Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

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Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby tfarks » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:16 am

Wow. Reds are gonna lose a whole lot of games.
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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby SouthSideRyan » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:21 am

For Montas, Johnson, and Thompson.

They're gonna put Lawrie at 2b? Yipes
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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby sneakypower » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:25 am

...does Friedman consummate these deals with rohypnol? like, is the paperwork being submitted to league offices with squiggly-ass signatures?
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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

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The Reds return is hilariously bad.

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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:35 am

The Reds and Brewers are going to be really bad this year
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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby Tryptamine » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:39 am

Congratulations Cincy, you now have a CF and a 2B who could steal 50+ bases but unfortunately neither of them can hit.

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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby Cubfanintheknow » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:43 am

Tryptamine wrote:Congratulations Cincy, you now have a CF and a 2B who could steal 50+ bases but unfortunately neither of them can hit.
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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby tfarks » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:45 am

Votto deserves another team to play for
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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby Tim » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:53 am

Did they really want Peraza so much? Why not just take the package the Sox sent to the Dodgers?
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Postby UMFan83 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:55 am

tfarks wrote:Votto deserves another team to play for


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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby Tryptamine » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:55 am

Tim wrote:Did they really want Peraza so much? Why not just take the package the Sox sent to the Dodgers?


The package the Dodgers got is so much better. Why were the Dodgers even involved unless the Reds absolutely had to have Peraza? If that's the case they're an even more laughable organization than I thought.

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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby Post Count Padder » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:56 am

Tim wrote:Did they really want Peraza so much? Why not just take the package the Sox sent to the Dodgers?

Seriously. Sox and Dodgers come out pretty well in this trade. Reds deal their biggest non-abusive closer trade piece and the return for them is pretty meh.
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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby Tedward » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:06 pm

Starting to wonder if LA is trying to amass enough chess pieces to make a run at Fernandez. They certainly have a few intriguing pitching prospects

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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby rocket » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:06 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:This thread is fun:

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthre ... White-Sox/


i feel kinda bad for them
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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby CubinNY » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:12 pm

sneakypower wrote:...does Friedman consummate these deals with rohypnol? like, is the paperwork being submitted to league offices with squiggly-ass signatures?

That's funny

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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby sweetpeteman » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:14 pm

Time to talk to the Reds about... uh, crap. Never mind.

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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby Post Count Padder » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:18 pm

Tedward wrote:Starting to wonder if LA is trying to amass enough chess pieces to make a run at Fernandez. They certainly have a few intriguing pitching prospects

That's what the buzz is now among the beat writers and national guys. They have the pieces to make it happen and also could feel they have to given the additions to the Giants and Dbacks/losing out on Grienke and Price.
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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby Careless » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:19 pm

rocket wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:This thread is fun:

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthre ... White-Sox/


i feel kinda bad for them

I'm laughing at that thread, but I'll feel bad about it later.
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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby Tryptamine » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:19 pm

Tedward wrote:Starting to wonder if LA is trying to amass enough chess pieces to make a run at Fernandez. They certainly have a few intriguing pitching prospects


They now have 6 pitchers who will be MLB ready in 2016 but no rotation spots for them. Urias,De Leon,Cotton,Anderson,Lee and Montas. That is an enormous amount of value sitting in AAA/AA waiting for a space to open.

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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby UMFan83 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:25 pm

Tryptamine wrote:
Tedward wrote:Starting to wonder if LA is trying to amass enough chess pieces to make a run at Fernandez. They certainly have a few intriguing pitching prospects


They now have 6 pitchers who will be MLB ready in 2016 but no rotation spots for them. Urias,De Leon,Cotton,Anderson,Lee and Montas. That is an enormous amount of value sitting in AAA/AA waiting for a space to open.


Good observation. That has to be what's going on here.
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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby Banedon » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:27 pm

tfarks wrote:Votto deserves another team to play for


Careful, the Cardinals might be listening.

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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:57 pm

Tryptamine wrote:
Tedward wrote:Starting to wonder if LA is trying to amass enough chess pieces to make a run at Fernandez. They certainly have a few intriguing pitching prospects


They now have 6 pitchers who will be MLB ready in 2016 but no rotation spots for them. Urias,De Leon,Cotton,Anderson,Lee and Montas. That is an enormous amount of value sitting in AAA/AA waiting for a space to open.



Just to play devil's advocate, Montas is a reliever, Urias needs at least a half season at AAA, Lee does not seem to be valued or considered much at all by the front office, and Anderson has a rotation spot for at least half a season with McCarthy not healthy. On top of that, Kershaw is really the only IP stalwart in that rotation, so they're a team that needs rotation depth more than the average team anyway with Wood/Ryu/McCarthy/Anderson being heavily featured.

Not that they won't make a move from that depth, but when you consider Anderson, Urias, and Montas have defined roles that are not 6th/7th/8th starter, I don't know that they truly have a logjam that needs fixed.

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Re: Todd Frazier to White Sox in three team deal

Postby ctcf » Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:00 pm

Indians were in on Frazier and just saw him go to a division rival. Here's hoping this forces them to up their offer for Soler.


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