Piniella: I'm retiring at the end of the season

Keener98 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:24 pm

eb14play2 wrote:

I think this relates to this conversation. I think the Ricketts are going to keep Hendry, and I like it. I don't approve of the way this team has been handled by Hendry over the last 6 years or so, but I think a lot of that had to do with pressure from the Tribune company to win now. Hendry has done pretty well for himself in other areas as GM. It seems the mistakes have nearly always been in a push for "the final piece." The Ricketts are intelligent people, and I think their plans include a rebuilding mode for the next couple of years while still being moderately competitive in a not-so-good division. I hope they do not think they have to go out and get their manager of the future this offseason though. To me, they still have a couple of years to decide on the right one, rather than the available one.

No offense, but thats ridiculous.

davearm2 · **Joined:** Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:27 pm **Posts:** 1116

eb14play2 wrote:

I think this relates to this conversation. I think the Ricketts are going to keep Hendry, and I like it. I don't approve of the way this team has been handled by Hendry over the last 6 years or so, but I think a lot of that had to do with pressure from the Tribune company to win now. Hendry has done pretty well for himself in other areas as GM. It seems the mistakes have nearly always been in a push for "the final piece." The Ricketts are intelligent people, and I think their plans include a rebuilding mode for the next couple of years while still being moderately competitive in a not-so-good division. I hope they do not think they have to go out and get their manager of the future this offseason though. To me, they still have a couple of years to decide on the right one, rather than the available one.

Of course the plan will be to hire the right "manager of the future" this offseason.

What, did you think they'd just hire any old guy and figure, "eh, we'll just fire him in a year"?

eb14play2 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:55 pm

davearm2 wrote:

eb14play2 wrote:

I think this relates to this conversation. I think the Ricketts are going to keep Hendry, and I like it. I don't approve of the way this team has been handled by Hendry over the last 6 years or so, but I think a lot of that had to do with pressure from the Tribune company to win now. Hendry has done pretty well for himself in other areas as GM. It seems the mistakes have nearly always been in a push for "the final piece." The Ricketts are intelligent people, and I think their plans include a rebuilding mode for the next couple of years while still being moderately competitive in a not-so-good division. I hope they do not think they have to go out and get their manager of the future this offseason though. To me, they still have a couple of years to decide on the right one, rather than the available one.

Of course the plan will be to hire the right "manager of the future" this offseason.

What, did you think they'd just hire any old guy and figure, "eh, we'll just fire him in a year"?

I didn't say they shouldn't plan on hiring the right manager this offseason, but if they're not happy with their options why should they commit to one of those guys for many years, especially when the team likely won't be real contenders next season? Obviously, best case scenario they get their man this offseason and that guy is a good manager. I just don't want them to settle for somebody and be stuck with him for a long stretch. Now, trying to find a manager that signs only a one or two year deal on a team that appears to not be serious contenders would not be an easy task.

Post Count Padder · **Posted:** Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:11 pm

Quote:

Many Interested In Managing Cubs
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 21 at 9:35pm CST]

It's barely been 24 hours since Cubs manager Lou Piniella announced his intention to retire after the season, but many potential successors have already indicated that they wouldn't mind replacing him. Here's the latest on some of the candidates GM Jim Hendry could consider after the season:

* Cubs TV announcer and former D'Backs manager Bob Brenly told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he would have interest in the gig, should the Cubs want to discuss anything.
* Cubs bench coach and former Tigers manager Alan Trammell was reluctant to discuss the opening, but told Sullivan that he would revisit it at an "appropriate" time.
* Nationals third base coach Pat Listach told Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post that he doesn't know "anybody on the planet" who wouldn't be interested in managing the Cubs. Listach managed in the Cubs' system for three seasons.
* Joe Torre, who is in the final year of his contract, told the AP that he doesn't expect to manage for a team other than the Dodgers in 2011. However, Torre didn't want to "rule anything out."
* And Ryne Sandberg told ESPN Radio that he is "ready" to manage the Cubs. The Hall of Famer is managing the Cubs' Triple A affiliate.

GRCubsFan · **Joined:** Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:04 am **Posts:** 8645

Post Count Padder wrote:

Quote:

Many Interested In Managing Cubs
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 21 at 9:35pm CST]

It's barely been 24 hours since Cubs manager Lou Piniella announced his intention to retire after the season, but many potential successors have already indicated that they wouldn't mind replacing him. Here's the latest on some of the candidates GM Jim Hendry could consider after the season:

* Cubs TV announcer and former D'Backs manager Bob Brenly told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he would have interest in the gig, should the Cubs want to discuss anything.
* Cubs bench coach and former Tigers manager Alan Trammell was reluctant to discuss the opening, but told Sullivan that he would revisit it at an "appropriate" time.
* Nationals third base coach Pat Listach told Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post that he doesn't know "anybody on the planet" who wouldn't be interested in managing the Cubs. Listach managed in the Cubs' system for three seasons.
* Joe Torre, who is in the final year of his contract, told the AP that he doesn't expect to manage for a team other than the Dodgers in 2011. However, Torre didn't want to "rule anything out."
* And Ryne Sandberg told ESPN Radio that he is "ready" to manage the Cubs. The Hall of Famer is managing the Cubs' Triple A affiliate.

So 4 guys who aren't currently managing and all have current or very recent ties to the club would like to be managers of said club?

inari · **Posted:** Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:29 am

What ties does Joe Torre have to the Cubs?

soapy · **Posted:** Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:30 am

inari wrote:

What ties does Joe Torre have to the Cubs?

Someone asked him a question about the job (i.e. nothing).

GRCubsFan · **Joined:** Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:04 am **Posts:** 8645

inari wrote:

What ties does Joe Torre have to the Cubs?

count the potential candidates identified again - there are 5. 4 of them have ties to the Cubs (and only 3 of them actually expressed interest, though I assume Trammell is interested). I haven't seen any interest actually expressed by Joe Torre and that article doesn't show any either, so I didn't count him.

C.C. · **Posted:** Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:49 am

inari wrote:

What ties does Joe Torre have to the Cubs?

He's staying with LA.

No mention of Fredi Gonzales? Although, I'm assuming he's taking over the Braves job.

Soul · **Posted:** Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:14 am

GRCubsFan wrote:

Post Count Padder wrote:

Quote:

Many Interested In Managing Cubs
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 21 at 9:35pm CST]

It's barely been 24 hours since Cubs manager Lou Piniella announced his intention to retire after the season, but many potential successors have already indicated that they wouldn't mind replacing him. Here's the latest on some of the candidates GM Jim Hendry could consider after the season:

* Cubs TV announcer and former D'Backs manager Bob Brenly told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he would have interest in the gig, should the Cubs want to discuss anything.
* Cubs bench coach and former Tigers manager Alan Trammell was reluctant to discuss the opening, but told Sullivan that he would revisit it at an "appropriate" time.
* Nationals third base coach Pat Listach told Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post that he doesn't know "anybody on the planet" who wouldn't be interested in managing the Cubs. Listach managed in the Cubs' system for three seasons.
* Joe Torre, who is in the final year of his contract, told the AP that he doesn't expect to manage for a team other than the Dodgers in 2011. However, Torre didn't want to "rule anything out."
* And Ryne Sandberg told ESPN Radio that he is "ready" to manage the Cubs. The Hall of Famer is managing the Cubs' Triple A affiliate.

So 4 guys who aren't currently managing and all have current or very recent ties to the club would like to be managers of said club?

And one of the people they mentioned, Joe Torre, didn't even say he's interested specifically in the Cubs job. He just said he wouldn't rule anything out.

I'm not ruling anything out either, people. Ya never know.

pccubsfan · **Joined:** Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:59 am **Posts:** 41

Soul wrote:

GRCubsFan wrote:

Post Count Padder wrote:

Quote:

Many Interested In Managing Cubs
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 21 at 9:35pm CST]

It's barely been 24 hours since Cubs manager Lou Piniella announced his intention to retire after the season, but many potential successors have already indicated that they wouldn't mind replacing him. Here's the latest on some of the candidates GM Jim Hendry could consider after the season:

* Cubs TV announcer and former D'Backs manager Bob Brenly told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he would have interest in the gig, should the Cubs want to discuss anything.
* Cubs bench coach and former Tigers manager Alan Trammell was reluctant to discuss the opening, but told Sullivan that he would revisit it at an "appropriate" time.
* Nationals third base coach Pat Listach told Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post that he doesn't know "anybody on the planet" who wouldn't be interested in managing the Cubs. Listach managed in the Cubs' system for three seasons.
* Joe Torre, who is in the final year of his contract, told the AP that he doesn't expect to manage for a team other than the Dodgers in 2011. However, Torre didn't want to "rule anything out."
* And Ryne Sandberg told ESPN Radio that he is "ready" to manage the Cubs. The Hall of Famer is managing the Cubs' Triple A affiliate.

So 4 guys who aren't currently managing and all have current or very recent ties to the club would like to be managers of said club?

And one of the people they mentioned, Joe Torre, didn't even say he's interested specifically in the Cubs job. He just said he wouldn't rule anything out.

I'm not ruling anything out either, people. Ya never know.

So you're saying there's a chance.

Aramis Fan · **Posted:** Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:47 am

sorry if this was already posted, but Fredi Gonzalez is interested as well:

Source: Gonzalez candidate for Cubs
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NCCubFan · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:36 am

italianocubsfan7 wrote:

If Sandberg, Girardi, or Brenly becomes Cubs manager I could definitely see Maddux signing on as a coach, probably pitching coach.

I don't see that. I believe Larry stays as pitching coach regardless of who the manager is.

erik316wttn · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:42 am

NCCubFan wrote:

italianocubsfan7 wrote:

If Sandberg, Girardi, or Brenly becomes Cubs manager I could definitely see Maddux signing on as a coach, probably pitching coach.

I don't see that. I believe Larry stays as pitching coach regardless of who the manager is.

If Hendry leaves I think Maddux would be a good GM. Although I know a lot of people would be leery of putting him there without any prior front office experience. Someday, though, I think he'll be a great executive.

StarlinOnYou · **Joined:** Fri May 14, 2010 9:08 pm **Posts:** 40

I would be shocked if anyone other than Ryno gets the job. That is just my opinion however.

NCCubFan · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:59 pm

I didn't want to start a new thread for this, but Lou will miss the next three games to travel to Florida for his uncle's funeral. Alan Trammel will be acting manager and Matt Sinatro will serve as bench coach.

Garwilly · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:43 am

He's like a senior in high school. Come and go, disinterested

soccer10k · **Posted:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:46 am

NCCubFan wrote:

I didn't want to start a new thread for this, but Lou will miss the next three games to travel to Florida for his uncle's funeral. Alan Trammel will be acting manager and Matt Sinatro will serve as bench coach.

Maybe he'll enjoy it and just stay there.

EDIT: I mean Florida, not the funeral.

Omar · **Joined:** Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:10 pm **Posts:** 15329

soccer10k wrote:

NCCubFan wrote:

I didn't want to start a new thread for this, but Lou will miss the next three games to travel to Florida for his uncle's funeral. Alan Trammel will be acting manager and Matt Sinatro will serve as bench coach.

Maybe he'll enjoy it and just stay there.

EDIT: I mean Florida, not the funeral.

Less depressing than a Cubs game.

Jody, Jody Davis · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:53 pm

Is it too late for Ricketts to renege on his statement about Hendry after the season is over? I realize that the games don't mean anything now, but even independent of payroll this team is an complete embarassment. Bringing payroll into the equation, they are a disaster of epic proportions. It makes no sense whatsoever to allow the GM of a train wreck to hire the team's next manager.

Nuts&Gum · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:19 pm

I don't understand why you seem to think that the Ricketts wouldn't be able to fire Hendry whenever they wanted regardless of what's been said. It's not like their comments have some kind of no-fire clause.

Jody, Jody Davis · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:29 pm

Nuts&Gum wrote:

I don't understand why you seem to think that the Ricketts wouldn't be able to fire Hendry whenever they wanted regardless of what's been said. It's not like their comments have some kind of no-fire clause.

Ricketts said that Hendry would be the GM "going into next year." I think you were reading my statement too literally. Of course we know that Ricketts has the power to make a change at any time, but would he even consider such a thing after verbally committing to Hendry for next season? That is a little different than the standard vote of confidence.

Nuts&Gum · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:53 pm

Because he changes his mind? Because it was just lip service to begin with?

dew · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:04 pm

Nuts&Gum wrote:

Because he changes his mind? Because it was just lip service to begin with?

Firing Hendry after saying that would be a bad PR move, but a collapse in the second half would remedy that. If the Cubs are awful in the second half, Ricketts could easily say that recent occurences changed the situation and he is acting accordingly.

At that point, it's not reneging on his word (even if it was just lip service), it's being pro-active in a changing situation. Purely PR, but you'd like to avoid PR hits if you can.

Nuts&Gum · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:06 pm

dew wrote:

Nuts&Gum wrote:

Because he changes his mind? Because it was just lip service to begin with?

Firing Hendry after saying that would be a bad PR move, but a collapse in the second half would remedy that. If the Cubs are awful in the second half, Ricketts could easily say that recent occurences changed the situation and he is acting accordingly.

At that point, it's not reneging on his word (even if it was just lip service), it's being pro-active in a changing situation. Purely PR, but you'd like to avoid PR hits if you can.

Right. The statements in regards to Hendry in no way lock the Ricketts in to keeping him.

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