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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby champaignchris » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:18 pm

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Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Yeah, Trueblood was trying to push a similar narrative earlier this week and it doesn't land. On top of what jersey said, since 2015 the Cubs are 3rd in MLB in wins, including more than the Yankees, who were Trueblood's 'consistent excellence' barometer they were failing to meet. The short to medium term outlook isn't as good as it could or should be, and you can blame various proportions of ownership, the front office, and luck for that. But that frustration is creating a desire for some to downplay what they actually achieved.


Yeah since 15 third most wins in baseball. Same amount LCS appearances as the Yankees. Actually won a World Series which NY & LA (as of this week) havent won. Nobody has dynastied & won 2 titles during this stretch. Goes to show how important 2016 was. Great organizations like LA, NY, and CLE are still shutout of rings during this stretch.

It sucks the waves and waves & dynasty didnt happen but hard to give Theo anything but an A for this stretch of consistent good with a few years of great baseball.


Right. What are we measuring against? The Cubs’ history? This was the best multi-year stretch of Cubs baseball since the 1930s at worst. The best of anyone’s lifetimes unless you’re in your 90s, and even then we could argue the point - those 20s/30s Cubs went to 4 WSs, but never won one.

Measured against other teams during the same time frame? No one won more World Series. The Dodgers, the gold standard during this time frame still don’t have theirs. The Royals have fallen apart and are rebuilding. The Nats finally got theirs and immediately followed up with a losing season. The Yankees haven’t won with their most recent crop of talent. The Indians are still searching for their first win. The Astros cheated to get their win and had a losing season this year. The Red Sox cheated to get their win and have been awful ever since. The Brewers lucked into a couple playoff appearances, but were never particularly good. The Cardinals seem to be stuck perpetually at above average. Am I forgetting anyone? I’d rather be the Dodgers going forward, but I wouldn’t trade the Cubs’ last 6 seasons for anyone else’s.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:25 pm

The lesson in all this, as always, is Trueblood is a complete horsefeathering moron
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:28 pm

This era cannot be called anything but a smashing success. Not only did they win for the first time in anybody we know's lifetimes but they did it with a largely homegrown roster, players that we watched intensively throughout their development, and in which produced a handful of legit All-Stars and a couple superstars. It was more brief than I anticipated, sure. I too had dreams of a longstanding dynasty, and watching the player development stagnate, and falling behind in some of the league-wide trends was surprising. But this was by far the most fun I had watching the team in my lifetime.
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Postby 17 Seconds » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:19 am

i think time will do a lot of good things for theo's cubs legacy
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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:45 am

Unless I've Jerry O'Connelled my way into an alternate universe where Epstein took over the Cubs before the 2015 season, that's not the season to start measuring him by.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby David » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:11 am

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Unless I've Jerry O'Connelled my way into an alternate universe where Epstein took over the Cubs before the 2015 season, that's not the season to start measuring him by.


yeah yeah yeah. we get it. we know. go away man.
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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:32 am

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Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Unless I've Jerry O'Connelled my way into an alternate universe where Epstein took over the Cubs before the 2015 season, that's not the season to start measuring him by.


yeah yeah yeah. we get it. we know. go away man.


Damn. I knew Sliders wasn't popular but I didn't think it would be that controversial to reference.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:59 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:
David wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Unless I've Jerry O'Connelled my way into an alternate universe where Epstein took over the Cubs before the 2015 season, that's not the season to start measuring him by.


yeah yeah yeah. we get it. we know. go away man.


Damn. I knew Sliders wasn't popular but I didn't think it would be that controversial to reference.

I'm more of a Gimli guy.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Bertz » Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:53 pm



This article is almost comically vague, but a few things stand out

- They're not spending a ton of money this winter, it sounds like it may even be a dollar in/dollar out kind of situation
- The team seems to be very confident in the pitching infrastructure. Expect most of the pitching changes to be either from playing waiver wire roulette like last winter or from development of the cache of power arms they now finally have in the minors
- They seem to be setting us up for running back mostly the same horsefeathering offense. Probably see one high profile guy sent out (KB?), and a handful of lower profile names brought in
- The team sees some Tommy Hottovy in Chris Valaika. They're hoping that as a young, smart, recent major leaguer he can work up to doing similar things on the offensive side
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:26 pm

Sounds like mostly the same stuff they've been writing since 15 minutes after the 2016 WS + some coaching fluff

That said...That outline for the pitching approach this offseason makes sense and for the same reasons, especially if the releases and NTs get as bad as expected this offseason. Also Valaika got some credit for Davis' breakout and gets praise for understanding da analytics in previous articles. He seems set up to be a key guy in 2021 since they'll most definitely have to bring in some MiL position players for depth
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Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:58 am

This would be a decently big hit, don’t do it Angels.

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Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:19 am

One positive spin is that this is an an endorsement of the 2020 draft and Ed Howard. The Angels were tied to Ed Howard by Jim Callis on Draft day. Howard signed for slot while their pick at 10, Reid Detmers, signed for slightly below

Another is that this is the 2nd straight offseason a Cubs FO guy is interviewing for a big market GM gig including Harris getting the Giants job
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:17 pm

Jon Lester drinks cat urine.

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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:54 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:Jon Lester drinks cat urine.


Jon Lester thanks fans by holding super spreader events throughout the city.
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Postby UMFan83 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:00 pm

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Ding Dong Johnson wrote:Jon Lester drinks cat urine.


Jon Lester thanks fans by holding super spreader events throughout the city.


Apparently he chose those bars specifically after he confirmed that they are reservation only (thus limiting capacity), and was assured that all mask wearing and social distancing guidelines are strongly enforced. I think I read also only outdoor seating but I could be wrong. Probably not 100% safe but at least he put some effort into ensuring the safety of the people taking him up on the offer and helping to support bars who are likely struggling.
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:04 pm

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WrigleyField 22 wrote:
Ding Dong Johnson wrote:Jon Lester drinks cat urine.


Jon Lester thanks fans by holding super spreader events throughout the city.


Apparently he chose those bars specifically after he confirmed that they are reservation only (thus limiting capacity), and was assured that all mask wearing and social distancing guidelines are strongly enforced. I think I read also only outdoor seating but I could be wrong. Probably not 100% safe but at least he put some effort into ensuring the safety of the people taking him up on the offer and helping to support bars who are likely struggling.

Okay, at least he's trying.
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Postby squally1313 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:20 pm

Yeah I mean, it's a really cool gesture done at a really bad time. Still love him, even though if he knew how Instagram works he would most likely pull a Cutler here in the next few days.
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:21 pm

squally1313 wrote:Yeah I mean, it's a really cool gesture done at a really bad time. Still love him, even though if he knew how Instagram works he would most likely pull a Cutler here in the next few days.


I get the impression Jon would be FAR less entertaining then Cutler on instagram
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:26 pm

Speaking of BDJ

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Postby Brian » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:54 pm

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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby itisallpartoftheplan » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:07 am

*Ryan Tepera MVP Vote alert*
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Postby soccer10k » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:48 pm

itisallpartoftheplan wrote:*Ryan Tepera MVP Vote alert*


I had a coworker point out that a Cubs reliever got an MVP vote this year and thought for sure it was Jeffress. Nope, it was a dude with an ERA just under 4.

And the guy who voted for him is a St Louis writer.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby CoolHandLuke » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:53 pm

soccer10k wrote:
itisallpartoftheplan wrote:*Ryan Tepera MVP Vote alert*


I had a coworker point out that a Cubs reliever got an MVP vote this year and thought for sure it was Jeffress. Nope, it was a dude with an ERA just under 4.

And the guy who voted for him is a St Louis writer.


There was an article explaining that it was a mistake - he was trying to give Trea Turner a vote
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby soccer10k » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:33 am

CoolHandLuke wrote:
soccer10k wrote:
itisallpartoftheplan wrote:*Ryan Tepera MVP Vote alert*


I had a coworker point out that a Cubs reliever got an MVP vote this year and thought for sure it was Jeffress. Nope, it was a dude with an ERA just under 4.

And the guy who voted for him is a St Louis writer.


There was an article explaining that it was a mistake - he was trying to give Trea Turner a vote


Well that makes a lot more sense. Guess by the end he didn’t bother double checking he put down the right player. It is a 10th place vote so not like he mistakenly voted Tepera 1st.
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