I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

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Re: Ja5on HeyWARd thread

Postby Tracer Bullet » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:53 pm

So close

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Re: Ja5on HeyWARd thread

Postby David » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:53 pm

Theo was on with Spiegel and Parkins, said Heyward has been looking promising vs. live pitching and his bat path is looking more like 2012, if not a little better.
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Re: Ja5on HeyWARd thread

Postby Derwood » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:25 pm

Jas0n HeyWARd?
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Re: Ja5on HeyWARd thread

Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:41 pm

David wrote:Theo was on with Spiegel and Parkins, said Heyward has been looking promising vs. live pitching and his bat path is looking more like 2012, if not a little better.


But did he also confirm whether or not he is indeed in the bast shape of his life?
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Re: Ja5on HeyWARd thread

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:05 pm

Derwood wrote:Jas0n HeyWARd?

Jason H3yWARd
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Re: Ja5on HeyWARd thread

Postby bukie » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:07 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
Derwood wrote:Jas0n HeyWARd?

Jason H3yWARd
J4son HeyWARd

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Re: Ja5on HeyWARd thread

Postby Derwood » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:14 pm

Maybe we should update the thread title as the season goes
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Re: Ja5on HeyWARd thread

Postby treebird » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:38 pm

Derwood wrote:Maybe we should update the thread title as the season goes


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Re: Ja5on HeyWARd thread

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treebird wrote:
Derwood wrote:Maybe we should update the thread title as the season goes


jasad benchward

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Re: Ja5on HeyWARd thread

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Re: Jason tree hates jason heyward Heyward Thread

Postby Derwood » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:26 pm

Whoever changed the title of this thread made it a garbage thread. Garbage title, sad
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Re: Jason tree hates jason heyward Heyward Thread

Postby David » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:39 pm

wtf is this

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Re: Jason tree hates jason heyward Heyward Thread

Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:51 am

What the heck is this.
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Re: I like Jason Heyward and hope he does better thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:07 am

We tried to let Derwood pitch his way out of trouble, but it's time to go to the bullpen.
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Re: I like Jason Heyward and hope he does better thread

Postby Derwood » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:45 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:We tried to let Derwood pitch his way out of trouble, but it's time to go to the bullpen.


I had a solid HOLD on this one, then whatever mod came out of the pen with the "tree hates Jason" title blew the lead.
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I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby Tracer Bullet » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:31 pm

Are we gonna have to limit the posters allowed to title threads now?
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby David » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:35 pm

who horsefeathers up sometime after 2:30 yesterday?
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby Derwood » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:36 pm

Tracer Bullet wrote:Are we gonna have to limit the MODS allowed to RETITLE threads now?


Yes, I think that's wise
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby biittner77 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:13 pm

Derwood wrote:
Tracer Bullet wrote:Are we gonna have to limit the MODS allowed to RETITLE threads now?


Yes, I think that's wise


There's still a few more I'd like to see:

"Jason Heyward doesn't care that Tree hates him more than cancer"

"Jason Heyward: chicken salad"

"Jason Heyward will stop being Todd Hundley"
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby wade » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:43 pm

This will draw me out on the dance floor after being a wallflower for 5 years.

I think Heyward will bounce back at the plate this year. First, he almost has to- he could hardly have a worse year than last season. But, I also think the changes in his swing mechanics were absolutely necessary for him to be more productive. The following is my opinion, based on my personal understanding of a good, fundamental baseball swing. (If you want to skip the rest, just know that I think he will be quicker to the ball and actually be able to hit for more power this year)

There are two main camps of hitting mechanics instruction. They are rotational and linear. Some popular proponents of each believe that the other is totally wrong. However, the best hitting coaches use components of both hitting philosophies and don't try to put every athlete into the same cookie-cutter methodology.

Heyward, according to what I've seen on video, has always be a very rotational hitter. That's not always a bad thing. Ted Williams was a pretty decent hitter, and he is a rotational poster boy. But it looks like, especially this past season, Heyward got "too rotational". The Sean Casey analysis was very good- Heyward hardly off got off his backside last year and to compensate, sped up his hands. If you rotate too much on your backside, you lose power. You can also end up with a longer path to contact. Heyward's swing last year was very long to the ball and short through it. You want the opposite.

And that's what it looks like he's working on in these new videos. Like Casey said, he's now making a bit of a linear (Casey didn't use that word, but that's what he's doing) move toward the pitcher and getting off his back side. Now, he still needs to keep his head behind the ball and rotate against his front leg, and his changes seem to be helping him with that. In other words, you can't ONLY laterally shift your weight, you still rotate. Again, I agree with what Casey said in his video, and I think this change will give him more power. Power that he should have, since he is built like Jack Reacher (book version, not Tom Cruise)

The other thing his new swing has that's different is a quicker path to the ball. Casey didn't mention this, but I'm sure he'd agree with me (haha).

Last year, Heyward let the bat wrap back around his head during his load. This meant he had to swing it way back around to get to contact. Sometimes players will do this in a misguided attempt to get more power. He's now (at least in that workout video) keeping the barrel more upright during his load and therefore will have a much quicker and shorter swing to the ball, as well as being longer through the zone, as his extension should now come after contact, whereas before he'd sometimes be fully extended at contact with the ball, which is a much weaker position.

The other benefit of being quick to the ball is that you have an additional couple of split seconds to judge a pitch. Doesn't sound like much, but for these guys, that's gold, both with pitch recognition and having power to all fields because you can "let it travel" a little deeper.

There you have it. He can print this out and put it next to his comeback player of the year award in 8 months.
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby Omar » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:29 am

Tim Tebow has a better swing than Jason Heyward.
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby wade » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:21 pm



There may be a more recent analysis of Tebow's swing, but it's pretty bad in the video above. And, what's interesting to me, is that it looks a lot like Heyward's from last year. Spinning on his back foot, fully extended arms at contact instead of after, and the bat wrapped back around his head during his load.

Just about everything that the guy doing the analysis points out in Donaldson's swing appears to be the exact changes that Heyward is working on.

I'd love to see something recent regarding Tebow and see if he's making changes as well.
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:49 pm

wade wrote:I'd love to see something recent regarding Tebow


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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby biittner77 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:27 pm

I'd like to see Tebow make the Mets roster and hit around .265 with about maybe 18 HRs. That would put him squarely in the middle of people with nothing better to do getting bent out of shape over whether or not he's any good. I'm also fine with never hearing about him again.
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Re: I like Gold Gloves and I cannot lie: the Jason Heyward thread

Postby Banedon » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:34 pm

I would not like Tebow to have any kind of success....certainly not 18 HR's worth of it.
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