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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby David » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:25 pm

so does this replace the comcast stuff?

comcast has kruetz, briggs, alex brown, and i think some others i might be forgetting (forte?)

i wonder who they will get as on air talent, bears-wise, if they can't get those guys
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:39 pm

how do nfl rules demand a black out of talk shows out of market?
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby Irrelevant Dude » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:20 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:how do nfl rules demand a black out of talk shows out of market?

I think that has more to do with the re-aired game broadcasts.
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby David » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:27 pm

Irrelevant Dude wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:how do nfl rules demand a black out of talk shows out of market?

I think that has more to do with the re-aired game broadcasts.


it says "these shows" but maybe they were just sloppy with wording
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:40 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:how do nfl rules demand a black out of talk shows out of market?

Maybe to keep the National shows on NFLN and the ESPN/Fox/CBS/NBC channels who pay for national rights happy and get more viewers on them? Idk, it’s dumb. But maybe something protect their big national partners and keep more eyes/ad dollars on them.
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby UMFan83 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:02 pm

David wrote:so does this replace the comcast stuff?

comcast has kruetz, briggs, alex brown, and i think some others i might be forgetting (forte?)

i wonder who they will get as on air talent, bears-wise, if they can't get those guys


I could be wrong but I don't think so. It doesn't sound like Marquee is going to air a postgame show, and they already announced the host of the weekly recap show is one of the dudes already working at Marquee (name escapes me). I don't think NBC Sports had any sort of exclusive right to air Bears-related shows since there are Bears recap shows on NBC and Fox (and maybe elsewhere) on Sunday nights.
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby SouthSideRyan » Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:03 pm

In addition to people liking Dempster, they'd like to see Sutcliffe on post-game, so horsefeathers everyone.
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby UMFan83 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:06 pm

SouthSideRyan wrote:In addition to people liking Dempster, they'd like to see Sutcliffe on post-game, so horsefeathers everyone.


I hate Dempster the person but he actually had some good insights IMO when he was subbing as color man. That said, I hate the 3 man booth
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby UMFan83 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:56 am

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Someone posted this on Reddit. Not sure if we knew yet how much Comcast rates would go up yet.
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby squally1313 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:59 pm

Spending years putting together a network and then essentially abandoning it as soon as you accomplish that goal and get everyone on the hook for $6/month seems like a pretty solid metaphor for the rest of this organization.
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby Banedon » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:21 pm

squally1313 wrote:Spending years putting together a network and then essentially abandoning it as soon as you accomplish that goal and get everyone on the hook for $6/month seems like a pretty solid metaphor for the rest of this organization.


Abandoning it? What did I miss?
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby TarzanJoeWallis » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:43 pm

squally1313 wrote:Spending years putting together a network and then essentially abandoning it as soon as you accomplish that goal and get everyone on the hook for $6/month seems like a pretty solid metaphor for the rest of this organization.

How was it abandoned?
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby squally1313 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:44 pm

'Abandon' isn't the right word, but it was more convenient than 'very clearly half-assing it'. Not showing Theo's presser at the end of the year, coming up with the bare minimum of coverage/analysis around the games, etc. To be fair, I haven't even thought about pulling it up since September, but get the strong impression I'm not missing anything.
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby Andy » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:48 pm

squally1313 wrote:'Abandon' isn't the right word, but it was more convenient than 'very clearly half-assing it'. Not showing Theo's presser at the end of the year, coming up with the bare minimum of coverage/analysis around the games, etc. To be fair, I haven't even thought about pulling it up since September, but get the strong impression I'm not missing anything.

I read somewhere that MLB has rules against showing Zoom press conferences live (why, I have no idea, but it would explain why it wasn't aired live).

As for the game-adjacent content, we have no idea what might have been planned pre-pandemic. I wasn't thrilled with most of the in-game stuff (Taylor McGregor spending multiple games showing off old memorabilia that no one cares about was pretty painful), but I imagine when we're post-pandemic, the coverage will improve.
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby Forgotmyoldlogin » Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:59 pm

Hulu Live is dropping Marquee.
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:18 pm

Forgotmyoldlogin wrote:Hulu Live is dropping Marquee.

First Quibi, now Marquee. Where does the madness end?
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby Thurman Merman » Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:28 pm

Forgotmyoldlogin wrote:Hulu Live is dropping Marquee.

Dammit, really?
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby Andy » Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:26 pm

Thurman Merman wrote:
Forgotmyoldlogin wrote:Hulu Live is dropping Marquee.

Dammit, really?

It'll probably be back. Everyone is dropping the RSNs right now because other than the occasional college football game, they're literally not airing anything anyone would watch until at least January when the NBA is supposedly coming back.
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby Bertz » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:17 pm

I guess from a business sense, I don't get the downside here for the Cubs. You partnered with Sinclair to get your network up and running and to get carriage as wide as possible. Check and check. I believe most of the people managing the day to day operations are CSN and WGN castoffs, not people Sinclair would take with them.
The carriage deals are locked in now except for Hulu and YouTube. Shouldn't the Cubs be ecstatic to kick Sinclair to the curb at this point?
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:34 pm

Bertz wrote:I guess from a business sense, I don't get the downside here for the Cubs. You partnered with Sinclair to get your network up and running and to get carriage as wide as possible. Check and check. I believe most of the people managing the day to day operations are CSN and WGN castoffs, not people Sinclair would take with them.
The carriage deals are locked in now except for Hulu and YouTube. Shouldn't the Cubs be ecstatic to kick Sinclair to the curb at this point?

I'd guess there's still a ton of industry specific knowledge Sinclair brings. Now apparently Kenney wanted the Cubs to do it on their own before. What would be interesting is if the Cubs have any sort of right of first refusal or anything like that and the capital and motivation to make that happen and just take back Sinclair's half. Or if they just have the power to pressure a sale to a strategic partner they'd like.

Its certainly looking more and more like the market on the carrier side just really sucks for these RSNs. Direct-consumer model looks more and more likely (but the blackout hurdle is still large)
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby David » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:15 am

my internet at home is no longer recognizing my location as being in the cubs territory when i try to sign in through my provider. (I was trying to set it up on a new TV)

i'm in evanston. obviously in territory. didn't let me sign in on the new tv and now when i try to do the same on my laptop and phone, it doesn't work (and it used to).

Anyone else have a problem like this or any suggestions? I have a feeling that I wouldn't get far and would just get a bunch of finger pointing at each other if I called customer support for any of the companies involved
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Re: Cubs TV broadcast rights

Postby UMFan83 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:56 pm

squally1313 wrote:'Abandon' isn't the right word, but it was more convenient than 'very clearly half-assing it'. Not showing Theo's presser at the end of the year, coming up with the bare minimum of coverage/analysis around the games, etc. To be fair, I haven't even thought about pulling it up since September, but get the strong impression I'm not missing anything.


In a promising development, I noticed yesterday that Marquee aired an hour long "Cy Young Announcement Special" for Yu Darvish featuring a bunch of people including Rick Sutcliffe, Tommy Hottovy and Len/JD talking about the voting results and breaking down Yu's season
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