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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:16 pm

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Transmogrified Tiger wrote:I've always been of the mind that Almora becoming a lot like Pillar would be a pretty great outcome. After this year it looks like he's trending that way, albeit with slightly different offense/defense proportions.


I looked at his numbers and thought 'damn these look horsefeathers, I'd hope Almora is better than that' but then I saw his splits are pretty much as extreme as Almora's.

If Almora can't provide a defensive value approaching Pillar, I can't see him playing most of the time against RHP.


Admittedly this idea was spawned with the idea of 2015 Pillar in mind, who was at least approaching average with the bat. Today I'm more confident that Almora will outpace him with the bat(and therefore be an everyday option), but also a little less certain he will be a defensive monster like Pillar.
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:23 pm

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ScrubMD wrote: We are losing 2 players who matter, with $35m in payroll cleared up. Despite a decent amount of injuries and a terrible first half, we won 92 games, had the 2nd best record in baseball the 2nd half, and made it to the NLCS again. And that leads him to "Look, things ain't pretty, sports fans."


Arrieta, Davis and Lackey all mattered.

Arrieta was terrific and will almost certainly be replaced by a lesser pitcher.
Davis was great and although maybe a little easier to replace, lots of quality front offices have rolled the dice on the wrong guy in that situation.
Lackey's value is under appreciated, as it costs a lot of money to simply get a guy you can reasonably expect to duplicate what he did.

It's going to take a lot of work to replace those guys, and they may not collectively improve on that group, so they'll need to other three starters to at least not take a step back.

it's a legit big ask.



Id agree with you on Arrieta and Davis, but Lackeys only true value came in filling up a jersey with flesh and bones
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Postby Bull » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:34 am

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Seriously though, he dismissed Bryzzo failed to mention Contreras, and suggested trading Russell, Baez or Happ (as though they were interchangeable) as the only way to guard against complete rotation meltdown. It was silly.

But my broader point is that the entire exercise is silly at this point. No one has been able to make any moves yet. Anything but Astros #1, Dodgers #2, Cubs and Yanks 3&4, & playoff teams 5-8 right now is dismissive to this season.

Seriously though, you're completely misreading.

He didn't dismiss Bryzzo. It was a 4 sentence general assessment of the team in which he explicitly says they should be good again and maybe better than that last year.


I think the rest of my post indicated clearly how seriously I'm taking this. I'm not, because it's not a serious article. He jokes that its too early to do, but does it anyway. meh.
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Postby UMFan83 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:29 pm

Random thought but I didn't realize Tommy Hunter had such a great season under Hickey last year

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?pl ... position=P

Or heck even Joe Smith put together a pretty good year last year (not under Hickey).

I know relievers are notorious for being fickle year to year but it really makes me think....Hunter in 15, Smith in 16, Wilson in 17, 3 deadline acquisitions meant to fortify the pen and I believe the 3 of them were on the roster for just 1 of the 8 playoff rounds the Cubs have played the last 3 years (including 15 WC game) - Wilson in this years NLDS where he was certainly the last pitcher included and was then removed before the NLCS. There are probably a lot of reasons Theo and Co decided to go in a different direction from Boz, but listening to Theo's comments on the radio throughout the second half of the season about Wilson, he sounded super frustrated that this was happening again.
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Postby Brian » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:17 pm

We did that thing that is apparently a thing, but I didn't know it was thing till the Royals did it for us.

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Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:36 pm

is it wrong that i kind of like that hat?

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There is one like it for the Cubs from last year.
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Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:51 pm

Brian wrote:There is one like it for the Cubs from last year.


not with the shiny bill, though
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Postby SouthSideRyan » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:46 pm

Yeah, I like theirs a lot more than ours.
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Postby toonsterwu » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:32 am

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
ScrubMD wrote: We are losing 2 players who matter, with $35m in payroll cleared up. Despite a decent amount of injuries and a terrible first half, we won 92 games, had the 2nd best record in baseball the 2nd half, and made it to the NLCS again. And that leads him to "Look, things ain't pretty, sports fans."


Arrieta, Davis and Lackey all mattered.

Arrieta was terrific and will almost certainly be replaced by a lesser pitcher.
Davis was great and although maybe a little easier to replace, lots of quality front offices have rolled the dice on the wrong guy in that situation.
Lackey's value is under appreciated, as it costs a lot of money to simply get a guy you can reasonably expect to duplicate what he did.

It's going to take a lot of work to replace those guys, and they may not collectively improve on that group, so they'll need to other three starters to at least not take a step back.

it's a legit big ask.



Id agree with you on Arrieta and Davis, but Lackeys only true value came in filling up a jersey with flesh and bones


I'm sort of with jcf on this. Lackey wasn't good ... but bad still costs when the system really doesn't have anyone ready to step in and legitimately compete for an end of the rotation spot (maybe Tseng, although I'm still of the opinion that if Tseng can ramp it up, he might hold more impact in the pen). Ideally, you'd throw such a big net that you should be able to find a cheap guy to do what Lackey did last year, but what Lackey did last year, as bad as it was, still costs.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby David » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:45 pm

toonsterwu wrote:
minnesotacubsfan wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
Arrieta, Davis and Lackey all mattered.

Arrieta was terrific and will almost certainly be replaced by a lesser pitcher.
Davis was great and although maybe a little easier to replace, lots of quality front offices have rolled the dice on the wrong guy in that situation.
Lackey's value is under appreciated, as it costs a lot of money to simply get a guy you can reasonably expect to duplicate what he did.

It's going to take a lot of work to replace those guys, and they may not collectively improve on that group, so they'll need to other three starters to at least not take a step back.

it's a legit big ask.



Id agree with you on Arrieta and Davis, but Lackeys only true value came in filling up a jersey with flesh and bones


I'm sort of with jcf on this. Lackey wasn't good ... but bad still costs when the system really doesn't have anyone ready to step in and legitimately compete for an end of the rotation spot (maybe Tseng, although I'm still of the opinion that if Tseng can ramp it up, he might hold more impact in the pen). Ideally, you'd throw such a big net that you should be able to find a cheap guy to do what Lackey did last year, but what Lackey did last year, as bad as it was, still costs.


Lackey was a half win above replacement. By definition, that's neither hard to find nor costly.
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Postby javy knows my name » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:34 pm

I'm now 100% sure he's trolling everyone
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:40 pm

javy knows my name wrote:I'm now 100% sure he's trolling everyone


That's been photoshopped.
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Postby javy knows my name » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:47 pm

Oof I am stupid
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:48 pm

Woof, that is not a flattering angle for such a beautiful, beautiful dude.
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Postby chopsx9 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:20 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Woof, that is not a flattering angle for such a beautiful, beautiful dude.


Facing frontwards? Not sure I follow.
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Postby David » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:24 pm

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Sammy Sofa wrote:Woof, that is not a flattering angle for such a beautiful, beautiful dude.


Facing frontwards? Not sure I follow.

pretty sure there's more to angles than just front side and back
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:59 pm

Bad pic quality, bad angle, bad lighting...basically makes him look like an oaf with Brillo pad hair instead of the sexual stallion that he is with his majestic mane.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:25 pm

Harper is very good at baseball but he has always looked like a werewolf
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Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Harper is very good at baseball but he has always looked like a werewolf


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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:23 pm

David wrote:i don't hate homerpalooza (though i definitely don't seem to hold it in as high a regard as you guys)...just came to mind as a weird episode


You probably don't like Homerpalooza as much because you wouldn't miss a Cubs playoff game for any of the bands in that episode.
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