I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:20 pm

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Transmogrified Tiger wrote:I don't really have anything against Tim Tebow the person, he seems like a good enough dude. But I don't want to hear anything about him and baseball. He hit .194/.296/.242 in the Arizona Fall League, he wasn't even committing full time to it with football commentary commitments, and he turns 30 this year. He is less than nothing in the eyes of baseball until he actually does something, several extended somethings actually.


I guess I don't watch as much sportscenter as I used to, and had only heard of his attempt at baseballing here at NSB. I just kind of shrugged it off as a non-thing. I just don't get the hate, but if it is filling up people's news feed it would get old.

Growing up in South Bend I grew to dislike Notre Dame because, when looking for Cubs news, all I could get in the paper or local news was that Lou Holtz's mother-in-law had a hangnail - front page. I could see it getting old.

people in the twitterverse noted a couple days ago that MLB itself had promoted Tebow over social media far more frequently than they had the greatest player in the league, Trout.
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby Bull » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:26 pm

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Transmogrified Tiger wrote:I don't really have anything against Tim Tebow the person, he seems like a good enough dude. But I don't want to hear anything about him and baseball. He hit .194/.296/.242 in the Arizona Fall League, he wasn't even committing full time to it with football commentary commitments, and he turns 30 this year. He is less than nothing in the eyes of baseball until he actually does something, several extended somethings actually.


I guess I don't watch as much sportscenter as I used to, and had only heard of his attempt at baseballing here at NSB. I just kind of shrugged it off as a non-thing. I just don't get the hate, but if it is filling up people's news feed it would get old.

Growing up in South Bend I grew to dislike Notre Dame because, when looking for Cubs news, all I could get in the paper or local news was that Lou Holtz's mother-in-law had a hangnail - front page. I could see it getting old.

people in the twitterverse noted a couple days ago that MLB itself had promoted Tebow over social media far more frequently than they had the greatest player in the league, Trout.


Yeah, that's Holtzian. I get it now.
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Postby Banedon » Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:43 pm

Sorry to interrupt the Tebow talk.

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Postby Agony and Ivy » Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:07 pm

Banedon wrote:Sorry to interrupt the Tebow talk.



I'm reading that now. The Instagram video Darnell McDonald posted is a completely different swing than last year. If that's what he eventually gets to in game action it would be awesome.
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Sammy Sofa wrote:Tebow is the living version of the DickButt drawing. It's exceedingly fun to watch him repeatedly fail at everything.


New thread title request: I like Dickbutts and I Cannot Lie: The Tim Tebow Thread
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby The Logan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:51 am

Sure would be neat if Heyward fulfilled those Griffey, Jr. comps this year.
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:24 am

Steve: Have you seen Heywards new swing? Besides being way to early to see if its sustainable or productive for him, does the loading and swing path look more natural and promising than what he previously had?
Klaw: On video, and talked to scouts who’ve seen it, and basically there’s nothing positive to say right now.
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby biittner77 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:36 pm

Who's Klaw?
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:38 pm

biittner77 wrote:Who's Klaw?

Keith Law. Definitely way in the know.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:43 pm

biittner77 wrote:Who's Klaw?


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Postby biittner77 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:49 pm

We Got The Whole 9 wrote:
biittner77 wrote:Who's Klaw?

Keith Law. Definitely way in the know.


Isn't he a pretty notorious Cubs hater or am I confusing him with someone else?

I don't claim to know anything about a baseball swing but didn't Derrek Lee make the same adjustment that Heyward is trying to make now?
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:02 pm

Keith Law as Cubs hater is a story prospect pollyannas tell themselves whenever he rates their guy lower than others.
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Postby Banedon » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:02 pm

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Postby UMFan83 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:34 pm

biittner77 wrote:Who's Klaw?


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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby wade » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:47 pm

Law rated Heyward as the best free agent available two years ago. Granted, he mostly praised his defensive abilities, but suggested that Heyward could return to hitting with more power and even cited "more mechanical work" as a way to get there.

Nobody is right every time. Hopefully he was right two years ago and wrong two days ago.
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby David » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:31 pm

the idea of keith law being seen as a cubs hater is hilariously insane

the dude would eat theo's turds
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:04 pm

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We Got The Whole 9 wrote:
biittner77 wrote:Who's Klaw?

Keith Law. Definitely way in the know.


Isn't he a pretty notorious Cubs hater or am I confusing him with someone else?

I don't claim to know anything about a baseball swing but didn't Derrek Lee make the same adjustment that Heyward is trying to make now?

He's not a hater but he doesn't mind telling overzealous Cub fans that they're wishing on the highest star in regards to their hopes for certain prospects... and he usually does it in the most abrasive way he can.
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby SpongeWorthy » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:03 am

Klaw douchey tendencies are more generalized than specific

He did take " I don't remember asking for your opinion" out of his Twitter bio so maybe he is getting more self aware?
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Postby SpongeWorthy » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:06 am

He also said in that same chat that Russell's ceiling is MVP caliber and he expects the bat to really improve
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:21 am

yeah, law definitely is a douche. every chat has at least one person asking a simple question that he gives some dickheaded answer to. But when it comes to opinions he's better than most at actually having a reasoned one.
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby gobigred » Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:26 pm

How long until Heyward gets a hit in Arizona? He is 0-13 so far. Can he get to 0-20 maybe 0-25?
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:09 am

gobigred wrote:How long until Heyward gets a hit in Arizona? He is 0-13 so far. Can he get to 0-20 maybe 0-25?


I can't envision a scenario where he gets a hit ever again
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