 13.4m from Noah, 2.8m from Hinrich, 2.2m from Brooks, and 1.1m from Moore. Moore is the only one I think is possible to come back from that group. Also, Pau has a 7.7m option for next year...he may pick it up if he doesn't think he can get more than that in FA, or he might opt out regardless for a chance to join a Spurs/Cavs/Clippers team at a much lower salary. Plus the cap explodes so we should have some ability to build a more "Hoiball" style team.

I hold out hope for the Bulls, and if things click they can definitely contend in the east, and my opinion isn't influenced much by the preseason and first 5 games (an opinion I had for awhile), but I don't think this team has enough shooters to compliment Hoiberg's offense (which admittedly I know only in extremely basic form) which will ultimately be its downfall.

I had more to add here but I have to go back to work.


For the record, and it IS only 5 games, the Bulls are currently shooting 39% as a team from 3. They have the 2nd most total attempts in the NBA (they are also one of only 3 teams to have played 5 games, but I can't find an attempts per game ranking and I'm not gonna do it manually).

EDIT - They are 8th in percentage of FG attempts from 3 point range.
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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby UMFan83 » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:39 pm

Interesting. That's promising then.
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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby Ryne Ween » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:43 pm

Is hoiball just shooting 3s?

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:52 pm

Is your dinner just a plate of thick onion gravy?

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby Ryne Ween » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:20 pm

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby SpongeWorthy » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:29 pm

Biggest problem with the team is that derrick rose is a guy now

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby Banedon » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:18 am

I refuse to have strong opinions in any fashion about this team until after Xmas.

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby UMFan83 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:43 pm

The last time Rose faced OKC before tonight (12/6/2010), his good friend Russ Westbrook was trying to make his first all star team while Rose was enroute to winning the MVP.
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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby David » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:05 pm

UMFan83 wrote:The last time Rose faced OKC before tonight (12/6/2010), his good friend Russ Westbrook was trying to make his first all star team while Rose was enroute to winning the MVP.


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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby David » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:08 pm

oh god these tnt guys are so bad

NOAH ISN'T THEIR MVP AND HE IS BAD AND SLOW AND CAN'T JUMP
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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby David » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:53 pm

PROVE ME WRONG, JOAKIM. PROVE ME WRONG!
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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby Ryne Ween » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:24 pm

Rose just dominated that last 5 minutes.

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby Ryne Ween » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:28 pm

I'm back on this bandwagon as long as rose takes over games like that.

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby David » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:30 pm

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby UMFan83 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:41 pm

That was a fun game
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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby bukie » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:58 pm

So what, now, we can't draw meaningful conclusions from one game?
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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby Ryne Ween » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:09 pm

bukie wrote:So what, now, we can't draw meaningful conclusions from one game?


It's like when Richard Dreyfus gives bill Murray a prescription to take a vacation from his problems that's what this game was go bulls go Derrick.

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby ChiCubsFan » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:44 pm

Loved Derricks mentality in that second half, and especially the 4thQ. I hope he continues to attack and use that midrange game.

The real question that needs to be asked is why the [expletive] did the Thunder switch every Pau screen down the stretch??
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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby Wilson A2000 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:50 am

If the Bulls do want to trade Rose, what could they expect to get for him?

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby Ryne Ween » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:45 pm

Wilson A2000 wrote:If the Bulls do want to trade Rose, what could they expect to get for him?


Old teams that are trying to compete don't trade their best player.

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Re: 2015-2016 Chicago Bulls season

Postby Wilson A2000 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:56 pm

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Wilson A2000 wrote:If the Bulls do want to trade Rose, what could they expect to get for him?


Old teams that are trying to compete don't trade their best player.


Well, the rumors are there. Jimmy and Rose are not far apart when I look at what they bring defensively and offensively. Rose's contract, Bulls brass tired of his act, Rose's loss of explosion to the rim, lack of willingness to work with Jimmy, and injury history are plenty of reasons that a trade is a good possibility.,


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