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Chris Bosio Fired

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:58 pm



Wow.
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Re: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:59 pm

Wow
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Re: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby TruffleShuffle » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:59 pm

sure wouldn't think that bosio will be looking for work very long.
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Re: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby Agony and Ivy » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:02 pm

Not a fan of this move at all and seems like a knee jerk reaction to the October pen issues.
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Re: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:06 pm

I'm surprised.

If you want to craft a narrative, Bosio made the org look bad with the accusations he made about Molina and especially Thames early in the season. Theo did mention organizational issues related to the number of walks given up, so maybe Bosio wasn't on the same page. Contreras being a newer catcher and calling so many games seems like a significant factor though. That alone doesn't strike me as 'get rid of him' material, and maybe there's a bit of a Renteria-esque scenario with Maddon's former pitching coach now on the market, but probably more to it than we can publicly deduce.
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Postby TruffleShuffle » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:06 pm

Agony and Ivy wrote:Not a fan of this move at all and seems like a knee jerk reaction to the October pen issues.


it's a knee jerk reaction to the fact that maddon's buddy jim hickey is no longer the rays' pitching coach.
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Re: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby Old Style » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:06 pm

Wasn't expecting this.
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby davell » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:16 pm

WOW indeed. And yeah, seems like this is related to Hickey to me.
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby d_money » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:17 pm

I always looked forward to his candor in the weekly interviews on the Score.
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby CubinNY » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:25 pm

I sure hope this isn't a Joe-wanting-his-own-guy thing.
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby Bryant's Disco Ball » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:27 pm

It was all downhill after he couldn't fix Eddie Butler.
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby UMFan83 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:28 pm

Wow. In Theo we trust but I have a hard time justifying this call. I get the reasons that have been mentioned but the dude was the pitching coach when Jeff Samardzija turned from a fringe pen arm into a player valuable enough to make the All Star team and be traded for a top 5 prospect, when Jake Arrieta found a way to turn his great stuff into a Cy Young winner, and a fringe prospect that throws 90 mph into a reasonable facimile of Greg Maddux.

I definitely think the Molina/Thames things was a factor but by far not the deciding reasoning.
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby Duke Silver » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:35 pm

Everyone who wanted the hitting coach to take the fall:

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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby The Logan » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:38 pm

If this is a Jim Hickey thing, how is he compared to Bosio?
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby UMFan83 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:45 pm

The Logan wrote:If this is a Jim Hickey thing, how is he compared to Bosio?

Aka how many 5+ ERA career guys had he turned into Cy young winners?
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:47 pm

Wow. I don't like this.
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:56 pm

Refresh mu memory: what did Bisio say about molina?
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby Duke Silver » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:57 pm

Definitely a little strange. I don't like it. But I also don't know if I should care.

I thought Bosio was a great pitching coach. But, then again, all of our pitchers started throwing 4 mph slower this year and we walked like 7 per 9 innings. So what the hell does he know?

I'm honestly not sure how much affect hitting and pitching coaches have. I think having good organizational approaches is important. And it's obviously better to have a pitching coach who is more knowledgeable. But all of that work is done behind the scenes, so it's hard for us to know exactly how significant a coach's impact is. You can look at results, but that's a fool's errand.

So I'm not a huge fan of this move, but I'm not going to get too worked up about it.
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby jersey cubs fan » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:02 pm

That's how you tell arrieta he's not getting a contract
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby SouthSideRyan » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:08 pm

Had to make room for David Ross.
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:09 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:Refresh mu memory: what did Bisio say about molina?


He carried on about how the ball sticking to his chest protector was cheating, and also suggested the fix was in with the signs behind home plate (recall Baez losing a ground ball in them)
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby David » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:14 pm

holy crap

i had a suspicion this might happen when theo was on the score a few days ago (not the post mortem presser) talking about how our pitching approach would probably have to fundamentally change in terms of throwing so many chase pitches (or something along those lines). it seemed like a broad stroke type of statement and not just about the last few games.

then on top of that there was the whole thing with the suspensions
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby David » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:17 pm

d_money wrote:I always looked forward to his candor in the weekly interviews on the Score.


really? i'd always cringe when i'd happen to hear those. they were so bad and he didn't really say anything. just a grumpy dude who sounded like he didn't even want to be awake yet.
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Re: Bob Nightengale: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby davell » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:17 pm

Am I imagining it or did Maddon just say a few days ago that he wanted everyone back? Could have swore he said that.
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Re: Chris Bosio Fired

Postby David » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:17 pm

Agony and Ivy wrote:Not a fan of this move at all and seems like a knee jerk reaction to the October pen issues.


don't know if it's a good move or not or if it'll change anything, but the walking too many dudes thing was a season long issue
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