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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby mul21 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:29 pm

big ball chunky time wrote:looks real good against AA hitters, but major leaguers just don't swing at them


You saw the one that was a called strike right? And sure big leaguers don't swing at them. Right.
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Postby big ball chunky time » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:46 pm

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big ball chunky time wrote:looks real good against AA hitters, but major leaguers just don't swing at them


You saw the one that was a called strike right? And sure big leaguers don't swing at them. Right.


he has 11 walks in as many innings in the big leagues. His WHIP is 2.25.

You don't throw a slider for strikes, you throw it in the dirt when you already have 2 strikes on a hitter or are at least in a pitcher's count. Since he can't command any other pitch, when he faces a big league hitter he rarely gets in a pitcher's count and actual major leaguers know they can just spit on anything that looks like a slider.

anyone with a good slider is going to have a nice highlight reel given enough time, but you gotta be able to command another pitcher for it to be of use.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:48 pm

He's still young enough to be patient with IMO. When he breaks out he has elite potential.
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Postby big ball chunky time » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:49 pm

he's 27
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:16 pm

We Got The Whole 9 wrote:He's still young enough to be patient with IMO. When he breaks out he has elite potential.


Dude's pitched just shy of 300 innings mostly as a reliever over the last 7 years. The odds of him figuring it out t be consistently useful, much less elite, are pretty slim.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:33 pm

It literally happens every year in some capacity that a 28 year old journeyman breaks out. Hell Kirby Yates used his elite slider to do just that at the ripe age of 31 last year.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:35 pm

big ball chunky time wrote:he's 27

younger than you dude
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Postby big ball chunky time » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:36 pm

Yates BB/9 in AA and AAA
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Maples BB/9 in AA and AAA
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Bull » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:41 pm

WIth a profile like Maples', I think the line between "effectively wild" and "control issues" is a fine one. Once he is "feared," I think major leaguers swing at those. But until he's proven that they could be strikes, there's no motivation to offer at them.
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Postby Brian » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:52 pm

another way to look at that video - "wow those are some cool looking sliders"
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Bluescale » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:07 pm

big ball chunky time wrote:looks real good against AA hitters, but major leaguers just don't swing at them


He's averaging close to 2k per inning in his ultra-small MLB sample size. Big leaguers swing at them and miss. He just needs more consistency with his other pitches to set that up.
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Postby big ball chunky time » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:24 pm

Bluescale wrote:
big ball chunky time wrote:looks real good against AA hitters, but major leaguers just don't swing at them


He's averaging close to 2k per inning in his ultra-small MLB sample size. Big leaguers swing at them and miss. He just needs more consistency with his other pitches to set that up.


21 percent o-swing last year and career 31 percent swing rate, rick ankiel, the year he was knoblauching himself, had percentages of 32 and 54
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby PackLandVA » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:09 pm

The second and fourth pitches in that sequence look pretty legit.
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:34 pm

big ball chunky time wrote:Yates BB/9 in AA and AAA
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Maples BB/9 in AA and AAA
7 (!)
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9(!!)
Even so, 27 is not old.
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Re: RE: Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:36 pm

We Got The Whole 9 wrote:
big ball chunky time wrote:Yates BB/9 in AA and AAA
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Maples BB/9 in AA and AAA
7 (!)
5
9(!!)
Even so, 27 is not old.

for a lawyer, no.
For a baseball player who is not yet good, yes it is.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Stu » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:43 pm

so Hammels hits a hole-in-one and then a HR..

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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:40 pm

This would be interesting

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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Deeg » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:10 am

Absent a better lefty option I'd as soon have seen Webster get that spot.

The key pieces here are Kintzler and Brach. Both are on the roster because of guaranteed money, period. If they're both bad - which is highly possible - the Cubs are going to be on the clock in terms of cutting bait on one or both of them.
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Postby Regular Show » Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:14 pm

Brian wrote:


That's just nasty and unfair if he can command and spot it.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Old Style » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:27 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/carriemuskat/status/1110342016448102400?s=21

Correct me if I’m wrong but there are three former Rangers in that rotation. Two of them will start in their former home.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Brian » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:53 pm

Deeg wrote:Absent a better lefty option I'd as soon have seen Webster get that spot.

The key pieces here are Kintzler and Brach. Both are on the roster because of guaranteed money, period. If they're both bad - which is highly possible - the Cubs are going to be on the clock in terms of cutting bait on one or both of them.


Webster to AAA was likely the best move long-term. He can go to AAA now, but if he'd made the team he couldn't be optioned to AAA without be exposed to waivers. I'm assuming they are hoping to Swap Cedeno for Rosario soon. And then Barnette and Morrow are waiting in the wings also, which is when they may have to make some dead weight cuts.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Thed Hoyerstein » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:04 pm

the best cubs addition of the offseason

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