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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:13 pm

CubColtPacer wrote:
RammyFanny wrote:Goldstein's mock (with Vitters going 2)
While the Cubs would love to take Wieters, he's yet another Boras client. The Cubs have no problem with Boras, nor with his expected bonus demands, but Major League Baseball does. With the Cubs ownership situation in limbo, the Cubs have been instructed by MLB to adhere strictly to the slot system, with no well-over slot bonuses, and certainly no big league deal -- and Wieters will require both. Rumors that the Cubs would go the super-cheap option with Virginia first baseman Sean Doolittle are more than a little silly, but they've been bearing down hard on Indiana high school righty Jarrod Parker of late, with GM Jim Hendry and special assistant Gary Hughes in attendance at multiple Parker outings in May.


So it's MLB that is telling the Cubs what they can do? That's an interesting development.


No excuse for not going over slot if the talent is worthy if the request is not coming from ownership.

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Postby cuubs4life » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:14 pm

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CubColtPacer wrote:
RammyFanny wrote:Goldstein's mock (with Vitters going 2)
While the Cubs would love to take Wieters, he's yet another Boras client. The Cubs have no problem with Boras, nor with his expected bonus demands, but Major League Baseball does. With the Cubs ownership situation in limbo, the Cubs have been instructed by MLB to adhere strictly to the slot system, with no well-over slot bonuses, and certainly no big league deal -- and Wieters will require both. Rumors that the Cubs would go the super-cheap option with Virginia first baseman Sean Doolittle are more than a little silly, but they've been bearing down hard on Indiana high school righty Jarrod Parker of late, with GM Jim Hendry and special assistant Gary Hughes in attendance at multiple Parker outings in May.


So it's MLB that is telling the Cubs what they can do? That's an interesting development.


No excuse for not going over slot if the talent is worthy if the request is not coming from ownership.


Thats how I feel as well.

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Postby davearm » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:52 pm

With the Cubs ownership situation in limbo, the Cubs have been instructed by MLB to adhere strictly to the slot system, with no well-over slot bonuses, and certainly no big league deal -- and Wieters will require both

The notion that MLB would instruct (more like ask, pretty please) the Cubs to adhere strictly to the slot system is totally understandable.

The notion that MLB's directive or whatever would have anything to do with the Cubs' ownership situation is totally silly (especially the part about no big league deal).

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Postby Locke's Eye Scar » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:58 pm

He has very good mechanics, and a very smooth, free and easy release. He is a very low risk to have an injury


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Postby CubColtPacer » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:04 pm

davearm wrote:
With the Cubs ownership situation in limbo, the Cubs have been instructed by MLB to adhere strictly to the slot system, with no well-over slot bonuses, and certainly no big league deal -- and Wieters will require both

The notion that MLB would instruct (more like ask, pretty please) the Cubs to adhere strictly to the slot system is totally understandable.

The notion that MLB's directive or whatever would have anything to do with the Cubs' ownership situation is totally silly (especially the part about no big league deal).


That's what I found confusing-those two things shouldn't go together.

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Postby Bunts Lick Butts » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:38 pm

I would flip the middle finger to MLB in record time.

Seriously, don't draft the player you want because he wants a lot of money? F off.
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Postby Mephistopheles » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:39 pm

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/139653.html


Kansas City has narrowed it down to four guys: Jarrod Parker, Mike Moustakas, Devin Mesoraco and Josh Vitters.

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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:39 pm

Fall all the way to 48, Porcello!

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Postby Mephistopheles » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:40 pm

No chance in hell the Yankees would pass on another Seton Hall Prep guy.

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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:57 pm

I just have a terrible feeling about this draft, especially considering how excited I was to get that #3 pick
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Postby TruffleShuffle » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:30 pm

IMB! wrote:I would flip the middle finger to MLB in record time.

Seriously, don't draft the player you want because he wants a lot of money? F off.


they do this because the MLBPA won't come after them for trying to hold down the bonuses of amateur players. Meanwhile draft bonuses are probably about 5% of an average team's annual expenditures, but are a far more important part of a team's future. If MLB tried to do this with free agency, they'd be brought up on collusion charges so fast they wouldn't know what hit them.

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Postby NCCubFan » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:00 am

CubColtPacer wrote:
RammyFanny wrote:Goldstein's mock (with Vitters going 2)
While the Cubs would love to take Wieters, he's yet another Boras client. The Cubs have no problem with Boras, nor with his expected bonus demands, but Major League Baseball does. With the Cubs ownership situation in limbo, the Cubs have been instructed by MLB to adhere strictly to the slot system, with no well-over slot bonuses, and certainly no big league deal -- and Wieters will require both. Rumors that the Cubs would go the super-cheap option with Virginia first baseman Sean Doolittle are more than a little silly, but they've been bearing down hard on Indiana high school righty Jarrod Parker of late, with GM Jim Hendry and special assistant Gary Hughes in attendance at multiple Parker outings in May.


So it's MLB that is telling the Cubs what they can do? That's an interesting development.
MLB doesn't have the authority to insist on that, since there's no clause in the CBA. All they can do is recommend; they have no power to enforce slot money.
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Postby shnsajax » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:28 am

cuubs4life wrote:
TruffleShuffle wrote:over/under on how soon parker needs arm surgery after we draft him? i'm going with two years.


I dont think so. He has very good mechanics, and a very smooth, free and easy release. He is a very low risk to have an injury.


Great mechanics means 27 minutes after signing his contract with the Cubs, the concrete stairs he is walking down crack causing him to fall on top of Felix Pie breaking Pie's leg while Parker dislocates his throwing shoulder.
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