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Cubswin11 wrote:Go away you idiot




If we're going to have a completely useless player on the roster, DFA this jackass and call up Taylor Davis. At least he's fun.
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Postby Rob » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:05 pm

I'm bored. Here's the best Cubs season at each position since 2000, by fWAR.

C - Geovany Soto (2008): 3.7 fWAR, .285/.364/.504 with 23 HR
1B - Derrek Lee (2005): 7.0 fWAR, .335/.418/.662 with 46 HR and 15 SB
2B - Mark DeRosa (2008): 4.2 fWAR, .285/.376/.481 with 21 HR
3B - Kris Bryant (2016): 7.8 fWAR, .292/.385/.554 with 39 HR
SS - Addison Russell (2016): 3.3 fWAR, .238/.321/.417 with 21 HR and 10.3 UZR
LF - Alfonso Soriano (2007): 6.7 fWAR .299/.337/.560 with 33 HR, 19 SB, and an incredible 32 UZR, which is the highest in MLB since 2000.
CF - Corey Patterson (2004): 5.0 fWAR, .266/.320/.452 with 24 HR, 32 SB and 24.6 UZR
RF - Sammy Sosa (2001): 9.9 fWAR, .328/.437/.737 with 64 HR


2B was oddly difficult to pin down. Most of the top seasons had guys splitting their time between multiple positions. DeRosa, Zobrist, Bellhorn, Fontenot, Baez this year... You could instead make an argument it was Eric Young's 2000 season with 3.6 fWAR.

Likewise, Bryant spent a good chunk of 2016 in the OF. But his 2017 and 2015 seasons are the next two on the list. So feel free to use one of those instead.
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Postby Regular Show » Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:14 pm

Rob wrote:I'm bored. Here's the best Cubs season at each position since 2000, by fWAR.

C - Geovany Soto (2008): 3.7 fWAR, .285/.364/.504 with 23 HR
1B - Derrek Lee (2005): 7.0 fWAR, .335/.418/.662 with 46 HR and 15 SB
2B - Mark DeRosa (2008): 4.2 fWAR, .285/.376/.481 with 21 HR
3B - Kris Bryant (2016): 7.8 fWAR, .292/.385/.554 with 39 HR
SS - Addison Russell (2016): 3.3 fWAR, .238/.321/.417 with 21 HR and 10.3 UZR
LF - Alfonso Soriano (2007): 6.7 fWAR .299/.337/.560 with 33 HR, 19 SB, and an incredible 32 UZR, which is the highest in MLB since 2000.
CF - Corey Patterson (2004): 5.0 fWAR, .266/.320/.452 with 24 HR, 32 SB and 24.6 UZR
RF - Sammy Sosa (2001): 9.9 fWAR, .328/.437/.737 with 64 HR


2B was oddly difficult to pin down. Most of the top seasons had guys splitting their time between multiple positions. DeRosa, Zobrist, Bellhorn, Fontenot, Baez this year... You could instead make an argument it was Eric Young's 2000 season with 3.6 fWAR.

Likewise, Bryant spent a good chunk of 2016 in the OF. But his 2017 and 2015 seasons are the next two on the list. So feel free to use one of those instead.


I did not realize Soriano had such a good year in 2007. His defense was always so bad and disappointing in LF from watching him on TV.
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Postby davell » Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:53 pm



I don't remember that story.
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Postby ScrubMD » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:38 am

Rob wrote:I'm bored. Here's the best Cubs season at each position since 2000, by fWAR.

C - Geovany Soto (2008): 3.7 fWAR, .285/.364/.504 with 23 HR
1B - Derrek Lee (2005): 7.0 fWAR, .335/.418/.662 with 46 HR and 15 SB
2B - Mark DeRosa (2008): 4.2 fWAR, .285/.376/.481 with 21 HR
3B - Kris Bryant (2016): 7.8 fWAR, .292/.385/.554 with 39 HR
SS - Addison Russell (2016): 3.3 fWAR, .238/.321/.417 with 21 HR and 10.3 UZR
LF - Alfonso Soriano (2007): 6.7 fWAR .299/.337/.560 with 33 HR, 19 SB, and an incredible 32 UZR, which is the highest in MLB since 2000.
CF - Corey Patterson (2004): 5.0 fWAR, .266/.320/.452 with 24 HR, 32 SB and 24.6 UZR
RF - Sammy Sosa (2001): 9.9 fWAR, .328/.437/.737 with 64 HR



So there’s a pretty good shot they top that at C, 2B, and SS this year.

I thought Almora was going to be on pace to be close, but either his defensive value has gone way down or I’m misremembering where he was at the last time I looked it up.
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Postby Tim » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:39 am

ScrubMD wrote:
Rob wrote:I'm bored. Here's the best Cubs season at each position since 2000, by fWAR.

C - Geovany Soto (2008): 3.7 fWAR, .285/.364/.504 with 23 HR
1B - Derrek Lee (2005): 7.0 fWAR, .335/.418/.662 with 46 HR and 15 SB
2B - Mark DeRosa (2008): 4.2 fWAR, .285/.376/.481 with 21 HR
3B - Kris Bryant (2016): 7.8 fWAR, .292/.385/.554 with 39 HR
SS - Addison Russell (2016): 3.3 fWAR, .238/.321/.417 with 21 HR and 10.3 UZR
LF - Alfonso Soriano (2007): 6.7 fWAR .299/.337/.560 with 33 HR, 19 SB, and an incredible 32 UZR, which is the highest in MLB since 2000.
CF - Corey Patterson (2004): 5.0 fWAR, .266/.320/.452 with 24 HR, 32 SB and 24.6 UZR
RF - Sammy Sosa (2001): 9.9 fWAR, .328/.437/.737 with 64 HR



So there’s a pretty good shot they top that at C, 2B, and SS this year.

I thought Almora was going to be on pace to be close, but either his defensive value has gone way down or I’m misremembering where he was at the last time I looked it up.

Defense went way down
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:33 am

CEJ today at Iowa: 0.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 HBP, 0-0 GO-FO, 20-7 pitches-strikes
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Postby UMFan83 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:30 pm

ASG voting ends at midnight tonight. According to MLB.com, Willson has passed Posey for starting NL Catcher. I know some people want the Cubs to rest, but please vote in Willy, he needs to get in just to piss off Molina.

Willson's lead is about 12k votes. Javy has also gone from about 300k back on Monday to slightly more than 100k back today.

Also this dude has been projecting AS teams weekly for awhile. Somehow he managed to REMOVE Javy from the game over the past week

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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Gmoney08 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:16 am

I was looking online but apparenlty not the right places.

Can anyone find the best rolling 162 game stretch of this eras Cubs?

Between the hot finish to 2015 and the hot start to 2016 im pretty sure they had an amazing rolling 162 at some point.

Also i dont know if someone can figure it out but wasnt there a stretch at some point like 110 games rolling where the Cubs were on like a 125 win pace over 162?

Also any info on who had the best rolling 162s of recent memory and alltime?

Ive seen this done with individual homers but as a team this seems hard to find.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:26 am

Gmoney08 wrote:I was looking online but apparenlty not the right places.

Can anyone find the best rolling 162 game stretch of this eras Cubs?

Between the hot finish to 2015 and the hot start to 2016 im pretty sure they had an amazing rolling 162 at some point.

Also i dont know if someone can figure it out but wasnt there a stretch at some point like 110 games rolling where the Cubs were on like a 125 win pace over 162?

Also any info on who had the best rolling 162s of recent memory and alltime?

Ive seen this done with individual homers but as a team this seems hard to find.


Given what we know about when the wins have happened, the best 162 game span is going to be some time in 2015 through a similar spot in 2016. The 2015 Cubs took off in July and the 2016 Cubs slumped in late June/early July, so that narrows it down further. The 2016 slide started after 67 games, so if we back up 95 games into 2015 we get a 60-35 stretch to end 2015, and 47-20 to start 2016, or a 107 win pace.

If you want to cherry pick a bit more, the 2016 Cubs were 39-15 to start the year, and the 2015 Cubs ended winning 45 of their last 63. That gives a consecutive span of 84-33 over 117 games, which is a 116 win pace per 162 games.
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Postby Gmoney08 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:33 am

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Gmoney08 wrote:I was looking online but apparenlty not the right places.

Can anyone find the best rolling 162 game stretch of this eras Cubs?

Between the hot finish to 2015 and the hot start to 2016 im pretty sure they had an amazing rolling 162 at some point.

Also i dont know if someone can figure it out but wasnt there a stretch at some point like 110 games rolling where the Cubs were on like a 125 win pace over 162?

Also any info on who had the best rolling 162s of recent memory and alltime?

Ive seen this done with individual homers but as a team this seems hard to find.


Given what we know about when the wins have happened, the best 162 game span is going to be some time in 2015 through a similar spot in 2016. The 2015 Cubs took off in July and the 2016 Cubs slumped in late June/early July, so that narrows it down further. The 2016 slide started after 67 games, so if we back up 95 games into 2015 we get a 60-35 stretch to end 2015, and 47-20 to start 2016, or a 107 win pace.

If you want to cherry pick a bit more, the 2016 Cubs were 39-15 to start the year, and the 2015 Cubs ended winning 45 of their last 63. That gives a consecutive span of 84-33 over 117 games, which is a 116 win pace per 162 games.


Numbers look right but I figured a 104 win team would have a better rolling 162 than 107 wins. Only 3 better than they actually had.

Any chance there was a stretch after the Cubs slide but back when they got hot again that rolled better than 107?

Didnt we have another smoking stretch late july to aug of 2016. That would still roll back through the super hot 2015 end anx start of 2016 too?
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:43 am

Gmoney08 wrote:
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Gmoney08 wrote:I was looking online but apparenlty not the right places.

Can anyone find the best rolling 162 game stretch of this eras Cubs?

Between the hot finish to 2015 and the hot start to 2016 im pretty sure they had an amazing rolling 162 at some point.

Also i dont know if someone can figure it out but wasnt there a stretch at some point like 110 games rolling where the Cubs were on like a 125 win pace over 162?

Also any info on who had the best rolling 162s of recent memory and alltime?

Ive seen this done with individual homers but as a team this seems hard to find.


Given what we know about when the wins have happened, the best 162 game span is going to be some time in 2015 through a similar spot in 2016. The 2015 Cubs took off in July and the 2016 Cubs slumped in late June/early July, so that narrows it down further. The 2016 slide started after 67 games, so if we back up 95 games into 2015 we get a 60-35 stretch to end 2015, and 47-20 to start 2016, or a 107 win pace.

If you want to cherry pick a bit more, the 2016 Cubs were 39-15 to start the year, and the 2015 Cubs ended winning 45 of their last 63. That gives a consecutive span of 84-33 over 117 games, which is a 116 win pace per 162 games.


Numbers look right but I figured a 104 win team would have a better rolling 162 than 107 wins. Only 3 better than they actually had.

Any chance there was a stretch after the Cubs slide but back when they got hot again that rolled better than 107?

Didnt we have another smoking stretch late july to aug of 2016. That would still roll back through the super hot 2015 end anx start of 2016 too?


Let's see!

Using that 45-18 stretch to close 2015, you can tack on the 59-40 start to 2016 but only get to 104 wins. The 2016 Cubs at one point were 82-45, which combined with the 2015 Cubs finishing 24-11 only gets up to 106.

It's just a really tough combo to find a streak in. The 2016 Cubs started so white hot, and 1/3 of their losses came in a one month span right in the middle of the season, and the 2017 Cubs didn't start out super hot, that it's difficult to find something much better than these 106 and 107 game stretches. Quite possible I'm missing something though.

Wait here's one more, the 2015 Cubs closed the year 21-7, and the 2016 Cubs started 87-47, which gets us to 108 as a rolling 162 game stretch. Not what you're hoping for, but the best yet I've found.
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Postby Duke Silver » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:49 am

Conversely, the worst 162-game stretch I can find since the start of 2015 is 90-71-1, if you take the the last five games of 2016 and the first 157 of 2017.
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Postby soccer10k » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:42 am

Gmoney08 wrote:I was looking online but apparenlty not the right places.

Can anyone find the best rolling 162 game stretch of this eras Cubs?

Between the hot finish to 2015 and the hot start to 2016 im pretty sure they had an amazing rolling 162 at some point.

Also i dont know if someone can figure it out but wasnt there a stretch at some point like 110 games rolling where the Cubs were on like a 125 win pace over 162?

Also any info on who had the best rolling 162s of recent memory and alltime?

Ive seen this done with individual homers but as a team this seems hard to find.


The Dodgers started 91-36 in 2017. Add on the last 35 games of 2016 (20-15) and you get 111-51. That's probably the best 162 game stretch in the last handful of years.

The 04 Cards finished 82-35 and the 05 team started 29-16, which would be 111-51.

Your best bet is to start with the 100-win teams and look and the year before and year after to see if they started hot in either of those years.
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Postby soccer10k » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:43 am

Gmoney08 wrote:I was looking online but apparenlty not the right places.

Can anyone find the best rolling 162 game stretch of this eras Cubs?

Between the hot finish to 2015 and the hot start to 2016 im pretty sure they had an amazing rolling 162 at some point.

Also i dont know if someone can figure it out but wasnt there a stretch at some point like 110 games rolling where the Cubs were on like a 125 win pace over 162?

Also any info on who had the best rolling 162s of recent memory and alltime?

Ive seen this done with individual homers but as a team this seems hard to find.


The Dodgers started 91-36 in 2017. Add on the last 35 games of 2016 (20-15) and you get 111-51. That's probably the best 162 game stretch in the last handful of years.

The 04 Cards finished 82-35 and the 05 team started 29-16, which would be 111-51.

Your best bet is to start with the 100-win teams and look and the year before and year after to see if they started hot in either of those years.
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Postby Sammys Boombox » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:53 am

Yeah, the “problem” with the 2015-2016 Cubs in terms of finding a really good 162-game stretch is their worst month in 2015 was July and their worst month in 2016 was June, but they were insanely hot late July 2015 into early June 2016.

They were 5-15 June 20 to July 9, 2016, also 12-20 from June 20 to July 26.

They were 13-19 June 24, 2015 to July 28, 2015. That’s a pretty long stretch of less than mediocre than overlaps with the horrid stretches of 2016.


I don’t know what it is about June/July that this team always has to put in a pretty bad, prolongated stretch.

13-18 June 7, 2017 to July 9, 2017.
6-11 June 10, 2018 to June 27, 2018.
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Postby javy knows my name » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:57 pm

Sammys Boombox wrote:I don’t know what it is about June/July that this team always has to put in a pretty bad, prolongated stretch


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Postby Sammys Boombox » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:34 pm

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Sammys Boombox wrote:I don’t know what it is about June/July that this team always has to put in a pretty bad, prolongated stretch


Oh goodness


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Bad couple days for former Cubs in KC.

The Royals have demoted right-hander Jason Hammel to the bullpen for the time being, Jeffrey Flanagan of MLB.com was among those to tweet.

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Instead, the once-competent Hammel has begun his age-35 season with a 6.16 ERA and his lowest K/9 (5.8) since 2011 over 102 1/3 innings. It’s the second disappointing campaign in a row for Hammel, who has combined for a 5.60 ERA across 280 2/3 frames since KC added him on a two-year, $16MM guarantee entering 2017.


Hammel leads the league in hits allowed, earned runs allowed and losses.


and:

The Royals have requested unconditional release waivers on right-hander Justin Grimm, as Maria Torres of the Kansas City Star and other media members have reported.

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Unfortunately for Grimm, he simply never got things together with the Royals, posting a 13.50 ERA over 12 2/3 innings and recording more walks (14) than strikeouts (eight). It has now been back-to-back rough seasons for Grimm, who had a 5.53 ERA for the Cubs last season thanks in large part to an ungainly 12 homers allowed over 55 1/3 innings.
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