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by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:41 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Chicago Bulls 2019-2020
Replies: 106
Views: 6329

Re: Chicago Bulls 2019-2020

Worst thing is that it doesnt seem like his sons are deviating much from his path. Hopefully its like the Bill/Rocky Wirtz relationship where he abided by his father's outdated wishes until he passed and then completely overhauled the organization. Or it can be an Al Davis/Mark Davis situation wher...
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:45 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

Nagy leaves a lot to be desired but I don't see why he can't improve at the job. Bad QB, bad offensive line and impactless running backs are a tough thing to succeed with. People criticize them for not running up the middle enough when they can't gain a yard to save their lives. Obviously he has ca...
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:26 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

The Bears have too much talent to tank. They've gone over 300 yards 1 time in 10 games and have had a chance in the final 3 minutes in all but the Saints game. The problem with competition for Trubisky is that "competition" isn't good enough. You need a guy better than Trubisky, and proba...
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Social
Topic: Politics & Current Events
Replies: 33026
Views: 1727624

Re: Politics & Current Events

They're painting a celebrated soldier as a partisan hack, and it works with their people. Nothing is crashing down with them. None of it matters. "Their people" aren't going to change their mind about impeachment. It's the rest of the country they need to convince, and keeping the whistle...
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:19 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

Was thinking of what could come out of Nagy... True or False: Jason Garrett is Matt Nagy's upper ceiling as a coach. Garrett was a young up and coming offensive coach who's teams were pretty average (0.500 record, 2 15th ranked scoring Os) his first two years, with a pretty good QB in Romo running t...
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:58 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Chicago Bulls 2019-2020
Replies: 106
Views: 6329

Re: Chicago Bulls 2019-2020

Maybe Michael despises his dad for making him work for a living and will sell them the minute he dies. Best case scenario IMO.
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:10 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

if Mitch improves to the point that he gets in line for an extension, he will have played very well. I don't think Pace and CO are going to extend him if he's just so-so. Check out my last post on the previous page. How do you think Pace handles that hypothetical? a 99 passer rating and nearly 4000...
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:00 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: NFL Week 11
Replies: 47
Views: 1632

Re: NFL Week 11

It was actually a can of mixed vegetables he was talking to.
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:58 pm
Forum: Social
Topic: Politics & Current Events
Replies: 33026
Views: 1727624

Re: Politics & Current Events

jersey cubs fan wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:Tea party was around before Obama, or is this a new Tea Party?

What?

They just rebranded after Obama :lol:
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

minnesotacubsfan wrote:if Mitch improves to the point that he gets in line for an extension, he will have played very well. I don't think Pace and CO are going to extend him if he's just so-so.

Check out my last post on the previous page. How do you think Pace handles that hypothetical?
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:51 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

I feel like if Nagy is involved in picking the next attempt at a franchise QB, he'll turn it into some weird sideshow where he comes up with convoluted ways to measure who is the exact opposite of Trubisky in every way. They'll try to find the Mahomes-iest pick they can, but just end up with some A...
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

Exactly, when I re-read it didn't make sense to me either, should he show signs of moderate improvement in 2020, do not want the Bears fooled into giving him a financially crippling extension. If he shows only moderate signs of improvement the team won't be that much better and I would expect them ...
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:22 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

I feel like if Nagy is involved in picking the next attempt at a franchise QB, he'll turn it into some weird sideshow where he comes up with convoluted ways to measure who is the exact opposite of Trubisky in every way. They'll try to find the Mahomes-iest pick they can, but just end up with some A...
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:15 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

Gonna be an interesting offseason. Obviously the 2018 coach of the year and one of the top executives of the year aren't going anywhere.....so the hot take artists on Twitter can stop with that. But I do think they will feel a TON of pressure this offseason. Not necessarily from the fans, or owners...
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:38 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

[ If they manage to go on a 2020 playoff run with Mitch as Qb, odds are he'd have significantly improved. Pace and Nagy would have a lot of data points on Mitch by then and can make the decision about the contract. It's their future they are playing with at that point, and they could still decide t...
by WrigleyField 22
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:33 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

why would that be bad, assuming Mitch turns it around ala Alex Smith?? Should we just give him to the Bengals once he's figured it out? It really depends on what that hypothetical would mean. If Mitch of 2018 were to be his ceiling, that's a QB who you'd really struggle to build a team around with ...
by WrigleyField 22
Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:27 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

what? I think he's worried if the Bears turn it around with Mitch they'll give him a dumb extension. why would that be bad, assuming Mitch turns it around ala Alex Smith?? Should we just give him to the Bengals once he's figured it out? It really depends on what that hypothetical would mean. If Mit...
by WrigleyField 22
Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:14 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

It's got to a new QB in 2020, with Mitch as the backup, 3rd string whatever. Because what if Nagy, or someone else, finally figures out how to utilize Mitch' strengths, the Bears have a good 2020, make the playoffs. etc...... what? I think he's worried if the Bears turn it around with Mitch they'll...
by WrigleyField 22
Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:31 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

We can call the success odds of that whatever we want because I know targeting a Alex Smith turnaround isn't great odds, but there's a decent basis to work with in the current roster. Yes, a castoff like Alex Smith plus Andy Reid plus a 1st round pick. The Bears are not in the situation KC was in. ...
by WrigleyField 22
Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:47 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

The Bears will have access to a new QB. Not gonna be a top 5 pick, but plenty of teams have turned it around without picking a top 5 QB. They really won't. It's not just about a lack of top 5 QB, it's about having to settle for a 2nd round QB or take a flyer on some other team's castoff. They'd pro...
by WrigleyField 22
Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

TomtheBombadil wrote:Give Marcus Mariota a shot, 2020 Bears!

Nah, thanks.
by WrigleyField 22
Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:12 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

Andy Reid 2012-13 in KC is a great recent example of not doing that. Going and grabbing Alex Smith obviously was a pretty big part of that immediate turnaround but they didn't just totally take the axe to the roster, and to the extent they did get their own guys in they did enough in year 1 to see ...
by WrigleyField 22
Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

Ryan Pace isn't getting another shot at the coaching hire. And I don't think ownership wants to re-spin the "every 2 years we get somebody new plan" wheel. No I don't think Pace should or will get another HC hire. I'd guess ownership will be conservative and give both guys another year at...
by WrigleyField 22
Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:17 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:Can they cut Massie and Leno?


On principle because they suck? Yes.

To save cap space? No, they both have some dead cap hit. Cutting Massie only saves you $2.9m and cutting Leno actually costs you $2.5m more.

FYI, you flipped these guys. Other way around, but right numbers.
by WrigleyField 22
Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM
Replies: 258
Views: 5549

Re: Bears at Rams SNF on NBC 7:20 PM

Can they cut Massie and Leno? Save about 3M to cut Leno. Or a bit more as a post June 1 cut. Massie is a Post June 1 cut only. His structure is a bit different though and his dead cap is almost all gone after this offseason. Leno is more signing bonus heavy so the dead cap lingers. Bears repeating ...

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