"Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

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Postby squally1313 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:30 pm

Oh shoot, he pulled another ball in the air just now. What about all the defenders over there???
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:31 pm

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Schwarber: 40.9% Pull %, 41.8% fly ball %, 6.6% infield fly ball %, 48.4% total fly ball %
Rizzo: 43.9% Pull %, 35.8% fly ball %, 9.8% infield fly ball %, 45.6% total fly ball %

Before you move the goal posts to strike out rate, I assume you want to trash Rizzo's batted ball profile too?

https://www.fangraphs.com/spraycharts.a ... battedball

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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:39 pm

That would have been cooler if the Pittsburgh one ended with a splash.
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby Rynomites23 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:50 pm

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One or a handful of at bats doesn’t change anything. His overall approach is to pull everything and to lift everything including when runners are in scoring position or when the pitch is outside or when there are eight guys right of second


Schwarber: 40.9% Pull %, 41.8% fly ball %, 6.6% infield fly ball %, 48.4% total fly ball %
Rizzo: 43.9% Pull %, 35.8% fly ball %, 9.8% infield fly ball %, 45.6% total fly ball %

Before you move the goal posts to strike out rate, I assume you want to trash Rizzo's batted ball profile too?

Clouding the issue with stat overload. I don’t have interest in breaking down further as the high level stats made the point clear enough. But i do have one observation- separating fly ball from pull is crap because it makes it look like you are separating in order to position your argument. Whether he turns on a fly ball or ground ball, they both fall under the same category of “pull” - right side of second
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:51 pm

Rynomites23 wrote:Clouding the issue with stat overload. I don’t have interest in breaking down further as the high level stats made the point clear enough.


And what was that point?
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:54 pm

Rynomites23 wrote:Clouding the issue with stat overload.


That's not a thing.

And then the lack of self-awareness to follow that up immediately with this:

I don’t have interest in breaking down further as the high level stats made the point clear enough.


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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby Rynomites23 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:54 pm

squally1313 wrote:Oh shoot, he pulled another ball in the air just now. What about all the defenders over there???

You have your hands full defending his .6 war, 52nd of war ranking, 12th on the cub and 7th among cub position players. Oh, and his defensive war of - 3.6. I’ll let you chew on that for a while. I could care less about yet another meaningless solo homer by one of the most overrated players in baseball.
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby squally1313 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:56 pm

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squally1313 wrote:Oh shoot, he pulled another ball in the air just now. What about all the defenders over there???

You have your hands full defending his .6 war, 52nd of war ranking, 12th on the cub and 7th among cub position players. Oh, and his defensive war of - 3.6. I’ll let you chew on that for a while. I could care less about yet another meaningless solo homer by one of the most overrated players in baseball.

Clouding the issue with stat overload, nerd. Go check out his dong today.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:57 pm

Overrated by who? Like, literally nobody in the rest of the baseball world is talking about him.
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:57 pm

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squally1313 wrote:Oh shoot, he pulled another ball in the air just now. What about all the defenders over there???

You have your hands full defending his .6 war, 52nd of war ranking, 12th on the cub and 7th among cub position players. Oh, and his defensive war of - 3.6. I’ll let you chew on that for a while. I could care less about yet another meaningless solo homer by one of the most overrated players in baseball.

I'm fairly impressed how you have that war/ranking/position/defensive war thing so memorized.

But how is a solo homerun meaningless in a game you lead 9-7?
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby squally1313 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:58 pm

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squally1313 wrote:Oh shoot, he pulled another ball in the air just now. What about all the defenders over there???

You have your hands full defending his .6 war, 52nd of war ranking, 12th on the cub and 7th among cub position players. Oh, and his defensive war of - 3.6. I’ll let you chew on that for a while. I could care less about yet another meaningless solo homer by one of the most overrated players in baseball.

I'm fairly impressed how you have that war/ranking/position/defensive war thing so memorized.

But how is a solo homerun meaningless in a game you lead 9-7?


He's obviously pissed no one got on in front of him.
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby BigSlick » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:56 pm

The only thing Kyle Schwarber leads the league in is really stupid circular arguments about a guy who's like, a decent but has not proven himself to be a good or great player.

Everyone should just shut up about him. He's fine. Go away. Talk about Heyward or something. There's no story here.
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby CoolHandLuke » Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:45 am

Is he trying to say "Twelfth on the club" or does he just not know how to refer to the team in a normal way?
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Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:52 am

your average baseball fan probably doesn't even know schwarber is still getting starts
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:05 am

BigSlick wrote:The only thing Kyle Schwarber leads the league in is really stupid circular arguments about a guy who's like, a decent but has not proven himself to be a good or great player.

Everyone should just shut up about him. He's fine. Go away. Talk about Heyward or something. There's no story here.



Heyward is now over .800 ops.
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:34 pm

This could be a something real and a mini leap by him....



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Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:22 pm

I like the fast and loose pre-swing and swing. I'm willing to believe in a leap that could secure him a job here through at least an arb year or two if he runs what us folks at home might refer to as roughshod through the playoffs. Schwarber's earnest af, mashed his way to the majors in a year, got hurt pretty early on while also changing positions, young LHHs always have a clear path to getting way better suddenly (figure out LHP, most don't, he's got a .755 OPS against them this year v career .657)...He's not the worst candidate to "suddenly" become a post-hype masher, and frankly the team is pretty starved for LHH and power without him. Available LHH replacements are rough at best this offseason too, replacements in general really, so probably stuck with him anyways. Looks like he's some BABIP luck away from a .250+/.350+/.530+ season right now, which would be pretty useful to actually get...
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby Backtobanks » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:40 pm

I still think the best move is to sign Castellanos and listen to offers for Schwarber. He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:44 pm

Backtobanks wrote:He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.


That all arguably applies to Castellanos, too, except against righties.
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby muntjack » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:50 pm

muntjack wrote:This seems like a good time and place to go on record in support of Schwarber. He had a 3 WAR year last year at 25, is only now getting consistent PAs vs. LHP (he's improved every year) and I think he has another level coming. Just my opinion.



Wrote this on June 27th. 136 wRC+ since then.
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:10 pm

Backtobanks wrote:I still think the best move is to sign Castellanos and listen to offers for Schwarber. He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

Why can’t he pinch hit?
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:11 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
Backtobanks wrote:He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.


That all arguably applies to Castellanos, too, except against righties.


Plus an extension means committing 5+ years probably which...TT already pointed it out but JD Martinez was JD Martinez for four years before he got paid.

My ideal outcome is that Schwarber becomes LHH JD Martinez (less average, more Ks because Lv L, but similar production otherwise), they ride that for a couple years, and then trade him for some quality prospects in preparation for the lol 2022 FA bonanza lol. I'd say something about Yohendrick Pinango taking the baton then but offseason for weird prospect talk :wink:
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:18 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
Backtobanks wrote:I still think the best move is to sign Castellanos and listen to offers for Schwarber. He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

Why can’t he pinch hit?

Where is that SSS guy to explain it to us?
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby ConstableRabbit » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:50 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
Backtobanks wrote:I still think the best move is to sign Castellanos and listen to offers for Schwarber. He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

Why can’t he pinch hit?

You can't pinch hit when you're starting.
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Re: "Time makes fools of us all" - The Kyle Schwarber Thread

Postby Backtobanks » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:01 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
Backtobanks wrote:I still think the best move is to sign Castellanos and listen to offers for Schwarber. He's fun to watch when he's on a roll, but he can't hit lefties, can't pinch hit, and needs to be replaced defensively in close games. He's a great option for being a DH/platoon OF in the AL.

Why can’t he pinch hit?



His track record as a PH is atrocious.
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