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Postby UMFan83 » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:39 pm

Please give us at least 2 very good seasons before falling off a cliff.
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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby yanrslatr » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:40 pm

Seems more likely Castro gone since Maddon loves to [expletive] with lineups and Javy is more versatile

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Re: Zobrist?

Postby davell » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:40 pm

This breaks 30 seconds after Sahadev posts a quote from Theo saying he's not super confident we get something done at the meetings.

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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby Outshined_One » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:40 pm

Waiting for the other shoe to drop on the Castro trade. That's a big part of whether or not I'm a fan of this deal.

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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby Post Count Padder » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:41 pm

Wow. Love it. And love it more at that price.
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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

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jesus [expletive] christ i hate that you guys have a good front office now

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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby yanrslatr » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:42 pm

Since it's inevitable, would love to see Castro traded to a team I don't hate.

Oh and sign Heyward.

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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby weis21 » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:42 pm

I should have trimmed back a million AAV from my 4/64 projection instead of adding a million from the 4/60 that I originally threw out there. 4/56 (taken as a whole) could be worth every penny, honestly.

Still sad to see Castro go, but it seems inevitable now. I'll have to change my sig :(
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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:42 pm

So the new market inefficiency is getting really old?
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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby ConstableRabbit » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:43 pm

Gotta love that price!
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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby Bryant's Disco Ball » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:43 pm

Outshined_One wrote:Waiting for the other shoe to drop on the Castro trade. That's a big part of whether or not I'm a fan of this deal.


Not to tell you how to feel or think, but [expletive] the other shoe.

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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby ctcf » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:43 pm

I'm.... really happy with that price?

What the hell just happened.

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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby XZero77 » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:44 pm

If we give Zobrist 14MM per over four years and then cry poor on Heyward, I am going to be something a lot less than thrilled. That is unless Heyward signs for something truly outrageous.

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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby yanrslatr » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:44 pm

ctcf wrote:I'm.... really happy with that price?

What the hell just happened.


Rosenthal failed to mention that Joe is also buying him a shot and a beer, so

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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

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Outshined_One wrote:Waiting for the other shoe to drop on the Castro trade. That's a big part of whether or not I'm a fan of this deal.


Not to tell you how to feel or think, but [expletive] the other shoe.


Typed that one out before I saw the years and money.

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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby Andy » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:44 pm

4/56 strikes me as way too damn much for Zobrist. Maybe I'm overly attached to Castro but given their ages are we really looking at THAT huge a difference between their next 4 years?

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Re: Zobrist?

Postby Duke Silver » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:45 pm

rawaction wrote:It would be extremely odd (and honestly, somewhat of a letdown from a personal standpoint) to go from Castro, Soler and/or Baez to Zobrist, Heyward and/or random CF. I understand, still have Rizzo, Bryant, Russell and Schwarber....but jettisoning young, cheap, under long-term control talent to pay older guys for a potential shorter term (if Heyward has an opt out, this is possible), doesn't seem like something a great front office should do. And I kinda feel that they won't do that (trade Castro, then trade Soler and sign Heyward) so I'm not a fan of this potential move for if nothing else but that reason.


Well, the fact that we would still have Rizzo, Bryant, Russell and Schwarber is kinda big in this scenario. If we trade Castro and Soler, then they are simply trading the two worst guys of our "core," depending on if you consider Javy a part of the core. They aren't trading away the cheap, young stars. In fact, Starlin isn't really any of those things. His salary isn't really cheap anymore. It's not prohibitive or expensive really. But, he isn't pre-arb, like those other guys. And he is what he is now. He's just a guy that happens to be kinda young and under contract for awhile.

Trading a guy like Soler might bite us. But, he's like our fourth or fifth best pre-arb guy, anyway. And he hasn't done anything to prove that he is anywhere near the level of the guys we are actually keeping.

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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby yanrslatr » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:45 pm

Andy wrote:4/56 strikes me as way too damn much for Zobrist. Maybe I'm overly attached to Castro but given their ages are we really looking at THAT huge a difference between their next 4 years?


i really like castro, but you're all alone out here.

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Re: Rosenthal: Zobrist to Cubs

Postby rawaction » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:45 pm

XZero77 wrote:If we give Zobrist 14MM per over four years and then cry poor on Heyward, I am going to be something a lot less than thrilled. That is unless Heyward signs for something truly outrageous.


Still not worth it. Unless someone signs Heyward for 14M more per year than the Cubs should pay (thinking 38-40Mil aav), then I'd still take 1 Heyward over Zobrist and whoever else they get.


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