2013 Draft Discussion

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby David » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:03 am

I wonder if someone originally heard labrum and assumed wrong, and that was the cause of the confusion surrounding his injury.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby davell » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:09 am

If it takes full slot to get Appel, I'd do it. But I'd be slightly disappointed in having to do so. No one got that much last year, he's not the "uber prospect" type that should require that type of cash. I'd do it because I do think he's the top option after Gray's mess up. But picking this high in an averagish to slightly worse draft is definitely supposed to give us advantages for other rounds as well.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:11 am

BA's mock obviously has Sean Manaea dropping out of the first but also has Austin Wilson dropping out too.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby CubinNY » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:12 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:BA's mock obviously has Sean Manaea dropping out of the first but also has Austin Wilson dropping out too.

I was thinking about the ISU kid yesterday, could the Cubs nab him in round 2?

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby davell » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:40 am

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CaliforniaRaisin wrote:BA's mock obviously has Sean Manaea dropping out of the first but also has Austin Wilson dropping out too.

I was thinking about the ISU kid yesterday, could the Cubs nab him in round 2?

All depends on price tag. My honest guess is the Yanks spread some money around with their 3 early picks and take him.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby David » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:41 am

ABTY again

Appel does in fact have a number in place (NOT a deal- lots more to this than just figures; 40 man spot? bonus structure? etc.) with the Cubs for 88-90% of slot... Astros number is somewhere between 3.75-5M, Cubs coming in at just about 6M...

Monkey wrech time: hearing the FO has taken the 6M figure to Gray and asked if he'd be willing to accept 5-5.5M... ploy to get Appel's number down? Really interested in Gray?... I dunno to be honest fellas... still feel its Appel...
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby NonProfitCow » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:42 am

David wrote:ABTY again

Appel does in fact have a number in place (NOT a deal- lots more to this than just figures; 40 man spot? bonus structure? etc.) with the Cubs for 88-90% of slot... Astros number is somewhere between 3.75-5M, Cubs coming in at just about 6M...

Monkey wrech time: hearing the FO has taken the 6M figure to Gray and asked if he'd be willing to accept 5-5.5M... ploy to get Appel's number down? Really interested in Gray?... I dunno to be honest fellas... still feel its Appel...

I thought the 40 man spot was done away with in the new CBA?

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby KingCubsFan » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:46 am

davell wrote:If it takes full slot to get Appel, I'd do it. But I'd be slightly disappointed in having to do so. No one got that much last year, he's not the "uber prospect" type that should require that type of cash. I'd do it because I do think he's the top option after Gray's mess up. But picking this high in an averagish to slightly worse draft is definitely supposed to give us advantages for other rounds as well.

He's the best prospect in the draft AND the closest to the majors. Most drafts will only get you 2-3 major leaguers anyways, so I'm OK with securing a guy with the best chance of contributing to the major league team. Plus rounds 2-50 are a complete crapshoot anyways.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby David » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:48 am

NonProfitCow wrote:
David wrote:ABTY again

Appel does in fact have a number in place (NOT a deal- lots more to this than just figures; 40 man spot? bonus structure? etc.) with the Cubs for 88-90% of slot... Astros number is somewhere between 3.75-5M, Cubs coming in at just about 6M...

Monkey wrech time: hearing the FO has taken the 6M figure to Gray and asked if he'd be willing to accept 5-5.5M... ploy to get Appel's number down? Really interested in Gray?... I dunno to be honest fellas... still feel its Appel...

I thought the 40 man spot was done away with in the new CBA?


I'm honestly not sure. Either way, he's just spitballing at that point.
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Postby Bunts Lick Butts » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:49 am

I love how much confusion there is right now
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby A New Era » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:58 am

I'm not confused. It's either Appel or Bryant. The only thing to wonder about is, how much each would sign for.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby David » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:06 am

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I think I can identify ONE of them.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby Bunts Lick Butts » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:16 am

A New Era wrote:I'm not confused. It's either Appel or Bryant. The only thing to wonder about is, how much each would sign for.


I dont mean about us, I mean just in general. There are four people who could go number one, and each one could screw up the rest of the top 5 dramatically. It's going to be a fun night.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:25 am

http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId= ... rc=desktop

Keith Law's final mock. Anyone want to hook us up with the top two picks, please?

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby David » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:29 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=9348024&src=desktop

Keith Law's final mock. Anyone want to hook us up with the top two picks, please?


From what I've heard, he has Appel #1 and Gray #2.

But he just calls it a "scenario" rather than a projection.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:29 am

1 Mark Appel

POS: RHP HT: 6-5 WT: 215 School: Stanford

Analysis: So the last rumor of the night Wednesday … or the small hours of Thursday morning, had the Astros trying to nail down a price from Appel so they could take him with the first pick and still ensure that they had enough savings to exceed MLB's bonus recommendations with picks 40 and 74. They could still take Colin Moran, or Jonathan Gray, or (least likely) Kris Bryant.

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2 Jonathan Gray

POS: RHP HT: 6-4 WT: 239 School: Oklahoma

Analysis: Appel or Gray here, with money probably a major variable as the Cubs seem to view the two guys as very close. They may not have a choice if the Astros take one of the two, in which case Chicago will take the other.

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3 Kris Bryant

POS: 3B/OF B/T: R/R HT: 6-5 WT: 215 School: San Diego

Analysis: The Rockies have been linked to Bryant all spring. Rumor of the week has the Rockies shocking everyone here with Dominic Smith, although I get the sense that they like Smith a lot but not with this pick.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby Bunts Lick Butts » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:39 am

Rasin, whatever happend to that high school catcher out of yukon, ok? Early on, he was like a top-15 guy and now I don't hear him mentioned. Is he a tough sign or what's the deal with him?

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Oops, nevermind, I see Law has him in the low 20s.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:46 am

Jonny Oil/Vinegar/Egg yolk has this one:

1. Astros: Jonathan Gray, RHP, Oklahoma
It's still the same cast of characters, but a strong feeling that it will be either Gray or Colin Moran doesn't want to go away.

2. Cubs: Mark Appel, RHP, Stanford
They're contemplating Kris Bryant, but there's no reason to switch this pick.

3. Colorado Rockies: Kris Bryant, 3B, San Diego
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby THISisTHEyear09 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:46 am

In response to my question Who do you guys think cubs have ranked 1 and 2.

He says "College pitcher and College Batter...1 and 2"

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby David » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:49 am

THISisTHEyear09 wrote:In response to my question Who do you guys think cubs have ranked 1 and 2.

He says "College pitcher and College Batter...1 and 2"


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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby THISisTHEyear09 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:49 am

Also said consensus is Astros or Cubs will take Manaea in the 2nd if he is there

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby THISisTHEyear09 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:50 am

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby sneakypower » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:51 am

David wrote:
THISisTHEyear09 wrote:In response to my question Who do you guys think cubs have ranked 1 and 2.

He says "College pitcher and College Batter...1 and 2"


Who is he?

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:52 am

imb! wrote:Rasin, whatever happend to that high school catcher out of yukon, ok? Early on, he was like a top-15 guy and now I don't hear him mentioned. Is he a tough sign or what's the deal with him?

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Oops, nevermind, I see Law has him in the low 20s.


Denney is definitely singable. He had a bit of a down season to drop him to the back half of the first round but he might go higher because he's singable.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:53 am

THISisTHEyear09 wrote:Also said consensus is Astros or Cubs will take Manaea in the 2nd if he is there


Callis also tweeted the Astros are very interested in Manaea at 40.


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