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Postby NOLA » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:29 pm

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MILWAUKEE -- Kris Bryant stopped by the office of Cubs manager Joe Maddon following Saturday's loss to the Brewers. The third baseman has been trying to stay on the field as he works through a right knee issue, but the discomfort flared up again in his latest attempt.

"When he comes in and says he needs a day, then you know," Maddon said prior to Sunday's series finale at Miller Park. "Because, he's played through a lot of different maladies."


or maybe you could figure it out without him being forced to come to you

I mean...seriously. THEN you know???
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Postby badger » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:05 am

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I don’t know how reliable Levine is but this is hopeful news
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badger wrote:[tweet] [/tweet]

I don’t know how reliable Levine is but this is hopeful news

Guessing it’s this tweet. I’m sure if they gave him the Arenado contract +/- he’d take it, but I doubt they offer that. He’s gonna make $40-45 mil in arbitration the next two years then is a FA at 30, does a 30 year old KB get more than like 6-7/170-200 in FA? I’m not sold he does.

I’m sure the Cubs would be fine giving him like 8/210 today (so would I, or like 9/230, 10/250 and Cub for life him). But he probably wants the 8/260+ that Arenando got, which I get why him and Boras would use that as the benchmark but I also think it’s an unreasonable basis given Arenado was 27 when he signed that and would’ve been a FA at 28 (only bought out 1 Arb year in which he was projected around ~$30 mil so he essentially signed 7/230 as a FA at 28). If that’s what they hold firm on you just ride it out through arbitration and see what FA brings for him.

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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:38 pm

If paying Bryant ~6 million a year more than is comfortable is what it takes, then I'm on board right away. I won't try to convince everyone it's the best decision in the world, but especially if you're mitigating risk by making it 8 years from today instead of Free Agency it's easy for me to talk myself into it. Only downside is the havoc that wreaks on this offseason from an LT perspective.
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Postby Brian » Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:08 pm

badger wrote:I don’t know how reliable Levine is but this is hopeful news


I'm pretty sure there are quotes from Bryant himself saying he's open to an extension, if I recall correctly he also pushed back on the 'Boras guys don't sign extensions' assumption stating that he was the boss.
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Now that he and Boas have folded, inevitable due to leverages, it becomes time to discuss whether extending him is Worth It as far as Value. Bryant is Aging and with Aging comes Declining and only that. From there ever since he won the Golden Spikes, went two in the draft, signed a franchise record deal, won MiL PoY, then ML RoY, and then a NL MVP along with a WS ring over a 4 year span the guy has really struggled to get it going. In the three years since he's averaged what, maybe 4 WAR? What kind of upside, what kind of Value, does a player like that have in his late 20s and (*spits then vomits*) his 30s? The Cubs *need* to get the absolute best possible Value out of this situation. It really disgusts me to see how far behind this franchise has fallen behind the Dodgers among others, and if they lock up Bryant to a deal that drags down payroll for years and years without proper and perfect Value it's pretty much set they'll never surpass Friedman's unprecedented successes over there. Do we want that for the Cubs' Future? Is that the goal? To be some team that spends money to retain their best players *knowing* what that does to the Budget and The Future? To take ourselves out of FAs like Anthony Rendon right off the bat?

Bryant may be willing to extend but perhaps the Cubs should be most willing to say no. They could easily let him hit FA, collect the draft pick, and use that draft pick to go get the next Bryant who would be a dozen years younger and maybe even perhaps have more potential. Some people think age is nothing but a number but Baseball Stats wise it's like the main number along with $/WAR and those are two things Bryant has no shot at being an MVP in
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:31 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:Now that he and Boas have folded

Folded?
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Postby Andy » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:41 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:They could easily let him hit FA, collect the draft pick, and use that draft pick to go get the next Bryant who would be a dozen years younger and maybe even perhaps have more potential.

Yes it's quite simple to draft a player who will win a league MVP award within 40 months of being drafted.
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Postby squally1313 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:34 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:Now that he and Boas have folded, inevitable due to leverages, it becomes time to discuss whether extending him is Worth It as far as Value. Bryant is Aging and with Aging comes Declining and only that. From there ever since he won the Golden Spikes, went two in the draft, signed a franchise record deal, won MiL PoY, then ML RoY, and then a NL MVP along with a WS ring over a 4 year span the guy has really struggled to get it going. In the three years since he's averaged what, maybe 4 WAR? What kind of upside, what kind of Value, does a player like that have in his late 20s and (*spits then vomits*) his 30s? The Cubs *need* to get the absolute best possible Value out of this situation. It really disgusts me to see how far behind this franchise has fallen behind the Dodgers among others, and if they lock up Bryant to a deal that drags down payroll for years and years without proper and perfect Value it's pretty much set they'll never surpass Friedman's unprecedented successes over there. Do we want that for the Cubs' Future? Is that the goal? To be some team that spends money to retain their best players *knowing* what that does to the Budget and The Future? To take ourselves out of FAs like Anthony Rendon right off the bat?

Bryant may be willing to extend but perhaps the Cubs should be most willing to say no. They could easily let him hit FA, collect the draft pick, and use that draft pick to go get the next Bryant who would be a dozen years younger and maybe even perhaps have more potential. Some people think age is nothing but a number but Baseball Stats wise it's like the main number along with $/WAR and those are two things Bryant has no shot at being an MVP in


This whole rant is pretty unhinged, but the bolded might be my favorite. He's put up 13.8 WAR in the last three years, which is not a difficult thing to fact check. That's also missing 50ish games in 2018, and sure, I'll even ignore the damage the injuries did while he was playing.

Seriously man, all these weird capitalizations is very Trump-y. Everything alright?
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Postby JennieGarthAlgar » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:45 pm

Sucks that Theo cant sign 29 year old Anthony Rendon because he will be vomiting too hard from signing 27 year old Kris Bryant knowing he will be 30 some day
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:37 pm

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TomtheBombadil wrote:Now that he and Boas have folded, inevitable due to leverages, it becomes time to discuss whether extending him is Worth It as far as Value. Bryant is Aging and with Aging comes Declining and only that. From there ever since he won the Golden Spikes, went two in the draft, signed a franchise record deal, won MiL PoY, then ML RoY, and then a NL MVP along with a WS ring over a 4 year span the guy has really struggled to get it going. In the three years since he's averaged what, maybe 4 WAR? What kind of upside, what kind of Value, does a player like that have in his late 20s and (*spits then vomits*) his 30s? The Cubs *need* to get the absolute best possible Value out of this situation. It really disgusts me to see how far behind this franchise has fallen behind the Dodgers among others, and if they lock up Bryant to a deal that drags down payroll for years and years without proper and perfect Value it's pretty much set they'll never surpass Friedman's unprecedented successes over there. Do we want that for the Cubs' Future? Is that the goal? To be some team that spends money to retain their best players *knowing* what that does to the Budget and The Future? To take ourselves out of FAs like Anthony Rendon right off the bat?

Bryant may be willing to extend but perhaps the Cubs should be most willing to say no. They could easily let him hit FA, collect the draft pick, and use that draft pick to go get the next Bryant who would be a dozen years younger and maybe even perhaps have more potential. Some people think age is nothing but a number but Baseball Stats wise it's like the main number along with $/WAR and those are two things Bryant has no shot at being an MVP in


This whole rant is pretty unhinged, but the bolded might be my favorite. He's put up 13.8 WAR in the last three years, which is not a difficult thing to fact check. That's also missing 50ish games in 2018, and sure, I'll even ignore the damage the injuries did while he was playing.

Seriously man, all these weird capitalizations is very Trump-y. Everything alright?


It was genuinely uncomfortable to read. Like someone screaming terrifying horsefeathers on a crowded train.
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Postby javy knows my name » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:19 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:Now that he and Boas have folded, inevitable due to leverages, it becomes time to discuss whether extending him is Worth It as far as Value. Bryant is Aging and with Aging comes Declining and only that. From there ever since he won the Golden Spikes, went two in the draft, signed a franchise record deal, won MiL PoY, then ML RoY, and then a NL MVP along with a WS ring over a 4 year span the guy has really struggled to get it going. In the three years since he's averaged what, maybe 4 WAR? What kind of upside, what kind of Value, does a player like that have in his late 20s and (*spits then vomits*) his 30s? The Cubs *need* to get the absolute best possible Value out of this situation. It really disgusts me to see how far behind this franchise has fallen behind the Dodgers among others, and if they lock up Bryant to a deal that drags down payroll for years and years without proper and perfect Value it's pretty much set they'll never surpass Friedman's unprecedented successes over there. Do we want that for the Cubs' Future? Is that the goal? To be some team that spends money to retain their best players *knowing* what that does to the Budget and The Future? To take ourselves out of FAs like Anthony Rendon right off the bat?

Bryant may be willing to extend but perhaps the Cubs should be most willing to say no. They could easily let him hit FA, collect the draft pick, and use that draft pick to go get the next Bryant who would be a dozen years younger and maybe even perhaps have more potential. Some people think age is nothing but a number but Baseball Stats wise it's like the main number along with $/WAR and those are two things Bryant has no shot at being an MVP in


I don't really want to make too much fun of someone who's obviously having a manic episode, but I REALLY want TT to give this the Ken Tremendous treatment
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Postby javy knows my name » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:41 pm

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:Now that he and Boas have folded

Folded?


Forget it, he's on a roll
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TomtheBombadil wrote:Now that he and Boas have folded, inevitable due to leverages, it becomes time to discuss whether extending him is Worth It as far as Value. Bryant is Aging and with Aging comes Declining and only that. From there ever since he won the Golden Spikes, went two in the draft, signed a franchise record deal, won MiL PoY, then ML RoY, and then a NL MVP along with a WS ring over a 4 year span the guy has really struggled to get it going. In the three years since he's averaged what, maybe 4 WAR? What kind of upside, what kind of Value, does a player like that have in his late 20s and (*spits then vomits*) his 30s? The Cubs *need* to get the absolute best possible Value out of this situation. It really disgusts me to see how far behind this franchise has fallen behind the Dodgers among others, and if they lock up Bryant to a deal that drags down payroll for years and years without proper and perfect Value it's pretty much set they'll never surpass Friedman's unprecedented successes over there. Do we want that for the Cubs' Future? Is that the goal? To be some team that spends money to retain their best players *knowing* what that does to the Budget and The Future? To take ourselves out of FAs like Anthony Rendon right off the bat?

Bryant may be willing to extend but perhaps the Cubs should be most willing to say no. They could easily let him hit FA, collect the draft pick, and use that draft pick to go get the next Bryant who would be a dozen years younger and maybe even perhaps have more potential. Some people think age is nothing but a number but Baseball Stats wise it's like the main number along with $/WAR and those are two things Bryant has no shot at being an MVP in


this feels like something that should have been hand-written and snail-mailed to like three dozen newspapers across the country
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I simply can’t move past the Random Capitalization
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weis21 wrote:I simply can’t move past the Random Capitalization

That is oddly enough his porn name.
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Mr clutch indeed

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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:37 am

...yeah, but what about when he hits at Busch?
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Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:09 am

Figure out a way to extend this man, please.


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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:51 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:Figure out a way to extend this man, please.




unfortunately, the evil Ricketts know only one way to extend someone:
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jersey cubs fan wrote:https://twitter.com/nsbbcom/status/1196831078859902977


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