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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Regular Show » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:15 am


Nothing really revelatory in here. They talk about the farm system and the changes in player development. They mention the D'backs as a team the Cubs could emulate that is both competing and rebuilding the farm at the same time. The D'backs have traded some good players to bolster their farm system so it's not a totally accurate comparison.
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Postby Backtobanks » Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:05 pm

Latest Forbes report says Cubs are worth $3.2 Billion, not a bad return on spending $845 million in 2009. So why did we have to sit out this offseason free agency?
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Postby UMFan83 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:31 pm

Backtobanks wrote:Latest Forbes report says Cubs are worth $3.2 Billion, not a bad return on spending $845 million in 2009. So why did we have to sit out this offseason free agency?


something something cost overruns and future luxury tax penalties
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Postby ConstableRabbit » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:56 pm

Backtobanks wrote:Latest Forbes report says Cubs are worth $3.2 Billion, not a bad return on spending $845 million in 2009. So why did we have to sit out this offseason free agency?

There are many ways to answer your question, but the $3.2B figure isn't the best. It's not a "return," it's a valuation.

A simplified example is you buy a house for $100k. You do some renovations for $20k over a 10 year period. Over that timeframe, the real estate market heats up and the neighborhood becomes more valuable. Today, a real estate agent tells you that the house is worth $150k. This fact alone doesn't change your income or cash position.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby chopsx9 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:04 pm

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Backtobanks wrote:Latest Forbes report says Cubs are worth $3.2 Billion, not a bad return on spending $845 million in 2009. So why did we have to sit out this offseason free agency?

There are many ways to answer your question, but the $3.2B figure isn't the best. It's not a "return," it's a valuation.

A simplified example is you buy a house for $100k. You do some renovations for $20k over a 10 year period. Over that timeframe, the real estate market heats up and the neighborhood becomes more valuable. Today, a real estate agent tells you that the house is worth $150k. This fact alone doesn't change your income or cash position.


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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Backtobanks » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:46 pm

ConstableRabbit wrote:
Backtobanks wrote:Latest Forbes report says Cubs are worth $3.2 Billion, not a bad return on spending $845 million in 2009. So why did we have to sit out this offseason free agency?

There are many ways to answer your question, but the $3.2B figure isn't the best. It's not a "return," it's a valuation.

A simplified example is you buy a house for $100k. You do some renovations for $20k over a 10 year period. Over that timeframe, the real estate market heats up and the neighborhood becomes more valuable. Today, a real estate agent tells you that the house is worth $150k. This fact alone doesn't change your income or cash position.


If PTR would do us a favor and sell high, he wouldn't be poor any longer and then we could feel more comfortable rooting for the Cubs again.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Tim » Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:47 pm

Backtobanks wrote:
ConstableRabbit wrote:
Backtobanks wrote:Latest Forbes report says Cubs are worth $3.2 Billion, not a bad return on spending $845 million in 2009. So why did we have to sit out this offseason free agency?

There are many ways to answer your question, but the $3.2B figure isn't the best. It's not a "return," it's a valuation.

A simplified example is you buy a house for $100k. You do some renovations for $20k over a 10 year period. Over that timeframe, the real estate market heats up and the neighborhood becomes more valuable. Today, a real estate agent tells you that the house is worth $150k. This fact alone doesn't change your income or cash position.


If PTR would do us a favor and sell high, he wouldn't be poor any longer and then we could feel more comfortable rooting for the Cubs again.

What makes you think the next billionaire would be better?
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Regular Show » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:13 pm

Tim wrote:What makes you think the next billionaire would be better?


It's damn hard to be worse than the Ricketts... The Koch brothers and Rupert Murdock are definitely worse. The Kushner family. The Sackler family.

I'm pretty sure the next owners will be better than the current POS owners we have right now... I mean I don't love silicon valley technocrats, but they're infinitely better than the evil, rich Republican billionaire horsefeathers we have to deal with.
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Postby CyHawk_Cub » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:55 pm

If you think massive asset appreciation doesn't tangibly/positively impact present-day "cash" position, or whatever one wants to call it, I don't know what to say. Every wealthy person I know would laugh at that proposition.
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Postby Bryant's Disco Ball » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:43 pm

Man, this world feels normal again, if only for just a few moments.
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Not saying it will happen, but the Cubs coming back from a 3-1 deficit to win the World Series does seem like the appropriate way to cap off this season and make the 30-for-30 even better.

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Postby Jim » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:59 pm

Glen Beckert who played for the Cubs 1965-1973 died 4-12-20.RIP.
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Postby Bertz » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:33 am

Greg Maddux shutting out the Dodgers vs Orel Hershiser in 1989 is on Marquee right now
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Sosa21MVP » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:51 am

Bertz wrote:Greg Maddux shutting out the Dodgers vs Orel Hershiser in 1989 is on Marquee right now


Good call out. Watching it now. :hello:
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Old Style » Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:51 am

I was listening to the radio broadcast of World Series Game 5 on The Score. Picked it up in the 2nd inning. Game 7 should be on Friday night.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby David » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:34 pm

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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:58 pm

David wrote:https://twitter.com/InfieldChatter/status/1252628409953501184?s=20

This is lame. Happ ruining our "he kills people for fun" trope by exposing himself as a nice normal cool guy. Pretty brave of Nico and company to take the invite!
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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:17 pm

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
David wrote:https://twitter.com/InfieldChatter/status/1252628409953501184?s=20

This is lame. Happ ruining our "he kills people for fun" trope by exposing himself as a nice normal cool guy. Pretty brave of Nico and company to take the invite!


At least we still have the time that a magazine scientifically proved how tiny Rizzo's face is.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby David » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:29 pm

A heads up for those of us who get Marquee. Seeing as how this decade is basically NSBB's wheelhouse, I figured I'd pass it on.



I know this game, in particular, is a favorite around here:

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June 29, 2007: Ramirez’s walk-off homer
In a season that had the Cubs playing under .500 often during their first 80 games, this game helped turn around the season for newly named manager Lou Piniella and his club. Piniella was brought in to replace Dusty Baker after a very poor 2006 season.

The Cubs had parted ways with long time team president Andy MacPhail after a 12-year run. John McDonough was named team president in that offseason and worked with VP of business Crane Kenney and GM Jim Hendry to sign superstar outfielder Alfonso Soriano to an eight-year, $126 million deal.

This game featured left-handed pitcher Rich Hill against rookie Brewers starter Yovani Gallardo. The North Siders were riding the waves of a six-game winning streak when the first-place Brewers came to town. Hill surrendered 5 runs in the 1st inning that included a three-run homer from Kevin Mench. After Hill left the game in the 4th, the bullpen put up 6 innings of shutout ball.

That helps set the stage for a 9th-inning come-from-behind walk-off win. Trailing 5-3 in the 9th, Francisco Cordero entered the game. He got Ryan Theriot on a pop up to the second base. Both Soriano and Mike Fontenot singled. With men on second and third, Derrek Lee hit a sac fly to deep right field.

Enter Ramirez. Down 5-4, he jumped on the first pitch and drove a breaking ball into the right-field bleachers for an improbable walk-off home run and a raucous reception by his teammates at home plate.

Fun facts of 2007

On the very day of the Ramirez walk-off, the first iPhone was first released
Of course, the most famous person in America was Apple creator Steve Jobs
The minimum wage was $5.85 per hour.
Time magazine’s person of the year was Vladimir Putin.


Monday will have the September 2001 game where Sammy waved the flag as he rounded the bases. Tuesday is the 2003 Cubs beating the Pirates to clinch the division. Thursday is Zambrano's no-no in 2008 and Friday is the 2008 division clincher against the Cardinals.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:28 pm

That game alone is probably the reason A Ram is one of my favorite Cubs.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:44 pm

That home run is so burned into my brain I knew immediately that they incorrectly said it was hit to RF instead of LF
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Postby David » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:51 pm

I actually remembered the bit about the iPhone being released that day.

I was in Miami on vacation with my family and didn't get to see the game, so I was just following along on a non-smart phone's "internet" updates (think it was a Motorola SLVR). Ironically, I remember thinking the iPhone was probably dumb but I also didn't know much about it.

I did end up getting one that fall when the entry level 4gb price got slashed heavily (think they were phasing it out), though.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:01 pm

I was driving down the shore listening on the radio, my wife was asleep and I woke her up yelling and screaming
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Postby Irrelevant Dude » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:44 pm

I just received an email from my Season Ticket representative:

As a valued Season Ticket Holder, you have the option to receive a credit plus a 5% bonus or a refund for your tickets to Cubs home games originally scheduled to be played in March, April and May.


I'm sure they are hoping for people to accept the credit with a 5% bonus and then be essentially locked into Season Tickets for next year, but with all the uncertainty around the schedule this year (and possibly beyond) that would seem like an unwise choice for anyone to make.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:50 pm

Irrelevant Dude wrote:I just received an email from my Season Ticket representative:

As a valued Season Ticket Holder, you have the option to receive a credit plus a 5% bonus or a refund for your tickets to Cubs home games originally scheduled to be played in March, April and May.


I'm sure they are hoping for people to accept the credit with a 5% bonus and then be essentially locked into Season Tickets for next year, but with all the uncertainty around the schedule this year (and possibly beyond) that would seem like an unwise choice for anyone to make.

If it’s still mostly disposable money for someone, 5% on your money isn’t the worst thing to be getting right now. Plus that credit.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby The Logan » Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:22 pm

People in the waiting list might want to check their spot. I was somewhere in the mid-upper 30K on the waitlist at the end of last season. I'm now 8112.

I haven't seen a drop that substantial since they sold the team and blew it all up and sucked for a couple years.
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