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Albert Almora sucks

Postby ConstableRabbit » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:12 pm

Over the last calendar year, there are 165 guys who have had at least 450 plate appearances.
Players with a lower wRC+ than Almora:
Brandon Crawford
Billy Hamilton

He's 163 of 165 players. That's right, the bottom 1%. 99% of players have performer better than Almora.


Over the course of the second half of this season, of Cubs hitters, he’s tied for last in fWAR (Taylor Davis, Maldonado, and the entire pitching staff are ahead of him). Over that span he's putting up .217./236/.391
.260 wOBA
2.7% BB rate, 27.4% K rate

Am I missing something? Why is he still on the team and why is he playing so much? He's also never been sent down since being called up!
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Re: Albert Almora sucks

Postby badger » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:20 pm

At this point I'm more pissed at Thed than I am Joe. Just take his horsefeathering toy away.
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Postby ConstableRabbit » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:20 pm

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Joe being forced to play Almora because he was Theo's first pick or something.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:21 pm

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Sammy Sofa wrote:Image

Joe being forced to play Almora because he was Theo's first pick or something.


The petty, bitter side of me (only a side?) is convinced this is the case. Nothing else makes sense.
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Postby CyHawk_Cub » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:56 pm

Almora and Baez are opposite sides of the same rare coin: the only two times my strong day 1 bias about Cubs amateur draft picks have proven to be correct.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:01 pm

HATE! HATE! HATE!

He isn't even a good fielder. He's at -3 DRS this year, which is 8th best for CF'ers with at least 700 innings (he's at 708), if you take it down to 500 innings he's 17th best. If you go back to 2016, since he's been in the league, he's at +5 DRS which is 20th best in MLB over that span of guys who have played 2,000 innings (he's at 2,400).
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:05 pm

heyward was scratched and Almora was not put in the lineup. That is good.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:10 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:heyward was scratched and Almora was not put in the lineup. That is good.


Moves like that and PH Kemp for him last night have me irrationally hoping that these dopes are just finally running out the string with him.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:14 pm

He just needs a fair shot at developing maybe?
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TomtheBombadil wrote:He just needs a fair shot at developing maybe?

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Postby KingCubsFan » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:33 am

He’s become Joe’s Neifi
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Postby PackLandVA » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:50 am

I don’t blame Joe at all. In fact, I applaud him. There’s been a fair amount of dead weight on the bench and in the bullpen all season. At some point, you almost have to use them. I’d play Almora everyday until he gets better (doubtful) or until his stats become even more comical than they already are.

Joe doesn’t build the bench. Joe doesn’t build the bullpen. Joe doesn’t build the roster.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:00 pm

PackLandVA wrote:I don’t blame Joe at all. In fact, I applaud him. There’s been a fair amount of dead weight on the bench and in the bullpen all season. At some point, you almost have to use them. I’d play Almora everyday until he gets better (doubtful) or until his stats become even more comical than they already are.

What?

At some point you almost have to use them?

That's not been the issue with Almora. He's been used early and often.
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Postby PackLandVA » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:57 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:
PackLandVA wrote:I don’t blame Joe at all. In fact, I applaud him. There’s been a fair amount of dead weight on the bench and in the bullpen all season. At some point, you almost have to use them. I’d play Almora everyday until he gets better (doubtful) or until his stats become even more comical than they already are.

What?

At some point you almost have to use them?

That's not been the issue with Almora. He's been used early and often.


That sentence is not specifically about Almora, but about the dead weight in general. The bench has been trash all season. Joe doesn’t have a 25 man roster. He can’t keep trotting our the same 8 position players everyday. Because, less face it, a couple of those guys aren’t everyday players.
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Re: Albert Almora sucks

Postby ConstableRabbit » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:03 pm

PackLandVA wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
PackLandVA wrote:I don’t blame Joe at all. In fact, I applaud him. There’s been a fair amount of dead weight on the bench and in the bullpen all season. At some point, you almost have to use them. I’d play Almora everyday until he gets better (doubtful) or until his stats become even more comical than they already are.

What?

At some point you almost have to use them?

That's not been the issue with Almora. He's been used early and often.


That sentence is not specifically about Almora, but about the dead weight in general. The bench has been trash all season. Joe doesn’t have a 25 man roster. He can’t keep trotting our the same 8 position players everyday. Because, less face it, a couple of those guys aren’t everyday players.

For example, Descalso has like 6 PAs since July 5th and has only been on the IL for 10 days in that period.
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Postby squally1313 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:08 pm

PackLandVA wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
PackLandVA wrote:I don’t blame Joe at all. In fact, I applaud him. There’s been a fair amount of dead weight on the bench and in the bullpen all season. At some point, you almost have to use them. I’d play Almora everyday until he gets better (doubtful) or until his stats become even more comical than they already are.

What?

At some point you almost have to use them?

That's not been the issue with Almora. He's been used early and often.


That sentence is not specifically about Almora, but about the dead weight in general. The bench has been trash all season. Joe doesn’t have a 25 man roster. He can’t keep trotting our the same 8 position players everyday. Because, less face it, a couple of those guys aren’t everyday players.


"I'd play Almora everyday until he gets better"
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Re: Albert Almora sucks

Postby PackLandVA » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:16 pm

squally1313 wrote:
PackLandVA wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:What?

At some point you almost have to use them?

That's not been the issue with Almora. He's been used early and often.


That sentence is not specifically about Almora, but about the dead weight in general. The bench has been trash all season. Joe doesn’t have a 25 man roster. He can’t keep trotting our the same 8 position players everyday. Because, less face it, a couple of those guys aren’t everyday players.


"I'd play Almora everyday until he gets better"


Umm, conveniently left out a word.
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Re: Albert Almora sucks

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:21 pm

PackLandVA wrote:
squally1313 wrote:
PackLandVA wrote:
That sentence is not specifically about Almora, but about the dead weight in general. The bench has been trash all season. Joe doesn’t have a 25 man roster. He can’t keep trotting our the same 8 position players everyday. Because, less face it, a couple of those guys aren’t everyday players.


"I'd play Almora everyday until he gets better"


Umm, conveniently left out a word.

Just including the word doubtful doesn't make the statement make any more sense.
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Re: Albert Almora sucks

Postby stitchface » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:53 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:
PackLandVA wrote:
squally1313 wrote:
"I'd play Almora everyday until he gets better"


Umm, conveniently left out a word.

Just including the word doubtful doesn't make the statement make any more sense.



Obviously his point is the roster is deficient not that Almora will get better.
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Re: Albert Almora sucks

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:59 pm

stitchface wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
PackLandVA wrote:
Umm, conveniently left out a word.

Just including the word doubtful doesn't make the statement make any more sense.



Obviously his point is the roster is deficient not that Almora will get better.

I get that. The roster is deficient. But Maddon's insistence on using Almora as much as he's done makes it even more inefficient. Saying you'd play Almora everyday is nonsensical. It's not a solution to anything.

You can critique the roster all you want but that still doesn't justify Almora's playing time.
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Postby stitchface » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:01 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:
stitchface wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:Just including the word doubtful doesn't make the statement make any more sense.



Obviously his point is the roster is deficient not that Almora will get better.

I get that. The roster is deficient. But Maddon's insistence on using Almora as much as he's done makes it even more inefficient. Saying you'd play Almora everyday is nonsensical. It's not a solution to anything.

You can critique the roster all you want but that still doesn't justify Almora's playing time.



It's cutting off your nose to spite your face. but hey, maddon is confident of an extension.
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Re: Albert Almora sucks

Postby squally1313 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:04 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:
stitchface wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:Just including the word doubtful doesn't make the statement make any more sense.



Obviously his point is the roster is deficient not that Almora will get better.

I get that. The roster is deficient. But Maddon's insistence on using Almora as much as he's done makes it even more inefficient. Saying you'd play Almora everyday is nonsensical. It's not a solution to anything.

You can critique the roster all you want but that still doesn't justify Almora's playing time.


With the way Heyward has played pretty much all year, even with the Descalsos of the roster, you could still kinda look at it as Bote vs Almora. The fact that Almora has 33 more PAs of putting up a 70 wRC vs Bote's 100 is pretty inexcusable.
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Re: Albert Almora sucks

Postby ConstableRabbit » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:24 pm

squally1313 wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
stitchface wrote:

Obviously his point is the roster is deficient not that Almora will get better.

I get that. The roster is deficient. But Maddon's insistence on using Almora as much as he's done makes it even more inefficient. Saying you'd play Almora everyday is nonsensical. It's not a solution to anything.

You can critique the roster all you want but that still doesn't justify Almora's playing time.


With the way Heyward has played pretty much all year, even with the Descalsos of the roster, you could still kinda look at it as Bote vs Almora. The fact that Almora has 33 more PAs of putting up a 70 wRC vs Bote's 100 is pretty inexcusable.

It could be a tradeoff situation using metrics we aren't aware of.

Example: if Almora doesn't play, you need to put Heyward in CF which means he's not in RF. Maybe the Cubs value him more in RF and worried about that drop. It also means Bryant is in RF because Castellanos/Schwarber can't play RF, which means Bote is playing 3B.
For example if the Cubs think that:
Almora defense in CF > Heyward defense in CF
Heyward defense in RF > Bryant defense in RF
Bryant defense at 3B > Bote defense at 3B

Then there's a possibility that the above outweighs Bote vs. Almora at the plate. I don't believe those pieces to be true but the Cubs might. If they think that way, my hypothesis is that Zobrist coming back will make Almora more expendable.
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Re: Albert Almora sucks

Postby Omar » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:28 pm

just got off the phone with theo

almora will be sent down when zobrist gets back.
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