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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:10 pm

David wrote:btw I don't look back all that fondly on 2004...aside from maybe the Nomar trade day, the Sosa/Alou back to back game and the Walker slide. but overall that season sucked. i remember it as a lot of waiting for prior to come back and actually look like prior, the cardinals getting off to an insurmountable lead, and then the collapse in the last 2-3 weeks.


Yeah, '04 ranks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind '03, '07, '08 and last year.
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby davell » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:44 pm

I definitely was more excited for 2004 than any other season of my lifetime(until now), heading into it. That changed over the course of the season though, until we got Nomar. Then it was just painful as [expletive] to watch the implosion.
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby Duke Silver » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:21 pm

David wrote:btw I don't look back all that fondly on 2004...aside from maybe the Nomar trade day, the Sosa/Alou back to back game and the Walker slide. but overall that season sucked. i remember it as a lot of waiting for prior to come back and actually look like prior, the cardinals getting off to an insurmountable lead, and then the collapse in the last 2-3 weeks.


Yeah, 2004 was the worst season for me as a fan. It was mainly due to the Cardinals being so good, though. I remember going into the season being so excited about the Cubs. I thought we would be the greatest baseball team ever. And things just progressively got worse as the season went along. I was so furious about how that season played out. I felt for the longest time that it was a complete fluke that we were trailing the Cardinals and that we would eventually overcome the Cardinals. I was so angry about the Cardinals having a number of guys having random career years. Obviously, Carpenter becoming a revelation was the worst news for us Cub fans. But, Tony Womack, a year after looking like he was toast, having a career year at 34 was the worst for me. That just made me irate. I was fuming every time I heard his name.

I was also in college at the time, and my two best friends were big Cardinals fans. And by the time we got back to school in the fall, it was already over. And I just couldn't deal with them being so joyous. I still felt as if we were the better team and that it was just unfair and fluky. Granted, at the time, I wasn't as smart of a baseball fan. And it should have been pretty obvious that a team with Pujols, Rolen, and Edmonds, all in their primes, didn't need much luck to be a good squad. But, at the time, the whole Womack and Carpenter [expletive] made me sick.

By August I was able to kind of just write the whole Cardinals-as-juggernauts thing off. We have Nomar. We'll still get the Wild Card. Everything will be fine. Wrong. Just a horrible year of baseball. It was probably made worse by spending so much time with two diehard Cardinal fans, being around them cheering and having parties to celebrate their success on into the playoffs. That [expletive] was the worst.

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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby The Logan » Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:20 pm

That Prior game at the end of 2004 was infuriating to watch.

9.0 IP 3 H 1 ER 16 K 1 BB

Cubs lose 1-0 in extras.
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby Derwood » Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:27 pm

The Logan wrote:That Prior game at the end of 2004 was infuriating to watch.

9.0 IP 3 H 1 ER 16 K 1 BB

Cubs lose 1-0 in extras.

And then he died

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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby ConstableRabbit » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:42 pm

Sammy making the catch of his life to save the game before the pen (Hawkins?) blew it. Ugh.
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby Brian » Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:40 pm

The Logan wrote:That Prior game at the end of 2004 was infuriating to watch.

9.0 IP 3 H 1 ER 16 K 1 BB

Cubs lose 1-0 in extras.


I remember following that game and watching his ERA tick down hoping it would get below 4.00.
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby Sammy's Boombox » Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:42 pm

The Logan wrote:That Prior game at the end of 2004 was infuriating to watch.

9.0 IP 3 H 1 ER 16 K 1 BB

Cubs lose 1-0 in extras.


2-1. Sammy homered. Austin Kearns homered in the 7th or 8th I believe off the foul pole. Then some really stupid stuff happened in the (I think) 12th. I was in the left field bleachers.
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Postby Cubbie Swagger » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:41 pm

I believe that I have legitimate PTSD from the Bartman thing. I was SO sure that that was the year.
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby CubinNY » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:20 pm

Cubbie Swagger wrote:I believe that I have legitimate PTSD from the Bartman thing. I was SO sure that that was the year.

The "Bartman" thing isn't a thing. Seek help.

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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby UMFan83 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:26 pm

Sammy's Boombox wrote:
The Logan wrote:That Prior game at the end of 2004 was infuriating to watch.

9.0 IP 3 H 1 ER 16 K 1 BB

Cubs lose 1-0 in extras.


2-1. Sammy homered. Austin Kearns homered in the 7th or 8th I believe off the foul pole. Then some really stupid stuff happened in the (I think) 12th. I was in the left field bleachers.


I went to too many games down the stretch that season, so I might be mixing the games together but didn't Sammy just miss a grand slam by inches in that game?

Edit: Never mind, that was the almost as infuriating, less talked about game before. Cubs had a 2-1 lead with 2 outs in the 9th and no one on. After a triple, Kearns doubled home the tying run then hit a 2 run HR in the 12th.

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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby bcl412 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:17 pm

I wasn't that bothered by the collapse in 2004 basically because i was a dumb high school kid who didn't understand the crapshoot nature of baseball playoffs and thought there was no way we were winning the world series anyways so i didn't really care. Plus, i remember that team as not being that likable though I'm sure a good chunk of that was meatball stuff that i wouldn't care as much about now.

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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby treebird » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:53 pm

bcl412 wrote:I wasn't that bothered by the collapse in 2004 basically because i was a dumb high school kid who didn't understand the crapshoot nature of baseball playoffs and thought there was no way we were winning the world series anyways so i didn't really care. Plus, i remember that team as not being that likable though I'm sure a good chunk of that was meatball stuff that i wouldn't care as much about now.


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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby Cubbie Swagger » Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:05 am

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Cubbie Swagger wrote:I believe that I have legitimate PTSD from the Bartman thing. I was SO sure that that was the year.

The "Bartman" thing isn't a thing. Seek help.

How is it not a thing? It clearly happened.

I had just turned 14 that summer, and that incident shattered my world. When I watch it now as an adult, it is difficult. We were just a few outs away from the World Series. That was a thing. Also kind of spooky to watch Prior throw 170 pitches or whatever that night, knowing what we know now.
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby The Logan » Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:19 am

Bartman was no different than any other time in history a fan has reached for a foul ball. This was just in a pressure situation so it's exacerbated to the nth degree. He did the same thing any of us would've done, but it was him and not us so he's the "bad guy". If Alou hadn't reacted the way he did, it wouldn't be a thing. It'd just be another foul ball in the stands that a player was unable to get to. Moving on.

Now, Alex Gonzalez? That was a thing. That was a very much a thing. THAT killed that game, not a stupid fan reaching for a foul ball like all the others around him.
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby David » Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:25 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:
David wrote:btw I don't look back all that fondly on 2004...aside from maybe the Nomar trade day, the Sosa/Alou back to back game and the Walker slide. but overall that season sucked. i remember it as a lot of waiting for prior to come back and actually look like prior, the cardinals getting off to an insurmountable lead, and then the collapse in the last 2-3 weeks.


Yeah, '04 ranks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind '03, '07, '08 and last year.


Just for fun as I reread this post when the page loaded

For my top 5 Cubs seasons it's:

2015 >>>>>> 2008 >> 2003 >>>>> 2007 >>>>>>>>>1998
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:03 pm

I'm kinda stunned that Cubbie Swagger isn't even 30. He sounds so much like a cranky old Cubs fan.
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby UMFan83 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:39 pm

David wrote:
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David wrote:btw I don't look back all that fondly on 2004...aside from maybe the Nomar trade day, the Sosa/Alou back to back game and the Walker slide. but overall that season sucked. i remember it as a lot of waiting for prior to come back and actually look like prior, the cardinals getting off to an insurmountable lead, and then the collapse in the last 2-3 weeks.


Yeah, '04 ranks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind '03, '07, '08 and last year.


Just for fun as I reread this post when the page loaded

For my top 5 Cubs seasons it's:

2015 >>>>>> 2008 >> 2003 >>>>> 2007 >>>>>>>>>1998


I have to go 2015-2003-1998-2008-2007. I hate putting 2008 so low because it was a super fun season but can't beat the seasons we won a playoff series and 1998 always has a place in my heart because it was the first Cubs playoff team I followed (only sort of remember 89) and the Sammy thing had me absolutely obsessed on a daily basis.
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby David » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:55 pm

the regular season all out dominance of 08 overshadows the mostly boring/mediocre regular season (at least until september) + playoff wins in 03 for me. 2015 has both on the backs of a core of great young players so that's why it's a clear #1.
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby David » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:56 pm

wait how the hell do you have 1998 ahead of 08? wtf?

i mean yeah i know, sammy and kerry, but the rest of that team was fairly scrubtastic
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby UMFan83 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:27 pm

David wrote:wait how the hell do you have 1998 ahead of 08? wtf?

i mean yeah i know, sammy and kerry, but the rest of that team was fairly scrubtastic


Like I said, because I was 15 in 1998 it has a different emotional pull on me and it was the first playoff team I followed. I was too dumb to know it was a fluke team pieced together with mostly spare points.

2003-1998-2008 are nearly interchangeable to me so while 2008 is 4th it's really like 2c
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:36 pm

UMFan83 wrote:
David wrote:wait how the hell do you have 1998 ahead of 08? wtf?

i mean yeah i know, sammy and kerry, but the rest of that team was fairly scrubtastic


Like I said, because I was 15 in 1998 it has a different emotional pull on me and it was the first playoff team I followed. I was too dumb to know it was a fluke team pieced together with mostly spare points.

2003-1998-2008 are nearly interchangeable to me so while 2008 is 4th it's really like 2c


'98 is just one of my favorite years just in terms of being an awesome baseball year. Plus I was only 19 that year, so a 90 win team with Sammy and this Kerry Wood kid would of course be kicking ass for the foreseeable future.
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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby Andy » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:21 pm

I was 21 in 08 so that team has a big hold on me. I still have it right with last year even as fun as it was.

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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

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Sammy's Boombox wrote:
The Logan wrote:That Prior game at the end of 2004 was infuriating to watch.

9.0 IP 3 H 1 ER 16 K 1 BB

Cubs lose 1-0 in extras.


2-1. Sammy homered. Austin Kearns homered in the 7th or 8th I believe off the foul pole. Then some really stupid stuff happened in the (I think) 12th. I was in the left field bleachers.


I went to too many games down the stretch that season, so I might be mixing the games together but didn't Sammy just miss a grand slam by inches in that game?

Edit: Never mind, that was the almost as infuriating, less talked about game before. Cubs had a 2-1 lead with 2 outs in the 9th and no one on. After a triple, Kearns doubled home the tying run then hit a 2 run HR in the 12th.

[expletive] only good week of that loser's life

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Re: Jason Heyward to CUBS!!!

Postby bhogg » Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:32 pm

2004 team was just hard to watch by the end of the year. I grew to greatly dislike them.

My favorite teams:

1. 1989- first trip to Wrigley in August of 89. That team was expected to do nothing and was fun all year long. One of the last years when Harry was Harry
2. 2015- really enjoyed this past year with my son.
3. 2008- first cubs team in my older years that I expected to win every single day.
4. 2003- I bought in. I've never forgiven Alou for being a douchnozzle in game 6
5. 1984- My earliest Cub memories are from this team. I was 7 years old and watched almost every game with my Mom. Great memories.
6. 2007- fkn Lou!
7. 1998- Sandberg was my favorite player and when he retired in 1996, I really didn't pay much attention the next year. . . but then, Sammy!
8. 1995- team that hung onto slim play off hopes
9. 2001- surprising team -- lots of likeable characters -- Sammy was incredible.
10. 1985 - this team was supposed to be the team to break the curse. I think at one time they were 20 somthing games over .500 and cruising. Then every starting pitcher found themselves on the DL. a ridiculous losing streak and freakish injuries buried them and ownership / management panicked. . . . .


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