Gmoney23 wrote:Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Yeah, Trueblood was trying to push a similar narrative earlier this week and it doesn't land. On top of what jersey said, since 2015 the Cubs are 3rd in MLB in wins, including more than the Yankees, who were Trueblood's 'consistent excellence' barometer they were failing to meet. The short to medium term outlook isn't as good as it could or should be, and you can blame various proportions of ownership, the front office, and luck for that. But that frustration is creating a desire for some to downplay what they actually achieved.
Yeah since 15 third most wins in baseball. Same amount LCS appearances as the Yankees. Actually won a World Series which NY & LA (as of this week) havent won. Nobody has dynastied & won 2 titles during this stretch. Goes to show how important 2016 was. Great organizations like LA, NY, and CLE are still shutout of rings during this stretch.
It sucks the waves and waves & dynasty didnt happen but hard to give Theo anything but an A for this stretch of consistent good with a few years of great baseball.
Right. What are we measuring against? The Cubs’ history? This was the best multi-year stretch of Cubs baseball since the 1930s at worst. The best of anyone’s lifetimes unless you’re in your 90s, and even then we could argue the point - those 20s/30s Cubs went to 4 WSs, but never won one.
Measured against other teams during the same time frame? No one won more World Series. The Dodgers, the gold standard during this time frame still don’t have theirs. The Royals have fallen apart and are rebuilding. The Nats finally got theirs and immediately followed up with a losing season. The Yankees haven’t won with their most recent crop of talent. The Indians are still searching for their first win. The Astros cheated to get their win and had a losing season this year. The Red Sox cheated to get their win and have been awful ever since. The Brewers lucked into a couple playoff appearances, but were never particularly good. The Cardinals seem to be stuck perpetually at above average. Am I forgetting anyone? I’d rather be the Dodgers going forward, but I wouldn’t trade the Cubs’ last 6 seasons for anyone else’s.