Best upside from last draft?

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Best upside from last draft?

Postby KingKongvs.Godzilla » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:45 am

Besides Golden, Wells, and Simpson is there anyone from this year's draft with intriguing upside?

I don't buy Golden and don't know too much about Wells. He seems like a nice upside arm. Simpson has a little Roy Oswalt in him, and I like the pick.

Purke or Rendon ftw in 2011.
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Re: Best upside from last draft?

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:41 am

Matt Szczur and Austin Reed stand out.

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Re: Best upside from last draft?

Postby BeerHere » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:48 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Matt Szczur and Austin Reed stand out.


Is there any indication what Szczur will do after the football season?

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Re: Best upside from last draft?

Postby KingKongvs.Godzilla » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:09 am

What's the story on Reed?

I have a good feeling about Szczur. His toolset sounds Carl Crawford-esque.
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Re: Best upside from last draft?

Postby sneakypower » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:05 pm

WeGotWood98 wrote:Simpson has a little Roy Oswalt in him...

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Re: Best upside from last draft?

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:53 pm

WeGotWood98 wrote:What's the story on Reed?

I have a good feeling about Szczur. His toolset sounds Carl Crawford-esque.


I know he's got the prototypical big pitcher's body, throws in the low 90s and topped out at 95 in HS and is relatively raw for a HS pitcher. Anyways, here's what AZ Phil says:

Austin Reed is a tall dude with long legs and a thick lower body, sort of reminds me (physically) of Mark Prior. He throws two fastballs (one he'll pound in the strike zone and another one that acts like a sweeping cutter), and a decent slow curve and an OK straight change-up. His big problem is that he doesn't always repeat his delivery from outing-to-outing, and so sometimes it takes him a few ABs to get to the right slot and release point. He played 3B a lot in HS, and probably just needs to concentrate on pitching.

From what I have seen of the 2010 draft picks, I would say Reed is absolutely the #1 starting pitcher prospect, but might need some time to develop. Aaron Kurcz is a definite closer prospect and could move VERY fast through the system. And Dallas Beeler (2009 TJS) is better (and much more-polished) than I thought he would be, considering he was a 41st round pick and didn't pitch much in 2010. He has three quality pitches, and throws all of them for strikes.


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Re: Best upside from last draft?

Postby ScrubMD » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:11 pm

BeerHere wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Matt Szczur and Austin Reed stand out.


Is there any indication what Szczur will do after the football season?


From what he's said, it seems like he'll play football if he thinks he'll be drafted and make the team.

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Re: Best upside from last draft?

Postby ScrubMD » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:12 pm

Also, Kurcz and Greathouse have been very good. Kurcz seems poised to move quickly through the system and into the bullpen. His stats are insane.

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Re: Best upside from last draft?

Postby toonsterwu » Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:18 am

To add some other names to the discussion:

I am still intrigued with Dustin Geiger's bat potential. Early reviews on his ability to stick at 3rd seem positive, but for him to go anywhere, that power has to develop.

I'd also say add Colin Richardson and Ryan Hartman into the discussion. Both are a step behind Austin Reed developmentally, but both have solid potential.

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Re: Best upside from last draft?

Postby craig » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:00 am

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/teams/vvh

I checked on how Szczur is doing football wise.

Villanova got beat by Temple, a D1 school, and has trounced a couple of the FCS teams. (Towson and Lehigh).

Through 3 games, Szczur has wracked up 8 catches for 42 yards, has run 25 times for 137 yards, is 4-5 passing, and has done kick returning.

Having a jack-of-all-trades guy like that is nice for an FCS school. But unless the NFL loves him as a return specialist, I doubt a guy who is 4th on his FCS team in pass receptions is going to get drafted real high, in the 5th round or higher. If he's the #4 receiver and the #3 RB on an FCS level team, I doubt NFL teams are going to be spending 4th round picks on him expecting that he'll be able to be a #4 receiver in the NFL.

So I'm reading his Villanova results as being modest enough that he may well end up sticking with the Cubs. Whether or not he really has enough offensive potential to makes it as a LFer who doesn't steal, that is unlikely but time will tell.

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Re: Best upside from last draft?

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:24 am

craig wrote:http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/teams/vvh

I checked on how Szczur is doing football wise.

Villanova got beat by Temple, a D1 school, and has trounced a couple of the FCS teams. (Towson and Lehigh).

Through 3 games, Szczur has wracked up 8 catches for 42 yards, has run 25 times for 137 yards, is 4-5 passing, and has done kick returning.

Having a jack-of-all-trades guy like that is nice for an FCS school. But unless the NFL loves him as a return specialist, I doubt a guy who is 4th on his FCS team in pass receptions is going to get drafted real high, in the 5th round or higher. If he's the #4 receiver and the #3 RB on an FCS level team, I doubt NFL teams are going to be spending 4th round picks on him expecting that he'll be able to be a #4 receiver in the NFL.

So I'm reading his Villanova results as being modest enough that he may well end up sticking with the Cubs. Whether or not he really has enough offensive potential to makes it as a LFer who doesn't steal, that is unlikely but time will tell.


Szczur still projects as a future CF. He played CF exclusively at Peoria and did get a few games there at Boise but wasn't going to supplant Kyung-Min Na w/ Boise (Na is the best CF defensively in the Cubs system).

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Re: Best upside from last draft?

Postby toonsterwu » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:58 am

I wouldn't get too hopeful for Szczur just yet. If he runs the 4.3ish time that many are expecting, along with the excellent quickness times, he'll work his way up the board a tad. With the proliferation of the spread attack in the NFL, quick guys that can work the middle are more valued than ever, due to their capability to quickly create separation, and the more I hear from folks, people really love Szczur's potential to do that. He needs to have a big season at Villanova, but there's no reason he can't be a solid mid-round pick (3rd-5th round pick) if he has a big year and has good workout numbers, and if that happens, I think he's going to go with football (if his comments are to be believed). I didn't think that was the case awhile back, but asking around, and folks really are intrigued with Szczur's football potential. To be honest, awhile back, I thought his baseball potential was higher than his football potential, but I'm not sure that's the case anymore. His offensive potential in baseball will always be dependent upon his speed, unless the bat develops power that isn't there right now, whereas he can be a key cog in a passing attack.

I'm hoping he chooses baseball, but I'm not counting on it right now. I'd love to see him as the everyday CF in Peoria next year.


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