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Postby Brian707 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:21 pm

See Yu in 2020
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Postby Irrelevant Dude » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:22 pm

Are we entering the realm of another TJS now?

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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:23 pm

So that big dinner he bought was actually some kind of last meal for his arm, right?
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Postby The_Achiever » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:35 pm

With Yu & Chatwalk's respective struggles, Theo should kick the tires on ol' Teeth McLackey.
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Postby Andy » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:37 pm

F pitchers always and forever.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:47 pm

rip yu deadvish
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Postby UMFan83 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:52 pm

Let's just force him to get TJS even if its not necessary so that we can make the necessary moves for this season without his return being in question.
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Postby Brian707 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:53 pm

The_Achiever wrote:With Yu & Chatwalk's respective struggles, Theo should kick the tires on ol' Teeth McLackey.



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Postby Perd » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:58 pm

Who’s going to deliver his Yulogy?
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:26 pm

pain? like the haunting memories of lost love?

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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:22 pm

Yu is gonna be fine, he probably was just reading the board lately thinking the season was over and decided to pack it in. Now that we are good he’ll be back.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:29 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:Yu is gonna be fine, he probably was just reading the bird lately


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Postby Derwood » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:33 pm

The day the Yu-sic died
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Postby treebird » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:40 pm

Derwood wrote:The day the Yu-sic died


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Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:41 am

can we go back to early 2017 when we sucked, but we still had money and eloy to fix the rotation? it's insane how badly we whiffed on the new pitchers.
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17 Seconds wrote:can we go back to early 2017 when we sucked, but we still had money and eloy to fix the rotation? it's insane how badly we whiffed on the new pitchers.

We got to the NLCS last year a good chunk due to Q and I mean what else was there to do this offseason? Legit asking? Do nothing last year and miss the playoffs and then trade Eloy for Cole? We still need two other starters.
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Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:04 am

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17 Seconds wrote:can we go back to early 2017 when we sucked, but we still had money and eloy to fix the rotation? it's insane how badly we whiffed on the new pitchers.

We got to the NLCS last year a good chunk due to Q and I mean what else was there to do this offseason? Legit asking? Do nothing last year and miss the playoffs and then trade Eloy for Cole? We still need two other starters.


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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:09 am

17 Seconds wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
17 Seconds wrote:can we go back to early 2017 when we sucked, but we still had money and eloy to fix the rotation? it's insane how badly we whiffed on the new pitchers.

We got to the NLCS last year a good chunk due to Q and I mean what else was there to do this offseason? Legit asking? Do nothing last year and miss the playoffs and then trade Eloy for Cole? We still need two other starters.


holy horsefeathers are you serious

Yes. Given who was available at the times we needed to make moves what are the trades or FA signings you’d do?

I’m not arguing to date they’ve worked out to what we wished but what are the other moves. We needed 3 starters last year at this time.
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Re: It’s not me, it’s Yu

Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:14 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
17 Seconds wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:We got to the NLCS last year a good chunk due to Q and I mean what else was there to do this offseason? Legit asking? Do nothing last year and miss the playoffs and then trade Eloy for Cole? We still need two other starters.


holy horsefeathers are you serious

Yes. Given who was available at the times we needed to make moves what are the trades or FA signings you’d do?

I’m not arguing to date they’ve worked out to what we wished but what are the other moves. We needed 3 starters last year at this time.


your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.
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Postby Tim » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:37 am

17 Seconds wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
17 Seconds wrote:
holy horsefeathers are you serious

Yes. Given who was available at the times we needed to make moves what are the trades or FA signings you’d do?

I’m not arguing to date they’ve worked out to what we wished but what are the other moves. We needed 3 starters last year at this time.


your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.

Q was a very good trade, even though we gave up a lot.

I was pissed at the time and I'm still pissed that we missed out on Verlander, though. Get Verlander and Q last summer and things could have been different both last fall and this year.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:48 am

17 Seconds wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
17 Seconds wrote:
holy horsefeathers are you serious

Yes. Given who was available at the times we needed to make moves what are the trades or FA signings you’d do?

I’m not arguing to date they’ve worked out to what we wished but what are the other moves. We needed 3 starters last year at this time.


your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.

My question makes perfect sense and you know it. They made the best possible moves with the resources and information they had with the reasonably available guys at the time of need to not only make the playoffs and get a few wins from another WS last year to adding the best possible FAs this year.

Yes they’ve been let downs this year but there’s really no realistic alternatives outside of really Monday morning quarterbacking it. Unless you were perfectly fine with punting last year and adding no best option pitchers this offseason and hoping someone else would be available via trade come this deadline.

It’s a process vs results thing mostly for me. I’m very fine with the process of the additions but the results have been lacking.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:52 am

Tim wrote:
17 Seconds wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:Yes. Given who was available at the times we needed to make moves what are the trades or FA signings you’d do?

I’m not arguing to date they’ve worked out to what we wished but what are the other moves. We needed 3 starters last year at this time.


your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.

Q was a very good trade, even though we gave up a lot.

I was pissed at the time and I'm still pissed that we missed out on Verlander, though. Get Verlander and Q last summer and things could have been different both last fall and this year.

Verlander stings but at the same time we have no idea what they were asking and he was still a 33/34 year old pitcher who was owed over $60 million at the time he was traded
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Postby Tim » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:54 am

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Tim wrote:
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your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.

Q was a very good trade, even though we gave up a lot.

I was pissed at the time and I'm still pissed that we missed out on Verlander, though. Get Verlander and Q last summer and things could have been different both last fall and this year.

Verlander stings but at the same time we have no idea what they were asking and he was still a 33/34 year old pitcher who was owed over $60 million at the time he was traded

I don't think it takes a whole lot of monday morning qb'ing to question that one, though. It probably means they make the Chatwood move, but not the Darvish move. But that still leaves us better off.

Clearly they valued Houston's package more. But Detroit's return wasn't a blockbuster we couldn't have competed with. We chose not to match.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:01 am

Tim wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
Tim wrote:Q was a very good trade, even though we gave up a lot.

I was pissed at the time and I'm still pissed that we missed out on Verlander, though. Get Verlander and Q last summer and things could have been different both last fall and this year.

Verlander stings but at the same time we have no idea what they were asking and he was still a 33/34 year old pitcher who was owed over $60 million at the time he was traded

I don't think it takes a whole lot of monday morning qb'ing to question that one, though. It probably means they make the Chatwood move, but not the Darvish move. But that still leaves us better off.

Clearly they valued Houston's package more. But Detroit's return wasn't a blockbuster we couldn't have competed with. We chose not to match.

I think I still would rather do Darvish at 6/120 at 31 YO than Verlander at 2.5/60+ + an option year that vests for another 20+ at 34 YO. If I were asked what I preferred at the time of the Verlander trade last year.
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Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:08 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
17 Seconds wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:Yes. Given who was available at the times we needed to make moves what are the trades or FA signings you’d do?

I’m not arguing to date they’ve worked out to what we wished but what are the other moves. We needed 3 starters last year at this time.


your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.

My question makes perfect sense and you know it. They made the best possible moves with the resources and information they had with the reasonably available guys at the time of need to not only make the playoffs and get a few wins from another WS last year to adding the best possible FAs this year.

Yes they’ve been let downs this year but there’s really no realistic alternatives outside of really Monday morning quarterbacking it. Unless you were perfectly fine with punting last year and adding no best option pitchers this offseason and hoping someone else would be available via trade come this deadline.

It’s a process vs results thing mostly for me. I’m very fine with the process of the additions but the results have been lacking.


i made a post saying i wish we could have a do-over on some whiffs (and yes, i think quintana is a whiff so far), and you're basically saying "oh yeah, what moves did YOU have lined up?". i've said nothing about the process or how the trades appeared at the time. i'm saying i wish they hadn't turned out like this. you have no point. i don't know what you're doing.
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