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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:31 pm

KyleJRM wrote:Having had a day to process the arguments and discussion on both sides, I think I would pass on Gray over this incident.

His whole ascension to the top of the draft board, when he suddenly could not only hold his fastball velocity late into games but improve it, was already in need of an explanation. Now we have a potential explanation that seems pretty plausible to me.


That's the way I'm leaning, unless they may think he will be allowed to "treat his ailment" as a pro.

Still though, if they were drafting 3rd maybe it makes sense to take the guy but when you have the option of one of the other two among the big three, I see no reason to risk it.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby RammyFanny » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:39 pm

KyleJRM wrote:Having had a day to process the arguments and discussion on both sides, I think I would pass on Gray over this incident.

His whole ascension to the top of the draft board, when he suddenly could not only hold his fastball velocity late into games but improve it, was already in need of an explanation. Now we have a potential explanation that seems pretty plausible to me.

I now fully expect us to draft Gray followed by Blair :wink:

I wish there was a way we could find out if it was a one or two time thing for school or if he's been using them for a year. That's really the deciding factor. I guess you probably have to assume the worst.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:54 pm

@jimcallisBA: Did a podcast on #mlbdraft (what else?) w/@keithlaw: http://es.pn/12rihLa. We discuss top of draft and intricacies of doing a mock draft.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby RammyFanny » Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:16 pm

Will Carroll ‏@injuryexpert 1h

Not going to give more details, but there are two pitchers in the consensus top ten I'd red flag if I had that power.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:22 pm

No one cares Will, especially if you're not going to name names.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:27 pm

One of them is Shipley.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby Tangled Up in Plaid » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:14 pm

RammyFanny wrote:
Will Carroll ‏@injuryexpert 1h

Not going to give more details, but there are two pitchers in the consensus top ten I'd red flag if I had that power.


What the [expletive] kind of [expletive] is this?

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:29 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
@jimcallisBA: Did a podcast on #mlbdraft (what else?) w/@keithlaw: http://es.pn/12rihLa. We discuss top of draft and intricacies of doing a mock draft.


Hayden Simpson anecdote is pretty funny.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:02 pm

I'm sure it's somewhere in here but I don't want to look for it, what time does the draft start on Thursday?
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby Tangled Up in Plaid » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:13 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:I'm sure it's somewhere in here but I don't want to look for it, what time does the draft start on Thursday?


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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby RammyFanny » Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:13 pm

Jim Callis‏@jimcallisBA15m
Beginning to sense #Astros leaning to Appel if $ fit like they want. #mlbdraft

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If Appel 1-1, think Gray 1-2. Nothing set in stone. @TheCubsGuy: think the #Cubs go Bryant then? #mlbdraft
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby RammyFanny » Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:54 pm

Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 1m

The crazy bananas top 10 rumor has surfaced. Marlins looking hard at Rob Kaminsky at #6. Jeff Loria prominently featured at private workout.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby bd811 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:01 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:I'm sure it's somewhere in here but I don't want to look for it, what time does the draft start
on Thursday?


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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:14 pm

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Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 1m

The crazy bananas top 10 rumor has surfaced. Marlins looking hard at Rob Kaminsky at #6. Jeff Loria prominently featured at private workout.

lol


Geez, it should be so easy to get their IFA cap space.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:32 pm

Kiley McDaniel wrote:Another prep SS in the Trop at the recent workout was local kid Tucker Neuhaus (Louisville signee), though he's more of a 3B professionally. He's been hurt almost the entire spring with a number of temporary ailments but had a loud fall on the showcase circuit and early spring showing. Neuhaus has been making up for lost time hitting double digit workouts for clubs and looks to be in play for a number of clubs starting in the comp round and likely not getting out of the second round. Other interested teams include the Cubs, Cardinals, Brewers, Twins, Blue Jays, Royals, Astros, Marlins and D'Backs.


Atlanta, Pittsburgh and the Cubs have been shadowing Tampa prep RHP Nick Eicholtz (Alabama signee) all spring and could pick him as high as the third round.


Florida RHP Karsten Whitson is still looking for seven figure money but after a cleanup of his shoulder and a lost season, it may be for less than the over $2 million he turned down out of high school. Rumor has it he could be an over slot target for a club that saves some money up top in the early rounds, with Houston, the Chicago Cubs and Cleveland among possible homes.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby wekim81 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:31 am

RammyFanny wrote:
Will Carroll ‏@injuryexpert 1h

Not going to give more details, but there are two pitchers in the consensus top ten I'd red flag if I had that power.

what an effin troll. Go away Will Carroll.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:45 am

Allan Simpson and BP's top 25: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/artic ... t0.twitter

They have Gray first, Appel second.

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby RammyFanny » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:54 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Allan Simpson and BP's top 25: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/artic ... t0.twitter

They have Gray first, Appel second.

I'm not subscribed, but I think I saw somewhere else on the site that they have Frazier 3rd and Bryant 7th. Unless it was another writer for them.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby ctcf » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:01 am

RammyFanny wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Allan Simpson and BP's top 25: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/artic ... t0.twitter

They have Gray first, Appel second.

I'm not subscribed, but I think I saw somewhere else on the site that they have Frazier 3rd and Bryant 7th. Unless it was another writer for them.


In the list linked above, Bryant is #3, Frazier is #4

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby RammyFanny » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:12 am

ctcf wrote:
RammyFanny wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Allan Simpson and BP's top 25: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/artic ... t0.twitter

They have Gray first, Appel second.

I'm not subscribed, but I think I saw somewhere else on the site that they have Frazier 3rd and Bryant 7th. Unless it was another writer for them.


In the list linked above, Bryant is #3, Frazier is #4

Thanks. I'll see if I can dig up what I was talking about.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby RammyFanny » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:16 am

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/artic ... leid=20817

That was it. Not an official BP listing or anything.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:20 pm

For those unable to watch or find following online to be cumbersome, MLB set up a twitter account that will tweet all the picks.

https://twitter.com/MLBDraftTracker

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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby David » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:00 pm

ABTY thinks the top 10 will go like this. Just his guess based on what he knows:

Astros: Bryant
CUBS: Appel
Rockies: Moran
Twins: McGuire
Tribe: Grey
Marlins: Meadows
Red Sox: Stewart
Royals: Bickford (hearing lock)
Pirates: Ball
Blue Jays: Frazier
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby David » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:00 pm

Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 4m
Just swapped emails w/2 directors in the top 5 picks & advisor of #1 pick candidate. All have no idea what the Astros will do. Crazy quiet.
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Re: 2013 Draft Discussion

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:02 pm

The Astros realize they need a pre-arranged deal to make this work, right? If you make a pick without one, they have every right to hold out for full slot.


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