"horsefeathers looks like The Thing" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

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Re: "horsefeathers looks like The Thing" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby Gmoney08 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:22 am

Derwood wrote:I'm saying that Dunn is sorta what he is right now, and that's fine. We don't need him to be an MVP. And maybe he ends up hitting for better average (bonus!) but he doesn't need to to be productive


That statline through your first 162 games doesnt scare me at all. First 162 games bookended with a terrible injury in the middle that took a whole year of ABs away from him.

I legit think Schwarber would have been hitting significantly better had he not missed an entire season of ABs after only a little over 2 months of seeing MLB pitching for the first time.

He might struggle more this season but I think you are going to see a guy that rakes come mid 2018 to 2019 as he develops.
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Postby BigSlick » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:11 am

He did, for whatever its worth, just pull his OPS above .700 today too

In terms of arbitrary stat lines, it'll be nice to see him pull that average over the Mendoza line. Let him work the rest of it out over the rest of the season.
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:14 am

Gotta start hammering those outside pitches to LF consistently
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Re: "horsefeathers looks like The Thing" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby UMFan83 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:06 pm

Saw this in a Dave Cameron FG chat:

JHey: Is it too early to say Kyle Schwarber may not be terrible in the OF? 6.4UZR/150….so he is just average or just below average at worst?

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Dave Cameron: All of his positive UZR is based on throwing.


Is that necessarily a bad thing that all his defensive value is based on throwing? It still means that he is playing the position as a whole slightly above average right? Or am I completely misunderstanding UZR?

If that's true, I would assume that throwing strength and accuracy are fairly consistent attributes although there is certainly some luck involved.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:22 pm

So long as he doesn't look like a Gamorrean guard staggering around out there, I'm cool with it.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:52 pm

Schwarber is one of Cameron's blind spots, everything he ever says about him is going to be through the most pessimistic lens possible even if it actually makes him look ridiculous. Oh no, Schwarber has an above average arm and is basically average with the glove, how terrible.
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Postby Duke Silver » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:55 pm

lol... the question even asks if he is "just average or just below average."

"No, he's only average without his positive arm."
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Postby bukie » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:19 pm

Duke Silver wrote:lol... the question even asks if he is "just average or just below average."

"No, he's only average without his positive arm."

Patiently waiting for the next hot take of "Sure he's an average LF, but he'd be awful at short."
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:39 pm

he's basically soriano in the field which is funny
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Postby Banedon » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:58 pm

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:he's basically soriano in the field which is funny


Schwarber has never hopped while catching a routine fly ball.
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:12 pm

Banedon wrote:
TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:he's basically soriano in the field which is funny


Schwarber has never hopped while catching a routine fly ball.


Hahah I forgot about that controversy
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Postby champaignchris » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:36 pm

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:he's basically soriano in the field which is funny


Didn't Soriano actually turn himself into a pretty decent fielder after Sveum and co came in and actually, you know, started coaching him to play the position?
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Re: "horsefeathers looks like The Thing" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby David » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:43 pm

champaignchris wrote:
TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:he's basically soriano in the field which is funny


Didn't Soriano actually turn himself into a pretty decent fielder after Sveum and co came in and actually, you know, started coaching him to play the position?


nah not really. had a positive fielding year one year but prob just the random variance of defensive metrics

was better in 07 and 08
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Re: "horsefeathers looks like The Thing" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby ConstableRabbit » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:28 am

David wrote:
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TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:he's basically soriano in the field which is funny


Didn't Soriano actually turn himself into a pretty decent fielder after Sveum and co came in and actually, you know, started coaching him to play the position?


nah not really. had a positive fielding year one year but prob just the random variance of defensive metrics

was better in 07 and 08

I loved it when people thought they could just run on him since he was a new OF and he'd just unload at three-quarters to nail guys at the plate.
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:28 am

Kyle is slashing 280/368/680 since his recall
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Postby Bull » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:47 am

We Got The Whole 9 wrote:Kyle is slashing 280/368/680 since his recall

This .... this is beautiful. *single tear*
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Postby WoodRules » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:14 pm

I just ventured over to Cards Talk out of sheer boredom, and there is a 103 page thread dedicated to Kyle at the very top of the forum. 103 pages! Even though he is having a tough year, hasn't he single handedly beat the Cards at least twice this year?
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:45 am

.245/.337/.545 since he came back from AAA
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Re: "horsefeathers looks like The Thing" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby Derwood » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:49 am

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:.245/.337/.545 since he came back from AAA


With a 203 K / 162 game pace
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Postby 17 Seconds » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:39 am

thanks derwood
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Re: "horsefeathers looks like The Thing" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby BigSlick » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:27 am

He's up to a 100 wRC+ and a .330 wOBA, and should be right around 100 on an OPS+ so he'll end up the year an almost exactly average major league hitter in 2017, after what looked like what might be a lost season.

Good for him.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:38 am

Now hitting .254/.341/.580 in 205 PA since his stint in AAA.
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Re: "horsefeathers looks like The Thing" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby Duke Silver » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:41 am

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Now hitting .254/.341/.580 in 205 PA since his stint in AAA.


What is it if you take out his good games, though?
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Re: "horsefeathers looks like The Thing" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby d_money » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:04 am

The Thing is a DH. I think yesterday’s error punctuated the need for him to be moved sooner rather than later. Happ becomes the everyday LF next year.
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Postby Bull » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:39 am

d_money wrote:The Thing is a DH. I think yesterday’s error punctuated the need for him to be moved sooner rather than later. Happ becomes the everyday LF next year.


nah, it was a bad play, but nothing worse than some other "great" left fielders have made.

He'll be a DH on the downhill side of his career, but don't write him off on one play. He got a little lazy. My guess is it will motivate him.
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