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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby sneakypower » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:37 pm

so when are we going to talk about the GGs he's gonna win with Simmons now in the AL
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Postby big ball chunky time » Wed May 11, 2016 3:46 am

I believe fangraphs has him at about a 5 WAR pace
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

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Bunts Lick Butts wrote:I believe fangraphs has him at about a 5 WAR pace


Nearly 6 now.
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Postby big ball chunky time » Wed May 11, 2016 3:56 am

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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby Duke Silver » Wed May 11, 2016 4:05 am

Good enough to rank fifth among our position players.

:lol:

And none of the five are Jason Heyward.
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby muntjack » Wed May 11, 2016 1:20 pm

3 years from now he'll be 25. :lol:
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby sneakypower » Wed May 11, 2016 2:13 pm

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Bunts Lick Butts wrote:I believe fangraphs has him at about a 5 WAR pace


Nearly 6 now.

higher than Corey Seager & Carlos Correa

is this a good time to point out that there's a 40-run difference between the UZR/150s of Russell and the imminent best player / most valuable player in baseball?
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby Duke Silver » Fri May 13, 2016 11:01 pm

Rank these guys:
Xander Bogaerts
Addison Russell
Francisco Lindor
Corey Seager
Carlos Correa
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby Gilby » Fri May 13, 2016 11:19 pm

Damn, Correa has -7 DRS already this season and an equally terrible UZR. I knew he wasn't great on D, but I didn't realize he was already headed toward "needs to be moved to third base" territory. I'm tempted to rank Russell first after seeing that.
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby David » Fri May 13, 2016 11:20 pm

Gilby wrote:Damn, Correa has -7 DRS already this season and an equally terrible UZR. I knew he wasn't great on D, but I didn't realize he was already headed toward "needs to be moved to third base" territory. I'm tempted to rank Russell first after seeing that.


yeah but now we have to put manny machado in his place instead

edit - but wait, i'm not so sure about russell ahead of bogaerts
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri May 13, 2016 11:23 pm

Why not just enjoy them rather than turn them into yet another internet list? I'm going to enjoy defending Russell like Yankee fans defended Jeter - "shut the horsefeathers up and come back to me when your guy has a handful of rings."

Machado is definitely the guy right now.
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby Duke Silver » Fri May 13, 2016 11:30 pm

David wrote:
Gilby wrote:Damn, Correa has -7 DRS already this season and an equally terrible UZR. I knew he wasn't great on D, but I didn't realize he was already headed toward "needs to be moved to third base" territory. I'm tempted to rank Russell first after seeing that.


yeah but now we have to put manny machado in his place instead

edit - but wait, i'm not so sure about russell ahead of bogaerts


Pay no mind to Manny Machado, I'm only interested in guys under the age of 23 years, 10 months, 7 days old.

You can throw in Trevor Story instead, if you'd like.
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby Cubbie Swagger » Sat May 14, 2016 1:30 am

Wow... Addy has really bumped those stats up the past couple weeks.

Would be nice if Heyward followed suit.
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby The Logan » Sat May 14, 2016 2:35 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:Why not just enjoy them rather than turn them into yet another internet list? I'm going to enjoy defending Russell like Yankee fans defended Jeter - "shut the [expletive] up and come back to me when your guy has a handful of rings."

Machado is definitely the guy right now.


I know Machado came up as a SS, but he only started playing there 12 games ago for the 2nd time in his MLB career (7 games last season) because Hardy got injured. I don't doubt Machado's ability to be a great defensive shortstop, but up until 12 games ago, he was a 3B, and I think he goes back there when Hardy returns and stays there long term even after Hardy leaves.

And I do take issue with these lists. A week and a half into the season, the dumb horsefeathers at MLB Network ranked the Top 5 greatest young shortstops in baseball. On that list:

Xander Bogaerts
Carlos Correa
Francisco Lindor
Corey Seager
and.... Trevor Story

No Addison Russell, but they included a guy who had a hot first week to kick off his career, despite only ranking on Top 100 lists for one of his minor league seasons 3 years ago in 2013 (who, P.S., has a -2.7 UZR and -12.5 UZR/150), and they lumped him in there with guys who consistently ranked in the Top 15 best prospects in baseball year in and year out while they were in the minors. It makes me irrationally angry that they ignore Russell, a 3-win player last year, who also ranked up there with those same players, because his slash line as a rookie wasn't up to their standards and he didn't get off to a hotter start than Story did.

Even after that segment they showed clips from the Cubs game that day where Russell got a double and one of the analysts said "And here you got a guy who's probably saying 'What about me guys? Why didn't you put me on that list?'" and horsefeathering Harold Reynolds said horsefeathers like "He hasn't shown me enough in his time yet to convince me that he's the real deal right now"

REALLY? He has a full season as a 3-win player at the age of 21 but he hasn't shown you enough to prove himself? Instead you think Trevor Story, a guy who joins the incredible ranks of such greats as Kevin Mench and Chris Shelton for having elite weeks hitting home runs, is easily one of the best young SS in baseball and will be for years to come? Ok.

I haaaaaate that horsefeathers. It's like the opposite of that Chappelle bit about being accused of something you didn't do, except in this scenario someone is not being given credit for something they're clearly better at than someone else. Give credit where credit is due: Among all SS 23 or younger, Addison Russell is a Top 3 shortstop.
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby Tracer Bullet » Sat May 14, 2016 3:33 pm

harold reynolds lol
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat May 14, 2016 8:08 pm

I forget my exact prediction, it may even be in this thread, but I still think this guy will be leading off for this franchise sooner rather than later. No rush, but do think it is coming.
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Postby Andy » Sat May 14, 2016 8:10 pm

Not saying Addison Russell will end up better than Barry Larkin, but Larkin was 24 by the time he had as many career fWAR as Russell already does at 22.
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby BigSlick » Sat May 14, 2016 9:17 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:I forget my exact prediction, it may even be in this thread, but I still think this guy will be leading off for this franchise sooner rather than later. No rush, but do think it is coming.

Why waste that power in the lead off spot? Lol
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby rawaction » Sun May 15, 2016 2:19 pm

I know RBIs aren't the greatest stat ever, but Russell is on pace for 125 RBIs hitting exclusively from the 7th and 8th spots in the order (has hit 6th, but 0 RBIs there).
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby sneakypower » Sun May 15, 2016 4:40 pm

Duke Silver wrote:Rank these guys:
Xander Bogaerts
Addison Russell
Francisco Lindor
Corey Seager
Carlos Correa

in terms of "i'm stuck playing these guys specifically at SS for the next 5 years":

Bogaerts
Lindor
Russell
Correa
Seager


edit: there's no right answer; all these guys are godly
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby Tim » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:07 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:

confused why this is here
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Re: Addison Russell is awesome and deserves a thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:09 pm

Tim wrote:
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confused why this is here

wow, so am I.

I was scrolling for a rizzo thread somehow mixed up the awesome hitter traded for a pitcher threads
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