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 Post subject: Re: Walks
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:04 am 
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Nuts&Gum wrote:
Piniella and co. took over before the 2007 season.

I think a couple here have confused 2008 and 2009 for 2007 and 2008.


Yep, you're right. For some reason I was thinking Lou was here for 3 years instead of four.

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 Post subject: Re: Walks
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:29 am 
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dew wrote:
Nuts&Gum wrote:
Piniella and co. took over before the 2007 season.

I think a couple here have confused 2008 and 2009 for 2007 and 2008.


Yep, you're right. For some reason I was thinking Lou was here for 3 years instead of four.


But was he really HERE for much of 2010?

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 Post subject: Re: Walks
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:25 am 
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West Side Rooter wrote:
dew wrote:
Nuts&Gum wrote:
Piniella and co. took over before the 2007 season.

I think a couple here have confused 2008 and 2009 for 2007 and 2008.


Yep, you're right. For some reason I was thinking Lou was here for 3 years instead of four.


But was he really HERE for much of 2010?
That's about what I was going to say. Physically he was here almost four years. Mentally he was here three years.

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 Post subject: Re: Walks
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:43 am 
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EhDubya wrote:
The Cubs are dead last in MLB with 264 total BB. The Yankees are first with 421 and BoSox have 415.

This stat does not shock me like it probably should. Bring up Vitters, he'll fit right in!


It's an organizational issue. Look at their minor league affiliates:

Iowa ranks last out of 16 teams in the PCL with 353 walks. Top team (Tacoma) has 515.

Tennessee ranks 8th out of 10 teams in the Southern league with 361 walks. Top team (Jacksonville) has 464, bottom team (Mississippi) has 353.

Daytona ranks 9th out of 12 teams in the FSL with 333 walks. Top team (Bradenton) has 446, bottom team (Clearwater) has 285.

Peoria ranks 15th out of 16 teams in the Midwest league with 297 walks. Top team (Lansing) has 431, bottom team (West Michigan) has 286.


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 Post subject: Re: Walks
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:41 pm 
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dfnowak wrote:
EhDubya wrote:
The Cubs are dead last in MLB with 264 total BB. The Yankees are first with 421 and BoSox have 415.

This stat does not shock me like it probably should. Bring up Vitters, he'll fit right in!


It's an organizational issue. Look at their minor league affiliates:

Iowa ranks last out of 16 teams in the PCL with 353 walks. Top team (Tacoma) has 515.

Tennessee ranks 8th out of 10 teams in the Southern league with 361 walks. Top team (Jacksonville) has 464, bottom team (Mississippi) has 353.

Daytona ranks 9th out of 12 teams in the FSL with 333 walks. Top team (Bradenton) has 446, bottom team (Clearwater) has 285.

Peoria ranks 15th out of 16 teams in the Midwest league with 297 walks. Top team (Lansing) has 431, bottom team (West Michigan) has 286.


That is absolutely painful to read.

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 Post subject: Re: Walks
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:56 pm 
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But what are the rankings in sac bunts?


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 Post subject: Re: Walks
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:43 pm 
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AceCubbie wrote:
dfnowak wrote:
EhDubya wrote:
The Cubs are dead last in MLB with 264 total BB. The Yankees are first with 421 and BoSox have 415.

This stat does not shock me like it probably should. Bring up Vitters, he'll fit right in!


It's an organizational issue. Look at their minor league affiliates:

Iowa ranks last out of 16 teams in the PCL with 353 walks. Top team (Tacoma) has 515.

Tennessee ranks 8th out of 10 teams in the Southern league with 361 walks. Top team (Jacksonville) has 464, bottom team (Mississippi) has 353.

Daytona ranks 9th out of 12 teams in the FSL with 333 walks. Top team (Bradenton) has 446, bottom team (Clearwater) has 285.

Peoria ranks 15th out of 16 teams in the Midwest league with 297 walks. Top team (Lansing) has 431, bottom team (West Michigan) has 286.


That is absolutely painful to read.


Yikes. Hopefully this is something they can work on with the '10-'11 draft picks. I'd have to assume that plate dicipline is one of the harder things to learn, especially after a few years.

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