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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:52 pm

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TomtheBombadil wrote:iPads didn't even come out until after opening day in 2010


soooo 7 years before his last year with the yankees? what's your point lol


2010 is also +1 year after the whole binder thing and also the WS winning thing

So then what happened when information started becoming more readily and easily available?
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:53 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:
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soooo 7 years before his last year with the yankees? what's your point lol


2010 is also +1 year after the whole binder thing and also the WS winning thing

So then what happened when information started becoming more readily and easily available?

Bigger binders.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:59 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:So then what happened when information started becoming more readily and easily available?


Probably laughed, called it a bundle of sticks, and beat up some nerds? That and swearing off all these new fangled technology, a fad if you ask him, seems most likely
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:12 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:So then what happened when information started becoming more readily and easily available?


Probably laughed, called it a bundle of sticks, and beat up some nerds? That and swearing off all these new fangled technology, a fad if you ask him, seems most likely

No he totally embraced it. That intern is still trying to "print and bind fangraphs" for him, but whew boy wait til he gets his hands on it.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:15 am

He's so smart he made his binders out of iPads.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby squally1313 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:18 am

I loved getting mad at Maddon as much as anyone else here, because he made a lot of very dumb, wrong decisions. But it's hard for me to care much at all about who they end up, because looking around the league, it's going to be someone who also makes dumb, wrong decisions pretty much regardless of who it is. Hopefully it gets wrapped up quickly, and I'm hoping it's not Ross because I honestly want it to be someone as low profile as possible.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:20 am

Given the way the league has trended and especially given how the Cubs have stagnated, it feels like we shouldn’t be looking at how much candidates love numbers as the primary differentiator(though that does matter), but how they develop/improve players.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:22 am

Why am I defending Joe Girardi lol? He's not even close to the manager I want for the Cubs. Might be one of those weird attachments made as a wee lad as I sat with pa-pa by the fire sipping piping hot chocolate and was told stories
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby Regular Show » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:31 am


A little off-topic, but I always wanted Dan Haren to come back to the Cubs as a pitching instructor/coach. He's hilarious and his politics and views on baseball are refreshing. Most players are idiots (look at Matt Garza's Twitter account) and have dumb takes on the sport, but he doesn't fall in that category.

I believe he's working for the D'backs right now. Maybe we can get him at some point down the road.

EDIT: I have no problem with Tommy Hottovy and think he's a fine pitching coach. Darvish speaks highly of him so I think we should keep him. I'm sure the new manager will be okay with him too.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby Deeg » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:21 am

CubinNY wrote:I don't think Girardi has learned anything. He's steeped in "old school" ideas. There is probably a very good reason he hasn't managed since 2017. I don't know why the Cubs would even interview him.



He could have had his pick of a couple of jobs last winter but chose to wait out the Cubs.

I'm undecided on who my personal choice is but part of my wants to see Girardi hired just for the apoplexy factor with certain people.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:53 am

I expect Ross to be the next guy, and whatever, that'd be just fine I suspect, but I continue to hope they get someone like Espada from the Astros. I admit I'm being reactionary about 2016 navel-gazing; nostalgia being something I'd rather leave to "I want it to be the 1950's again" baby boomers.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:21 pm

Girardi’s real undoing wasnt the just binders, it was forcing the bullpen to sing “binders” over “amps” in this song while waiting out rain delays


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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby GaryWoods » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:22 pm

The evil part of me wants them to bring in Mike Matheny. Not because I think he'd be a good fit; I just have a few friends who are Cardinal fans who have an irrational affection for the dude and are still butthurt that the Cards let him go, and I'd love to witness their reactions.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby Stu » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:15 pm

if it's Loretta, Chris Berman can revive his "Mark Loretta 'Modern'" schtick
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby Regular Show » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:15 pm

GaryWoods wrote:The evil part of me wants them to bring in Mike Matheny...

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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby 17 Seconds » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:36 pm

Stu wrote:if it's Loretta, Chris Berman can revive his "Mark Loretta 'Modern'" schtick


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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:47 am

Please get him






Espada’s availability depends on Houston’s playoff schedule, but the Cubs would like to speak with someone who has spent the last two seasons inside a cutting-edge organization, working next to Astros manager A.J. Hinch.

It’s easy to connect the dots between Espada, 44, and the Cubs. Hinch worked in San Diego’s front office when general manager Jed Hoyer ran the Padres. After Hoyer moved to Chicago, Hinch interviewed for the managerial job that went to Rick Renteria after the 2013 season. Hinch’s last bench coach, Alex Cora, earned a World Series ring with the 2017 Astros and then managed the Red Sox to 108 wins and last year’s World Series title.

Espada spent four years as a pro scout and third-base coach with the Yankees (2014-17), another franchise the Cubs are analyzing as they try to accelerate their player development at the major-league level. Espada’s brother-in-law is Brandon Hyde, the Orioles manager who served as a farm director and a big-league coach as the Cubs transformed from a rebuilding team into World Series champs.

Espada’s roots as an instructor are in the minor leagues with the Marlins, an organization that has incubated a lot of coaching talent for the Cubs (Hyde, Tim Cossins, John Mallee, Andy Haines, Anthony Iapoce) over the years. Espada was also a coach for the Puerto Rican team that featured Javier Báez in the 2017 World Baseball Classic.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby SpongeWorthy » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:59 am

what if the dodgers choke tomorrow and Roberts is let go?
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby TMan92 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:12 am

SpongeWorthy wrote:what if the dodgers choke tomorrow and Roberts is let go?


Hard pass.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:35 am

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SpongeWorthy wrote:what if the dodgers choke tomorrow and Roberts is let go?


Hard pass.

Yup. No interest. Seems like a guy the Mets or Phillies throw real money at because they feel he brings some special sauce or something. When really he’s been given a good team in a bad division and just follows the FO instructions more or less and one of these low cost hires can do just as much as he does.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby UK » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:45 am

SpongeWorthy wrote:what if the dodgers choke tomorrow and Roberts is let go?


The only coach I want from LA is Prior.
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:55 pm

I'm not very impressed with Roberts the tactician(although admittedly that's in the playoffs which are a slightly different animal), but if I'm going to live up to my words about caring the most about player development, I can't ignore that the Dodgers have been the absolute gold standard at it. Yes they've had plenty of top prospects, but they've all hit, and they also have been able to resurrect careers too(Muncy, Turner, Hill, Morrow, etc)
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Re: Cubs Manager Search

Postby Regular Show » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:26 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:I'm not very impressed with Roberts the tactician(although admittedly that's in the playoffs which are a slightly different animal), but if I'm going to live up to my words about caring the most about player development, I can't ignore that the Dodgers have been the absolute gold standard at it. Yes they've had plenty of top prospects, but they've all hit, and they also have been able to resurrect careers too(Muncy, Turner, Hill, Morrow, etc)


Yeah, I'm not impressed either but it feels like every manager makes some tactical blunders in the playoffs or their team gets eliminated before they get the chance or they just finished playing the Twins...

I'd really need to talk to my friends on the west coast that are Dodgers fans to get a full understanding of the Pros and Cons of Dave Roberts. I have a friend (Braves fan) that was kinda shocked the Cubs were letting Maddon leave even though it's not a surprise to any of us here.

I think Roberts is probably a top 10 manager (and maybe even top 5 after talking to friends/scouts). I think you'd be crazy not to interview him at least if he became available and you have an opening during that time.
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