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Postby Tim » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:45 pm

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Postby Tim » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:46 pm

Anyway, I don't mind Mallee keeping his job at all. I think there's been plenty of successes to justify it. If they had wanted to replace him with someone else, I would have been fine with that, too. As mentioned by others here and in the Bosio thread, I have plenty of confidence in our front office to find good people for those roles.
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Ah-HAH!!! Only, like, 60 people even know this place exists at this point, so IN YOUR FACE WITH A RUBBER MACE.

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Postby Gmoney08 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:04 pm

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Gmoney08 wrote:Also have to realize the core is still extremely young. The offense may not hit its peak for another 3 years.


Eh, I’ll put my money on next year.


Im sure next year will be great but 2020 when all these guys are like 27 and Rizzo is like 30 or 31 might be the true peak with Bryce Harper in RF.
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Re: John Mallee

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:21 pm

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Gmoney08 wrote:Also have to realize the core is still extremely young. The offense may not hit its peak for another 3 years.


Eh, I’ll put my money on next year.


Im sure next year will be great but 2020 when all these guys are like 27 and Rizzo is like 30 or 31 might be the true peak with Bryce Harper in RF.


Yeah I read that wrong and wanted to come off cool and cas, as the kids might still say. I’m looking forward to the post-2018/2019 FA super duper team very much, but I just have this feeling in my loins and heart that 2018 is going to be the horsefeathers again. They’ve got extremely meaty prime years coming up from the three best/MV players with Contreras and Bryant at 26, and Rizzo’s last year in the 20s. I wouldn’t be surprised to get real career years from all three.
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Postby NOLA » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:22 pm

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woodchip2153 wrote:Apparently I'm the only one who thinks the Cubs guess too much.

But let me just say I have no doubts the offense will be better next year and the team will be one of the best teams in baseball again. I just thought this my be a way they could improve.

Baseball players guess. You said yourself you only watch Cubs, so of course you are going to see "guessing" more from them than other teams. The team's approach is great.
The offense is great. It's not unstoppable but no lineup is.

Not to nitpick, but their approach really seemed to suck this postseason. Theo always preached about working counts and wearing staffs down. Game 7 against the Dodgers, KB saw a grand total of 10 pitches.
Derp, Game 5.
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Postby Derwood » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:40 pm

NOLA wrote:
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woodchip2153 wrote:Apparently I'm the only one who thinks the Cubs guess too much.

But let me just say I have no doubts the offense will be better next year and the team will be one of the best teams in baseball again. I just thought this my be a way they could improve.

Baseball players guess. You said yourself you only watch Cubs, so of course you are going to see "guessing" more from them than other teams. The team's approach is great.
The offense is great. It's not unstoppable but no lineup is.

Not to nitpick, but their approach really seemed to suck this postseason. Theo always preached about working counts and wearing staffs down. Game 7 against the Dodgers, KB saw a grand total of 10 pitches.
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In his career, opposing batters hit .295 of 0-0 pitches, and .336 on 2-0 pitches.

In 2017, they're hitting .300 on 0-0, and .467 on 2-0. He only had one 3-0 count all year, and you weren't hitting him on 2-1, or any 2 strike count.

In other words, it's better to swing early against Kershaw than to work the count.
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Postby LeonDurham » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:48 am

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It's like you don't know how playoff baseball works. The Indians last year went 2, 2, 4, 1, 3 in the ALCS and 6, 1, 1, 7, 2, 3 in the WS before Game 7. So two good offensive games out of 11.

We had a terrible series against the Mets in 2015. They also had 4 very good pitchers going. Those guys shut down a lot of teams. Last year we had two bad games against Kershaw and Hill but in the other 4 games they scored 8, 10, 8 and 5. Giants series they scored 1, 5, 5 and 6. WS was 0, 5, 0, 2, 3, 9, 8. Two bad games against Kluber and an inexplicably bad game against Tomlin. This year they got Strasburg twice, Scherzer, Kershaw twice, Hill, Darvish and Wood. When the worst starter you face is Gio Gonzalez, you faced a tough slate.

These things happen. Sometimes Kershaw shuts you out and sometimes you light him up for 5 runs to advance to the WS.



I completely understand the random nature of baseball and the crapshoot of the playoffs.

But I'm open minded to the fact that there might be ways to improve performance in the playoffs- high pressure situations against better pitchers. I don't completely discount the possibility that "clutch" hitting may exist and certain players might have better success through a better approach or better coaching.

Sure. It's easy to throw up your arms, point to all the runs scored against crap pitchers in 13-1 regular season games and say oh well. horsefeathers happens. We were just unlucky. But I hope the team doesn't feel that way. I want them to try and figure out how to get better.


If there's one team that struggles under the postseason pressure, it's gotta be the one with a bunch of 25 year olds who have been to the LCS 3 straight years.



Like everyone else here, I understand the concept of "sample size". But I'm also openminded about certain things that people often write off to "sample size". For instance "clutch". I'm just using "clutchness" as an example. And yes, I do believe "clutch" exists. http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit ... nce-081414

But the main point is that an improved approach and improvement of play should be coachable, shouldn't it? If not, then why have a hitting coach at all?

For instance, we know that KB, even as MVP, was horrible against the changeup, or a low breaking ball. If he improves this, he would likely not only become better against the low change, but probably against a high fastball as well. He would become an overall better player. And he would be less vulnerable to good pitchers go can throw those pitches effectively with control. The kind of good pitchers you might face in a postseason game.

And to the "guessing" question that has been raised. I don't know if they guess too much or not. But I'm open minded to the possibility that a coach may have an impact on strategy. For instance, this pitcher will attack you this way and we should think about doing this... Maybe this does help and maybe the Cubs are bad at this.

I don't pretend to know how baseball players are coached in terms of hitting. But I do understand that Maddon and his staff believe in a hands off approach. Players are discouraged to take BP and instead rest. Team meetings don't occur. Maybe 25 years olds need more instruction. And I'm not completely happy with the offense has performed. We can argue about clutchness or overall numbers. But one thing I'm not totally happy about is the improvement of the 25 year olds. And improvement should be coachable.

So I don't see why coaches shouldn't be accountable for performance of the players. We blame NFL coaches all the time for poor performances on the part of the players. John Fox was fired after Denver lost in the Super Bowl.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:31 am

LeonDurham wrote:John Fox was fired after Denver lost in the Super Bowl.


This seems like a...questionable example to end with.
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Postby Agony and Ivy » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:06 am

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Tim wrote:Let's put it this way: Can you name someone you think would be better than Mallee? What do you think is wrong with the approach that can be improved?


woodchip2153 wrote:It seems to me that they guess or predetermine if they will swing too much.


woodchip2153 wrote:I see the approach the hitters take, and I see room for improvement. They see lots of pitches and are patient, all good things. As has been pointed out they did this better than anyone else. With that said, too many times, in my opinion, the hitters get up in the count (or even first pitch) and sell out for a fastball and end up swinging at a pitch that is well out of the zone. Maybe this approach works more than I realize, because you don't notice when they guess correctly. But I see almost all of the players do it, so I assume it comes from the coaching staff. I don't like that approach, because I feel it can be exploited more by better pitching.


As far as specific names, I have no clue. I don't follow baseball closely enough to have specific names. Heck I can probably only name two hitting coaches in baseball, and that would just be guessing ex-cub coaches and Jacque Jones. Teams that I think have a good approach from what I've seen, the Astros, Brewers, Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Indians. But those are for the most part, just really good offenses with really good players. Again, I think the Cubs are in good hands, I just also think there might be room for improvement (see above).


the brewers rank in the bottom half of baseball in every meaningful offensive category except BB%, where they're 11th. let's cross them off the list of teams to emulate.


Holy horsefeathers another Vaunted Brewers truther? THE BREWERS horsefeathering SUCK. The Astros were historically good so if that's your bar you're going to be massively disappointed. The Diamondbacks? Get the horsefeathers out of here, they're not close to being as good as the Cubs. The Indians should probably fire everyone too because they didn't even make it out of the DS this year so they're clearly hopeless. The Dodgers got career years out of something called Chris Taylor and Austin Barnes. They'll be awesome again next year but we're right there with them even with production from guys like Taylor and Barnes.
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Postby David » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:07 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:
LeonDurham wrote:John Fox was fired after Denver lost in the Super Bowl.


This seems like a...questionable example to end with.

Especially since it's not true.

Well, not immediately following a loss in the SB, which is the only way that would be an interesting tidbit because I'm pretty sure coaches who have lost in a Super Bowl have been fired in later years before.
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David wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:
LeonDurham wrote:John Fox was fired after Denver lost in the Super Bowl.


This seems like a...questionable example to end with.

Especially since it's not true.

Well, not immediately following a loss in the SB, which is the only way that would be an interesting tidbit because I'm pretty sure coaches who have lost in a Super Bowl have been fired in later years before.



Marty shottenheimer then.

My point is we hold football coaches responsible when their players dont perform. We also hold them responsible for player development. Why not baseball coaches. All we do is question decision making as if it would've made a damn but of difference vs the dodgers or the mets in 2015.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:38 am

Well, the Cubs' player development has been very good.
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Postby Agony and Ivy » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:42 am

LeonDurham wrote:
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I completely understand the random nature of baseball and the crapshoot of the playoffs.

But I'm open minded to the fact that there might be ways to improve performance in the playoffs- high pressure situations against better pitchers. I don't completely discount the possibility that "clutch" hitting may exist and certain players might have better success through a better approach or better coaching.

Sure. It's easy to throw up your arms, point to all the runs scored against crap pitchers in 13-1 regular season games and say oh well. horsefeathers happens. We were just unlucky. But I hope the team doesn't feel that way. I want them to try and figure out how to get better.


If there's one team that struggles under the postseason pressure, it's gotta be the one with a bunch of 25 year olds who have been to the LCS 3 straight years.



Like everyone else here, I understand the concept of "sample size". But I'm also openminded about certain things that people often write off to "sample size". For instance "clutch". I'm just using "clutchness" as an example. And yes, I do believe "clutch" exists. http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit ... nce-081414

But the main point is that an improved approach and improvement of play should be coachable, shouldn't it? If not, then why have a hitting coach at all?

For instance, we know that KB, even as MVP, was horrible against the changeup, or a low breaking ball. If he improves this, he would likely not only become better against the low change, but probably against a high fastball as well. He would become an overall better player. And he would be less vulnerable to good pitchers go can throw those pitches effectively with control. The kind of good pitchers you might face in a postseason game.

And to the "guessing" question that has been raised. I don't know if they guess too much or not. But I'm open minded to the possibility that a coach may have an impact on strategy. For instance, this pitcher will attack you this way and we should think about doing this... Maybe this does help and maybe the Cubs are bad at this.

I don't pretend to know how baseball players are coached in terms of hitting. But I do understand that Maddon and his staff believe in a hands off approach. Players are discouraged to take BP and instead rest. Team meetings don't occur. Maybe 25 years olds need more instruction. And I'm not completely happy with the offense has performed. We can argue about clutchness or overall numbers. But one thing I'm not totally happy about is the improvement of the 25 year olds. And improvement should be coachable.

So I don't see why coaches shouldn't be accountable for performance of the players. We blame NFL coaches all the time for poor performances on the part of the players. John Fox was fired after Denver lost in the Super Bowl.


I don't think you actually understand small samples. How do you improve on an approach that led the league in walks and finished second in runs? One thing that hurt this team a ton is grounding into double plays. A lot of that is bad luck and Ben Zobrist. In 2016 the team had a 9.8 wGDP which was by far the best in baseball to -2.4 in 2017 which was 5th worst in baseball, with pretty much the same offense. That number will regress back towards league average next year unless 2016 was some kind of massive fluke.

A good changeup is the most devastating pitch in baseball because you really can't just practice hitting them. The reason they are so good is they are impossible to identify when they're kept down in the zone by major leaguers. In the minors, you'll see some guys slow their arm speed, but those guys don't make it to the show. Every player is going to have something they struggle with. For years, Mike Trout had trouble on fastballs up and in and he got better at hitting them or laying off them, but those are infinitely easier to identify out of the hand than a major league change. Kris Bryant is a damn near perfect player offensively, and Cubs fans need to pull their heads out of their asses regarding him. Barring injury he'll be the organizations greatest player of all time.

As far as guessing goes, what in the horsefeathers are you talking about? Again, their offense has been in the top 3 by almost every metric the last two years. Their "strategy" is fine and this is you reacting to something you claim to understand but clearly do not.

Pre-game batting practice and things like tee work and soft toss are terrible ways to train. First, pre-game BP is done with no intensity and anything that doesn't mimic game action isn't all together helpful. It's probably not harmful and for some guys it's part of their routine, but it doesn't do anything to make you a better hitter. Tee work and soft toss are dying because they are even worse than BP and do actually damage things like approach and contact skills. Plus, when you're half assing BP etc you're not using the same muscles and mechanics you'll use against a real live MLB pitcher. There is plenty of data out there you can dive into instead of using old tired baseball axioms, but basically you want guys to train using high levels of intent with explosive movements. None of that happens with traditional BP or tee work etc.

The Cubs (and most MLB teams) utilize a lot of data and hitting instruction driven by intent. Also, you're going to have to show your work on how clutch exists, and if it's a skill you should probably have an example of how you can train this skill, but I imagine it's just more not understanding the true nature of a small sample. As a team, they're non pitchers finished first in WPA in 2016 and were better in 2017, but managed to finish a measly third in baseball. So even your clutch narrative doesn't fit.

As far as accountability goes, you want to fire someone for a 10 game sample against some of the best pitchers in the league and not the 3 years of results he's already gotten out of his players. You also fail to mention they won the [expletive] World Series. Change for change's sake is what desperate and bad organizations do.
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i don't know how some of you guys have the energy to respond to these meatball opinions with walls of text anymore

hell, i don't even have the energy to do what cubsclapp/blogfines does on twitter
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Postby Agony and Ivy » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:53 am

David wrote:i don't know how some of you guys have the energy to respond to these meatball opinions with walls of text anymore

hell, i don't even have the energy to do what cubsclapp/blogfines does on twitter


I was bored tonight. Usually I can't take it and what Clapp does on Twitter is the lord's work.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:55 am

Harping on Bryant's hangup sometimes when it comes to changeups like it's something that a different hitting coach would address makes no sense. Like, it seems to be complaining like the Cubs haven't noticed this, or likely haven't tried any number of approaches to improve Bryant's approach in that regard. How does that seem logical at all? Sometimes these things just take time for a young player to finally adjust to. Sometimes good players just have holes in their approach. If teams want to try simply challenging him with changeups, hey, got nuts; he'll still annihilate the mistakes.
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David wrote:i don't know how some of you guys have the energy to respond to these meatball opinions with walls of text anymore

hell, i don't even have the energy to do what cubsclapp/blogfines does on twitter


Oh God, Matt runs laps around anything going on in these threads. He's got meatballs coming at him 24/7.
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Postby Agony and Ivy » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:04 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:Harping on Bryant's hangup sometimes when it comes to changeups like it's something that a different hitting coach would address makes no sense. Like, it seems to be complaining like the Cubs haven't noticed this, or likely haven't tried any number of approaches to improve Bryant's approach in that regard. How does that seem logical at all? Sometimes these things just take time for a young player to finally adjust to. Sometimes good players just have holes in their approach. If teams want to try simply challenging him with changeups, hey, got nuts; he'll still annihilate the mistakes.


Changeups are just hard to mimic in a training setting especially MLB caliber ones.
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Agony and Ivy wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:Harping on Bryant's hangup sometimes when it comes to changeups like it's something that a different hitting coach would address makes no sense. Like, it seems to be complaining like the Cubs haven't noticed this, or likely haven't tried any number of approaches to improve Bryant's approach in that regard. How does that seem logical at all? Sometimes these things just take time for a young player to finally adjust to. Sometimes good players just have holes in their approach. If teams want to try simply challenging him with changeups, hey, got nuts; he'll still annihilate the mistakes.


Changeups are just hard to mimic in a training setting especially MLB caliber ones.


Yeah, I just don't know what he thinks a new hitting coach would be able to do so much differently.
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Postby LeonDurham » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:24 am

Agony and Ivy wrote: Kris Bryant is a damn near perfect player offensively



This is where we disagree. He's not. And as good as he is, he has flaws and he can get better. As many 24-25 year olds do. Even Barry Bonds or Mike Trout.

And I'm not sure coaching is the answer. But how are you guys so sure coaching isn't the answer? The Cubs fired Bosio when you'd think Arrieta alone would've been worth some job security. And the historic 2016 pitching season.


And I love it how everyone likes to use the word "meatball" so freely to describe any opinion that differs from theirs. And ridicule their opinions. This is so horsefeathering condescending and disdainful. God, how annoying is it when people throw around the term "meatball" here.

Some people think they are so horsefeathering smart on an internet message board. For all I know, you guys who like to call other people meatball live in your parents basement. I know I don't.
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Postby Agony and Ivy » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:53 am

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Agony and Ivy wrote: Kris Bryant is a damn near perfect player offensively



This is where we disagree. He's not. And as good as he is, he has flaws and he can get better. As many 24-25 year olds do. Even Barry Bonds or Mike Trout.

And I'm not sure coaching is the answer. But how are you guys so sure coaching isn't the answer? The Cubs fired Bosio when you'd think Arrieta alone would've been worth some job security. And the historic 2016 pitching season.


And I love it how everyone likes to use the word "meatball" so freely to describe any opinion that differs from theirs. And ridicule their opinions. This is so horsefeathering condescending and disdainful. God, how annoying is it when people throw around the term "meatball" here.

Some people think they are so horsefeathering smart on an internet message board. For all I know, you guys who like to call other people meatball live in your parents basement. I know I don't.


Well when you have nothing to backup your argument it's usually because it's uninformed and meatball opinions tend to be uninformed.

Bryant has posted wRC+ numbers of 136, 148 and 146 in his first three seasons in the Major Leagues. He's improved every important offensive statistic every season he's been up. K-rates have dropped from 30.6% to 22% to 19.2%. BB-rates have improved from 11.8% to 14.3% with a slight dip in year two to 10.7%. OBP has increased every year from .369 to .385 to .409. He's been a top 10 hitter since the moment he debuted, so yes he's as close to perfect you can get. Since his debut one player has produced more fWAR than him and that's Trout.

Bryant was also above average against changeups this year, so I'll need you to explain the flaws you think you see.

Also, comping Bosio to Mallee is not even close to the same since the Cubs offense has been upper echelon the last two seasons while multiple pitchers took steps back this year under Bosio. So that's a false equivalency.
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LeonDurham wrote:And I love it how everyone likes to use the word "meatball" so freely to describe any opinion that differs from theirs. And ridicule their opinions. This is so horsefeathering condescending and disdainful. God, how annoying is it when people throw around the term "meatball" here.

Some people think they are so horsefeathering smart on an internet message board. For all I know, you guys who like to call other people meatball live in your parents basement. I know I don't.

I have a modest 5 bedroom house roughly 90 miles from where my parents live, thank you very much. take a hike, you big dumb turd.
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