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Re: It's Maddoning

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:44 am

Well, if we're sticking with the whole, "they're actually doing the opposite of what they're saying" thing, then maybe this means they're actually signing Harper, getting rid of Russell, AND firing Joe.
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Re: It's Maddoning

Postby r_mack » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:22 am

Just hire Girardi now if you're going to f*** around with this. This organization is turning back into a joke.
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Re: It's Maddoning

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:30 am

r_mack wrote:Just hire Girardi now if you're going to f*** around with this. This organization is turning back into a joke.


I like Joe Girardi way more than anyone else on this forum but this is a foolish comment
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Re: It's Maddoning

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r_mack wrote:Just hire Girardi now if you're going to f*** around with this. This organization is turning back into a joke.

why? how?
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Re: It's Maddoning

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I wonder what the hell this means? Are guys looking at taking other jobs? Are they shuffling people around?

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Re: It's Maddoning

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:04 am

Either that’s referring to Hyde being up for manager jobs, and/or Hickey/Butterfield/Borzello is looking around. Eyepatch just got hired and Strode will be here til the heat death of the universe.
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Hickey is gone
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Postby Banedon » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:13 pm

JennieGarthAlgar wrote:Hickey is gone


Jesse Rogers says he thinks that's gonna happen, but it's not official.
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Postby UMFan83 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:16 pm

What does that say about the front office getting rid of pitching and hitting coaches with no major issues (other than the Bosio racism that we didn't know about at the time, maybe Theo and Jed did) and then firing their handpicked replacements after 1 season? Not criticizing the FO in general, just always thought letting both of them go in one offseason was an odd move even if they identified 2 people they liked more.
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Re: It's Maddoning

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This seems like taking a shot at Joe more than anything if Hickey’s fired. I’m pretty indifferent on Hickey but he was Joe’s guy and if we’re going to keep Joe around for a year it seems like a weird move if you want your manager happy and motivated.
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Re: It's Maddoning

Postby The_Achiever » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:21 pm

I don't understand what Hickey did wrong. The pitching staff started out struggling a bit but basically carried this team when the offense fell apart.

PTR is back and coaching staff upheaval, not the start to the offseason I wanted.
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Re: It's Maddoning

Postby David » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:21 pm

idk what the hell hickey did well anyway. he can go.
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Postby UMFan83 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:28 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:This seems like taking a shot at Joe more than anything if Hickey’s fired. I’m pretty indifferent on Hickey but he was Joe’s guy and if we’re going to keep Joe around for a year it seems like a weird move if you want your manager happy and motivated.


I almost feel like the FO wants to go in a different direction with the manager but don't want to fire the coach who won the franchises first championship in 108 years.
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Re: It's Maddoning

Postby Banedon » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:29 pm

The way this is going down, I wonder if it's not so much firing Hickey as him wanting to leave for some reason? Otherwise i don't know why they didn't pull the trigger at the same time they did Chili.
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Re: It's Maddoning

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:37 pm

UMFan83 wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:This seems like taking a shot at Joe more than anything if Hickey’s fired. I’m pretty indifferent on Hickey but he was Joe’s guy and if we’re going to keep Joe around for a year it seems like a weird move if you want your manager happy and motivated.


I almost feel like the FO wants to go in a different direction with the manager but don't want to fire the coach who won the franchises first championship in 108 years.

Yeah it seems like they’re trying to smoke Joe out with this move
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Re: It's Maddoning

Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:41 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:This seems like taking a shot at Joe more than anything if Hickey’s fired. I’m pretty indifferent on Hickey but he was Joe’s guy and if we’re going to keep Joe around for a year it seems like a weird move if you want your manager happy and motivated.


I almost feel like the FO wants to go in a different direction with the manager but don't want to fire the coach who won the franchises first championship in 108 years.

Yeah it seems like they’re trying to smoke Joe out with this move


Yup, this sounds exactly like they just don't want to technically take the shot on Joe.

I would not shed a tear at all if Maddon WAS actually fired, but that they're treading so carefully with this just gets my doom boner going in that it makes me think they don't want the fans getting surly over both firing the WS manager AND having a disappointing offseason. Like, they WANT to fire him, but they don't want the extra fan blowback.
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Re: It's Maddoning

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Sammy Sofa wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
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I almost feel like the FO wants to go in a different direction with the manager but don't want to fire the coach who won the franchises first championship in 108 years.

Yeah it seems like they’re trying to smoke Joe out with this move


Yup, this sounds exactly like they just don't want to technically take the shot on Joe.

I would not shed a tear at all if Maddon WAS actually fired, but that they're treading so carefully with this just gets my doom boner going in that it makes me think they don't want the fans getting surly over both firing the WS manager AND having a disappointing offseason. Like, they WANT to fire him, but they don't want the extra fan blowback.

Plus the PR hit they're going to take when Russell gets brought back, just to complete the trifecta.
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Re: It's Maddoning

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Tim wrote:
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Cubswin11 wrote:Yeah it seems like they’re trying to smoke Joe out with this move


Yup, this sounds exactly like they just don't want to technically take the shot on Joe.

I would not shed a tear at all if Maddon WAS actually fired, but that they're treading so carefully with this just gets my doom boner going in that it makes me think they don't want the fans getting surly over both firing the WS manager AND having a disappointing offseason. Like, they WANT to fire him, but they don't want the extra fan blowback.

Plus the PR hit they're going to take when Russell gets brought back, just to complete the trifecta.


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Re: It's Maddoning

Postby Bertz » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:12 pm

Maybe PTR wants Joe to quit instead of firing him to save the $5m?
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