It’s not me, it’s Yu

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Postby MarkR » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:23 am

Seriously. He needs to retire. Don't want to deal with this horsefeathers for 5 more years.
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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby Derwood » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:25 am

MarkR wrote:Seriously. He needs to retire. Don't want to deal with this horsefeathers for 5 more years.


So you want to pay millions towards the LT with absolutely nothing to show for it?
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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby javy knows my name » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:36 am

Derwood wrote:
MarkR wrote:Seriously. He needs to retire. Don't want to deal with this horsefeathers for 5 more years.


So you want to pay millions towards the LT with absolutely nothing to show for it?


If he retires, he forfeits his remaining years, right?

Either way, I think jamfan or whatever blushed at that overreaction
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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby Derwood » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:45 am

javy knows my name wrote:If he retires, he forfeits his remaining years, right?


Looks that way:

Typically, if a player retires 100% voluntarily, his salary will end as soon as he has received the full amount earned. For example, a Major League Baseball player earns his salary during the baseball season (which ends in September or October), but he may be on a 12-month salary payment schedule, so if he retires at the end of the season, he'll keep getting paychecks through the end of December. If he retires mid-season and it is 100% voluntary, his salary will be pro-rated.

If he retires due to injury, or if he is released by his club due to diminished skills (including those caused by injury), then the terms of his contract and collective bargaining agreement will control what happens. An injured player or even just a released player who has a guaranteed contract for five years will typically get paid for five years even if his injury occurred in year 1 of the contract.

A player without any guarantees in his contract or collective bargaining agreement will generally not get paid past the date of his release.
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Postby Bryant's Disco Ball » Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:03 am

Gil Meche actually did that a while back, retiring and giving up like $12 million.
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Not saying it will happen, but the Cubs coming back from a 3-1 deficit to win the World Series does seem like the appropriate way to cap off this season and make the 30-for-30 even better.

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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby soccer10k » Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:19 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/1022955103140159488



Well they haven't ruled him out for the year yet so from that standpoint it's a positive.
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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby Cubswin11 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:33 am

MarkR wrote:Seriously. He needs to retire. Don't want to deal with this horsefeathers for 5 more years.

Seriously he’s winning playoff games for us
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Postby 17 Seconds » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:09 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:


translation: i hope you guys are happy with cole hamels
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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby jehr » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:40 am

Maybe Yu's just following the example set by Roger Clemens at the end of his career. If you only throw half the season, you can make it to the playoffs and still be fresh.
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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby Bryant's Disco Ball » Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:53 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
MarkR wrote:Seriously. He needs to retire. Don't want to deal with this horsefeathers for 5 more years.

Seriously he’s winning playoff games for us


You sneaky bastard. You didn’t specify which year.
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Not saying it will happen, but the Cubs coming back from a 3-1 deficit to win the World Series does seem like the appropriate way to cap off this season and make the 30-for-30 even better.

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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby ScrubMD » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:58 am

Derwood wrote:
javy knows my name wrote:If he retires, he forfeits his remaining years, right?


Looks that way:

Typically, if a player retires 100% voluntarily, his salary will end as soon as he has received the full amount earned. For example, a Major League Baseball player earns his salary during the baseball season (which ends in September or October), but he may be on a 12-month salary payment schedule, so if he retires at the end of the season, he'll keep getting paychecks through the end of December. If he retires mid-season and it is 100% voluntary, his salary will be pro-rated.

If he retires due to injury, or if he is released by his club due to diminished skills (including those caused by injury), then the terms of his contract and collective bargaining agreement will control what happens. An injured player or even just a released player who has a guaranteed contract for five years will typically get paid for five years even if his injury occurred in year 1 of the contract.

A player without any guarantees in his contract or collective bargaining agreement will generally not get paid past the date of his release.


You thought a player could retire in the first year of a 6 year contract and get paid for all 6 years?
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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby Derwood » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:18 pm

I thought it depended on the circumstances of the retirement
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Postby d_money » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:38 pm

Derwood wrote:I thought it depended on the circumstances of the retirement

The players union would throw a horsefeathers fit if he retired voluntarily.
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Postby Bertz » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:19 am



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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby champaignchris » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:05 am

The main thing that bothered me about that whole ARod rant is that it made it sound like the Cubs passed on trying to resign Arrieta in favor of Darvish, when multiple sources - including Arrieta himself - have said that the Cubs offered Arrieta significantly more in guaranteed money than he ended up signing for before the Cubs signed Darvish.

The only reason Arrieta isn’t a Cub is because Arrieta didn’t want to be a Cub. I dislike the rewriting of history to make it so the Cubs messed up by choosing Darvish over Arrieta.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:10 pm



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Postby The_Achiever » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:17 pm

champaignchris wrote:The main thing that bothered me about that whole ARod rant is that it made it sound like the Cubs passed on trying to resign Arrieta in favor of Darvish, when multiple sources - including Arrieta himself - have said that the Cubs offered Arrieta significantly more in guaranteed money than he ended up signing for before the Cubs signed Darvish.

The only reason Arrieta isn’t a Cub is because Arrieta didn’t want to be a Cub. I dislike the rewriting of history to make it so the Cubs messed up by choosing Darvish over Arrieta.


I don't follow, was it a money thing or were there other reasons he didn't want to be a Cub? Seems like he and his family really enjoyed being with the organization.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:35 pm

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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby PackLandVA » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:36 pm

From MLB Trade Rumors


Arrieta, who ultimately signed with the Philadelphia organization later in the winter, tells Wittenmyer that he does not really believe that Epstein expected to get a deal done when he called with a “take it or leave it” proposal of six years and $120MM. That statement reflects previous reporting on the perceptions of both sides to that conversation.

While he emphasized that he harbors no ill will at all toward Epstein or the Cubs organization, Arrieta says that approach was a non-starter, even though he had yet to receive a formal contract offer to that point:

“[T]hey weren’t willing to negotiate at all, and that wasn’t acceptable for me,” Arrieta tells Wittenmyer. “I bet on myself just like I have my entire career and ended up getting a good deal.”


There's more to the story after the paragraphs above.
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Postby weis21 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:04 pm



(plus Smyly news since it was being discussed on the board yesterday)
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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby Brian » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:59 pm

Treat all arm issues with treatment to the spine from now on.


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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby Cubswin11 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:34 pm

Seems really promising info today on Yu. Obviously there’s still some obstacles to overcome to get back and he’s still a stupid pitcher and they do stupid things to break all the time but it really seems like he’s going to be back sooner than later and I’m ready for him to shove.

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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:46 pm

stupid pitchers
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Postby Brian » Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:49 pm

#thoughtsandprayers

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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby 17 Seconds » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:33 am

imagine how cool it would be if returned and dominated down the stretch and in the playoffs

then realize that it still would only be like 25% as cool as what schwarber did
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