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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby KingCubsFan » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:37 am

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Bunts Lick Butts wrote:So conflicted. On one hand, I dont want the Reds to get anything of value back. But on the other hand, if all they got back was trash, Im going to wish it was our trash.

yeah if they didn't even have to part with Jose DeLeon, i'm prepared to be a little bit rankled about this trade

I'm sure the Reds had no interest in trading him within the division, so there's no use in getting upset.

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby David » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:37 am

KingCubsFan wrote:
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Bunts Lick Butts wrote:So conflicted. On one hand, I dont want the Reds to get anything of value back. But on the other hand, if all they got back was trash, Im going to wish it was our trash.

yeah if they didn't even have to part with Jose DeLeon, i'm prepared to be a little bit rankled about this trade

I'm sure the Reds had no interest in trading him within the division, so there's no use in getting upset.


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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby SouthSideRyan » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:46 am

I know next to nothing about their new GM other than that he appears to be about as much a nepotism hire as you'll find, but in a season where they don't look to be trying to win games, why should they care if Chapman is in their division? He'll be a FA by time they try again.
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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby KingCubsFan » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:49 am

SouthSideRyan wrote:I know next to nothing about their new GM other than that he appears to be about as much a nepotism hire as you'll find, but in a season where they don't look to be trying to win games, why should they care if Chapman is in their division? He'll be a FA by time they try again.

I don't disagree with you. But it seems like most teams still get hung up on it.

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby David » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:51 am

SouthSideRyan wrote:I know next to nothing about their new GM other than that he appears to be about as much a nepotism hire as you'll find, but in a season where they don't look to be trying to win games, why should they care if Chapman is in their division? He'll be a FA by time they try again.


true, though even with the free agency looming, him being on a team (particularly a successful one) probably increases the likelihood to some extent that he is on that team going forward.
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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

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KingCubsFan wrote:
SouthSideRyan wrote:I know next to nothing about their new GM other than that he appears to be about as much a nepotism hire as you'll find, but in a season where they don't look to be trying to win games, why should they care if Chapman is in their division? He'll be a FA by time they try again.

I don't disagree with you. But it seems like most teams still get hung up on it.


has any GM ever actually said that? man, i'd be furious if the cubs turned down a better offer because the potential trade partner was in the division.

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby David » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:05 am

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KingCubsFan wrote:
SouthSideRyan wrote:I know next to nothing about their new GM other than that he appears to be about as much a nepotism hire as you'll find, but in a season where they don't look to be trying to win games, why should they care if Chapman is in their division? He'll be a FA by time they try again.

I don't disagree with you. But it seems like most teams still get hung up on it.


has any GM ever actually said that? man, i'd be furious if the cubs turned down a better offer because the potential trade partner was in the division.


i mean, with the unbalanced schedule (plus actually needing to win the division to get into the playoffs w/out a play-in game), it matters. i'm not sure to what extent, but if offers are reasonably close, i'd rather deal a good player outside of the division.
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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby Bunts Lick Butts » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:55 am

with the way the wild card is, they're just as likely to be competing outside the division as in
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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby sneakypower » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:59 am

you still have to play those 19 intradivisional games, so i could see that at least being a tiebreaker, wanting to avoid a star player you're losing if at all possible
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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby BigbadB » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:31 pm

Didn't stop the Dodgers from dealing Kemp to the Padres last year.

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby The Logan » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:33 pm

Well Kemp is hot garbage.
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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby David » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:39 pm

The Logan wrote:Well Kemp is hot garbage.


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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby JennieGarthAlgar » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:40 pm

BigbadB wrote:Didn't stop the Dodgers from dealing Kemp to the Padres last year.


No. No, it did not. You are correct.

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby The Logan » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:51 pm

Kemp to the Padres made the Dodgers better and the Padres worse than the previous year. That's how bad Kemp is.
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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby Proven Veteran » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:17 pm

David wrote:https://twitter.com/m_sheldon/status/673956692258897920



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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby Proven Veteran » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:38 pm

David wrote:https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/673963104313679872

yikes



Someone heard what they were getting in exchange and made a better offer.

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby shnsajax » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:49 pm

It would be fun to just see this blowing up in the Dodgers face.
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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:45 pm

Good news - my Heyward and Chapman headlined dream is still a possibility.

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby ctcf » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:49 pm

Whoops. [expletive] Aroldis, then.

Police report: Aroldis Chapman fired gunshots, 'choked' girlfriend in domestic incident

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:57 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:Good news - my Heyward and Chapman headlined dream is still a possibility.


Hope not after the latest news. Ugh.

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby Banedon » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:58 pm

Wonder if the Dodgers are trying to back out of the trade now.

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby ctcf » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:04 pm

Banedon wrote:Wonder if the Dodgers are trying to back out of the trade now.


I mean, one would hope they would just on moral grounds, but this is a business. Being gross and objective about this, it significantly alters his value. He is coming on a one year deal and now facing a quite possible suspension.

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Re: Chapman to Dodgers

Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:04 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:Good news - my Heyward and Chapman headlined dream is still a possibility.


Hope not after the latest news. Ugh.


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