Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Can Heyward handle CF?

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby TruffleShuffle » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:01 pm

20M AAV for heyward is definitely on the low end of what i would expect. if it's 10/200 i'll be pretty annoyed that the cubs didn't sign him.

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby d_money » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:06 pm

Could they offer an opt out AND a NTC that kicks in after the opt out time period?

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby seanimal » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:07 pm

David wrote:
seanimal wrote:do the nationals have the wherewithal to dole out 20 mil per to heyward with where their payroll is already?

Trick question? Their payroll isn't high


lol whoops, i was looking at 2015
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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:08 pm

d_money wrote:Could they offer an opt out AND a NTC that kicks in after the opt out time period?

He'd have to be pretty close to his 10/5 rights by the time his opt out expired/he didn't exercise it and he decided to ride this current contract out anyways, so sure
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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:54 pm

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby Cubbie Swagger » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:39 pm

Wait... so Jim Bowden said that the Cubs are the front runners and that they are the team willing to go the furthest to sign Heyward? Did I miss that somewhere in this thread?
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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby ctcf » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:41 pm

I bet this goes down at like 3 am or something

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:42 pm

Cubbie Swagger wrote:Wait... so Jim Bowden said that the Cubs are the front runners and that they are the team willing to go the furthest to sign Heyward? Did I miss that somewhere in this thread?

Bowden says a lot of things, most of them are dumb, but I don't recall seeing this. Where/when did he say it?
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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby Cubbie Swagger » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:46 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
Cubbie Swagger wrote:Wait... so Jim Bowden said that the Cubs are the front runners and that they are the team willing to go the furthest to sign Heyward? Did I miss that somewhere in this thread?

Bowden says a lot of things, most of them are dumb, but I don't recall seeing this. Where/when did he say it?

In the video that pops up on this page: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14338 ... on-heyward

The one with Jim Bowden and Buster Olney.
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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby ctcf » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:52 pm

I'll never be able to take Bowden seriously again after the Ralph incident.

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby ctcf » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:59 pm

Jason Heyward's middle name is "Alias."

What the what

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby ConstableRabbit » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:09 pm

ctcf wrote:Jason Heyward's middle name is "Alias."

What the what

Doesn't Zobrist have a kid named Zion or did I just make that up?

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:20 pm

This calm before the storm is boring now. Yaaaawwn

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby ScrubMD » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:21 pm

I really want Heyward on this team, but that would make a Soler trade much more likely which would make me sad.

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:26 pm

ScrubMD wrote:I really want Heyward on this team, but that would make a Soler trade much more likely which would make me sad.

I don't get why those two things need to be linked
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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby David » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:27 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
ScrubMD wrote:I really want Heyward on this team, but that would make a Soler trade much more likely which would make me sad.

I don't get why those two things need to be linked


they don't, but if you go by the guy who has had the most info this winter, they very well might be
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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby Gilby » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:29 pm

Now I'd be really surprised if Soler gets dealt, even if we sign Heyward. I doubt Theo wants to move him for anything less than a Salazar type talent, and after the haul the Braves just got, teams are going to want a lot more than Soler for their stud pitchers.

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:25 pm

David wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
ScrubMD wrote:I really want Heyward on this team, but that would make a Soler trade much more likely which would make me sad.

I don't get why those two things need to be linked


they don't, but if you go by the guy who has had the most info this winter, they very well might be

Yeah I know they seem to be linked, I just don't get it as to how it makes us a better team next year by signing Heyward and trading Soler. After the Miller trade I don't see us getting a Carrasco type value for Soler straight up and we still have a huge hole in CF/RF if Soler is traded.
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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby The Logan » Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:04 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
David wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
ScrubMD wrote:I really want Heyward on this team, but that would make a Soler trade much more likely which would make me sad.

I don't get why those two things need to be linked


they don't, but if you go by the guy who has had the most info this winter, they very well might be

Yeah I know they seem to be linked, I just don't get it as to how it makes us a better team next year by signing Heyward and trading Soler. After the Miller trade I don't see us getting a Carrasco type value for Soler straight up and we still have a huge hole in CF/RF if Soler is traded.


Just because Dave Stewart is a [expletive] lummox doesn't mean everyone else is
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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby ctcf » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:01 am

Is this really gonna kill a second straight day of work for me? FFS

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby Little Slide Rooter » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:09 am

The Logan wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
David wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
ScrubMD wrote:I really want Heyward on this team, but that would make a Soler trade much more likely which would make me sad.

I don't get why those two things need to be linked


they don't, but if you go by the guy who has had the most info this winter, they very well might be

Yeah I know they seem to be linked, I just don't get it as to how it makes us a better team next year by signing Heyward and trading Soler. After the Miller trade I don't see us getting a Carrasco type value for Soler straight up and we still have a huge hole in CF/RF if Soler is traded.


Just because Dave Stewart is a [expletive] lummox doesn't mean everyone else is


It's not unlike the Samrdzjia trade. Nobody was suckered into anything. The knew that 28 other teams would want to get in on Miller, and with no urgency to deal on the sellers end, talks could have gone into the summer and beyond. With thiat in mind, they didn't bother waiting to blow everybody else out of the water, they just bought the pool.

And you really can't base market value on such a situation.

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby Cubbie Swagger » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:09 am

I like how we all burned ourselves out to the point that now we're just gonna sit here and wait till we find out who signs him.
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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:33 am

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Re: Jason Heyward - 2016 CF?

Postby SouthSideRyan » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:46 am

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Between paying Pujols until the day he dies and Hamilton some $75MM to play for a division rival, you'd think they'd be counting their pennies for Trout's inevitable, epic pay day.


They've got $40m from Weaver and Wilson coming off the books after this year, and then Hamilton's $26m after that. Of course, that's when Trout's first pay kicks in (going from $20 to $34m), but they aren't in terrible shape. Plus, Trout and Heyward in the same outfield might let them play with 5 infielders the whole game.


And every team is printing money. The Angels aren't going to be hurting as long as Moreno is fine not making absurd profits.
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