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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:04 pm 
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Hmm, that's not really surprising about the Cardinals hitting against crappy pitching. Since July 1st, when they've played teams with a record above .500 they are 4-12 (lost 2 of 3 to the Mets, although they technically split a 4 game set, Cubs, Phillies, and Mets, and got swept in a four game set by the Brewers) while they are 8-1 against teams under .500 (won 2 of 3 against the Pirates, swept a four game set against the Padres, and won two against the Braves thus far).

It will be interesting to see if there's any trend that keeps up the rest of the season. They have 9 series against teams with records over .500 and eight series against teams with records under .500.


Its alwasy a pleasure to visit NSBB during the big series. Two great wins by the Cubs. Wow. Im looking forward to meeting two my friends who are Chicago natives and of course die hard Cub fans for the game tonight. Although, may of you here will be disaappointed to learn they are rationale in their approach as fans.

THe fun part is I now have another reason to add to the list as to why the Cardinals are performing well.

Let's see, now I ass Facing crappy pitching, the infamous Pixie Dust (alwasy love that one), overachieving (an annual favorite), easy schedule, Luck (the default reason), am I missing any others. Cant wait to share these tonight.

All tounge-in-cheek, guys. But people say the craziest things here.

Oh and by the way, dont concern yourself with the Cardinals schedule. Milwauke only has 19 games remaining with sub-500 teams. Yikes.

And another thing, rehab for Tommy John is prescribed at a year, and pitchers have returned in shorter time. Carpenters arm wont fall off tonight! Have fun!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:06 pm 
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As has been said repeatedly, TJ rehabbers can often pitch within a year, but almost always takes 18-24 months before they pitch as well as they used to.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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overachieving (an annual favorite),

All tounge-in-cheek, guys. But people say the craziest things here.


Like saying people annually claim the Cardinals overachieve?


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:21 pm 
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As has been said repeatedly, TJ rehabbers can often pitch within a year, but almost always takes 18-24 months before they pitch as well as they used to.


Wikipedia or Google can be your friend. Thats where I found that your guy Dempster came back at twelve months with success, Kerry Wood had more velocity after 7, many more examples. Just wishing a guys arm falls off because you hate the team and all doesnt make that statement correct automatically.

I did hear on the radio that Carpenter will have two pockets full of pixie dust tonight, instead of the traditional one.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:32 pm 
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Well Carpenter certainly looks like he's back in top form after walking 4 guys on a AA team that had half it's lineup below a .700 OPS. Or when he tired after 70 pitches against a AAA lineup that also featured half it's lineup with a sub-.700 OPS. Luckily for him, he faces an embarrassment of a MLB lineup tonight, so if he doesn't get shelled it can be a rousing success.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:36 pm 
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Well Carpenter certainly looks like he's back in top form after walking 4 guys on a AA team that had half it's lineup below a .700 OPS. Or when he tired after 70 pitches against a AAA lineup that also featured half it's lineup with a sub-.700 OPS.


I hope he walks off the mound tonight holding his shoulder and fighting back tears like Mark Mulder as he realizes that his career us over.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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mtozz wrote:
KyleJRM wrote:
As has been said repeatedly, TJ rehabbers can often pitch within a year, but almost always takes 18-24 months before they pitch as well as they used to.


Wikipedia or Google can be your friend. Thats where I found that your guy Dempster came back at twelve months with success, Kerry Wood had more velocity after 7, many more examples. Just wishing a guys arm falls off because you hate the team and all doesnt make that statement correct automatically.

I did hear on the radio that Carpenter will have two pockets full of pixie dust tonight, instead of the traditional one.


Kerry Wood season before TJS: 3.40 ERA
Kerry Wood first season returning from TJS: 4.80 ERA
Kerry Wood second season returning from TJS: 3.36 ERA

If you are going to throw out the snide google comment, you should at least take the time to look things up yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Well Carpenter certainly looks like he's back in top form after walking 4 guys on a AA team that had half it's lineup below a .700 OPS. Or when he tired after 70 pitches against a AAA lineup that also featured half it's lineup with a sub-.700 OPS.


I hope he walks off the mound tonight holding his shoulder and fighting back tears like Mark Mulder as he realizes that his career us over.



That took long. Not!

So if he sucks tonight, he goes back to rehab plan. If he does good, you build from there. Not hard to figure out. We'll just keep on doing whats needed to win WS championships either way. Stuff happens.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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mtozz wrote:
IMB! wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Well Carpenter certainly looks like he's back in top form after walking 4 guys on a AA team that had half it's lineup below a .700 OPS. Or when he tired after 70 pitches against a AAA lineup that also featured half it's lineup with a sub-.700 OPS.


I hope he walks off the mound tonight holding his shoulder and fighting back tears like Mark Mulder as he realizes that his career us over.



That took long. Not!

So if he sucks tonight, he goes back to rehab plan. If he does good, you build from there. Not hard to figure out. We'll just keep on doing whats needed to win WS championships either way. Stuff happens.


i was only joking, i actually hope he takes a line drive off his dome and dies on the field

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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Thats an insane thing to say. I hope you get help for that.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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Thats an insane thing to say. I hope you get help for that.


i was just kidding around

i hope he dies in his hotel bed before the game like darryl kile

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i was only joking, i actually hope he takes a line drive off his dome and dies on the field


I hope it hits him in the stomach, causing internal bleeding. That's a much more painful way to die.

Also, I hope it richochets off him and also kills a small child (as long as the child is a Cardinals fan.)

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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Carp couldn't have picked a better lineup to attempt to come back against... there isn't a single OPS over .800 in the Braves lineup with Teixeira gone, Chipper on the DL, and McCann injured.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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Carp couldn't have picked a better lineup to attempt to come back against... there isn't a single OPS over .800 in the Braves lineup with Teixeira gone, Chipper on the DL, and McCann injured.


That lineup is working him pretty good too. 7 baserunners and 56 pitches in 3 innings.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:14 pm 
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da bears wrote:
Hmm, that's not really surprising about the Cardinals hitting against crappy pitching. Since July 1st, when they've played teams with a record above .500 they are 4-12 (lost 2 of 3 to the Mets, although they technically split a 4 game set, Cubs, Phillies, and Mets, and got swept in a four game set by the Brewers) while they are 8-1 against teams under .500 (won 2 of 3 against the Pirates, swept a four game set against the Padres, and won two against the Braves thus far).

It will be interesting to see if there's any trend that keeps up the rest of the season. They have 9 series against teams with records over .500 and eight series against teams with records under .500.


Its alwasy a pleasure to visit NSBB during the big series. Two great wins by the Cubs. Wow. Im looking forward to meeting two my friends who are Chicago natives and of course die hard Cub fans for the game tonight. Although, may of you here will be disaappointed to learn they are rationale in their approach as fans.

THe fun part is I now have another reason to add to the list as to why the Cardinals are performing well.

Let's see, now I ass Facing crappy pitching, the infamous Pixie Dust (alwasy love that one), overachieving (an annual favorite), easy schedule, Luck (the default reason), am I missing any others. Cant wait to share these tonight.

All tounge-in-cheek, guys. But people say the craziest things here.

Oh and by the way, dont concern yourself with the Cardinals schedule. Milwauke only has 19 games remaining with sub-500 teams. Yikes.

And another thing, rehab for Tommy John is prescribed at a year, and pitchers have returned in shorter time. Carpenters arm wont fall off tonight! Have fun!!!


Well, this is one of the stupidest posts I've seen in a long time. Congradulations. Instead of making counter points, you instead decide to post this garbage. But hey, I guess I shouldnt be surprised. I've heard all this crap from Cardinal fans for years and years now.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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da bears wrote:
mtozz wrote:
da bears wrote:
Hmm, that's not really surprising about the Cardinals hitting against crappy pitching. Since July 1st, when they've played teams with a record above .500 they are 4-12 (lost 2 of 3 to the Mets, although they technically split a 4 game set, Cubs, Phillies, and Mets, and got swept in a four game set by the Brewers) while they are 8-1 against teams under .500 (won 2 of 3 against the Pirates, swept a four game set against the Padres, and won two against the Braves thus far).

It will be interesting to see if there's any trend that keeps up the rest of the season. They have 9 series against teams with records over .500 and eight series against teams with records under .500.


Its alwasy a pleasure to visit NSBB during the big series. Two great wins by the Cubs. Wow. Im looking forward to meeting two my friends who are Chicago natives and of course die hard Cub fans for the game tonight. Although, may of you here will be disaappointed to learn they are rationale in their approach as fans.

THe fun part is I now have another reason to add to the list as to why the Cardinals are performing well.

Let's see, now I ass Facing crappy pitching, the infamous Pixie Dust (alwasy love that one), overachieving (an annual favorite), easy schedule, Luck (the default reason), am I missing any others. Cant wait to share these tonight.

All tounge-in-cheek, guys. But people say the craziest things here.

Oh and by the way, dont concern yourself with the Cardinals schedule. Milwauke only has 19 games remaining with sub-500 teams. Yikes.

And another thing, rehab for Tommy John is prescribed at a year, and pitchers have returned in shorter time. Carpenters arm wont fall off tonight! Have fun!!!


Well, this is one of the stupidest posts I've seen in a long time. Congradulations. Instead of making counter points, you instead decide to post this garbage. But hey, I guess I shouldnt be surprised. I've heard all this crap from Cardinal fans for years and years now.


A riot!! Weve heard the same from you for years...but theres a big BIG differnce...I wont say it to bum you out...Too funny...this is too easy. Ya try to engage decent conversation and it always turns into DIE CARDINALS...what are the ages of posters here anyway?


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Interesting thread. I laughed, I cried. Overall two thumbs up!

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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Let's see, now I ass Facing crappy pitching



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Let's see, now I ass Facing crappy pitching



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With the way that read, I assume that he is Yadier Molina.

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what are the ages of posters here anyway?

obviously we're a little older than you, or at least more mature


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Carpenter to start Wednesday
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I think everyone got their digs in.

Feel free to start another Chris Carpenter update thread if you can keep it civil.

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