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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:18 pm 
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Man, Tom Tunney is such a [expletive] dirtbag.


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Jumbotron, more stuff for kids, better food, better parking for out of town people, more signs, [expletive] the rooftop owners.

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Man, Tom Tunney is such a [expletive] dirtbag.

He embodies the BS political machine in Chicago. Rooftop owners heavily invest/contribute to his campaign and he prevents the Cubs from doing anything that doesn't benefit them. He is a scumbag, douche politician.


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Keep the ivy, keep the scoreboard. Those are iconic.

Screw everything else.

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The Logan wrote:
Keep the ivy, keep the scoreboard. Those are iconic.

Screw everything else.


Pretty much this.

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The Logan wrote:
Keep the ivy, keep the scoreboard. Those are iconic.

Screw everything else.


Pretty much this.


Keep the Wrigley sign on the outside as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Schuster - Major Wrigley renovation coming?
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Banedon wrote:
El Duderino wrote:
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Keep the ivy, keep the scoreboard. Those are iconic.

Screw everything else.


Pretty much this.


Keep the Wrigley sign on the outside as well.


I wouldn't mind seeing them expand the scoreboard to be able to show all the games instead of just select ones.

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Or tear down the scoreboard and re-create it electronically.


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 Post subject: Re: Schuster - Major Wrigley renovation coming?
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I did the Wrigley tour a few years ago. We went through the clubhouse, under the bleachers, the radio and TV booths etc. We also did a tour of the scoreboard. It's remarkably cramped inside and HOT which you would expect. There is rust and peeling paint everywhere and it is apparently a nightmare to maintain. I've sat in the bleachers under the scoreboard and had to listen to the buzzing and loud CLANK noises with every pitch and out. Nostalgia aside, the thing is an embarrassment and should be replaced. I'm ok with something that looks the same but has more modern functionality. It could easily be replaced with an electronic version that is the same size and also offers a replay screen, stats etc.


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I did the Wrigley tour a few years ago. We went through the clubhouse, under the bleachers, the radio and TV booths etc. We also did a tour of the scoreboard. It's remarkably cramped inside and HOT which you would expect. There is rust and peeling paint everywhere and it is apparently a nightmare to maintain. I've sat in the bleachers under the scoreboard and had to listen to the buzzing and loud CLANK noises with every pitch and out. Nostalgia aside, the thing is an embarrassment and should be replaced. I'm ok with something that looks the same but has more modern functionality. It could easily be replaced with an electronic version that is the same size and also offers a replay screen, stats etc.


This makes very little sense. Who in their right mind is embarrassed by the presence of that scoreboard? And no, you can't easily replace it with an electronic version that is the same size with replay screen and stats. Any replacement with a screen is going to require a much bigger size and/or much less information on the screen.

They'd be better off maintaining and upgrading the board as is, and adding additional screens elsewhere in the stadium.


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 Post subject: Re: Schuster - Major Wrigley renovation coming?
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BeerHere wrote:
I did the Wrigley tour a few years ago. We went through the clubhouse, under the bleachers, the radio and TV booths etc. We also did a tour of the scoreboard. It's remarkably cramped inside and HOT which you would expect. There is rust and peeling paint everywhere and it is apparently a nightmare to maintain. I've sat in the bleachers under the scoreboard and had to listen to the buzzing and loud CLANK noises with every pitch and out. Nostalgia aside, the thing is an embarrassment and should be replaced. I'm ok with something that looks the same but has more modern functionality. It could easily be replaced with an electronic version that is the same size and also offers a replay screen, stats etc.


This makes very little sense. Who in their right mind is embarrassed by the presence of that scoreboard? And no, you can't easily replace it with an electronic version that is the same size with replay screen and stats. Any replacement with a screen is going to require a much bigger size and/or much less information on the screen.

They'd be better off maintaining and upgrading the board as is, and adding additional screens elsewhere in the stadium.


I'm in my right mind and I'm embarrassed by the thing. I disagree that it would need to be MUCH bigger - a lot of the current scoreboard is wasted green space. The board in Minute Maid Park isn't much bigger, same for Lucas Oil Field yet they offer modern functionality.

Have you ever sat beneath the scoreboard? BRRRRRRR.....CLUNK! is a common sound. It needs to go. I'm sure the new park in Hoffman Estates will have a better scoreboard.


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jersey cubs fan wrote:
BeerHere wrote:
I did the Wrigley tour a few years ago. We went through the clubhouse, under the bleachers, the radio and TV booths etc. We also did a tour of the scoreboard. It's remarkably cramped inside and HOT which you would expect. There is rust and peeling paint everywhere and it is apparently a nightmare to maintain. I've sat in the bleachers under the scoreboard and had to listen to the buzzing and loud CLANK noises with every pitch and out. Nostalgia aside, the thing is an embarrassment and should be replaced. I'm ok with something that looks the same but has more modern functionality. It could easily be replaced with an electronic version that is the same size and also offers a replay screen, stats etc.


This makes very little sense. Who in their right mind is embarrassed by the presence of that scoreboard? And no, you can't easily replace it with an electronic version that is the same size with replay screen and stats. Any replacement with a screen is going to require a much bigger size and/or much less information on the screen.

They'd be better off maintaining and upgrading the board as is, and adding additional screens elsewhere in the stadium.


I'm in my right mind and I'm embarrassed by the thing. I disagree that it would need to be MUCH bigger - a lot of the current scoreboard is wasted green space. The board in Minute Maid Park isn't much bigger, same for Lucas Oil Field yet they offer modern functionality.

Have you ever sat beneath the scoreboard? BRRRRRRR.....CLUNK! is a common sound. It needs to go. I'm sure the new park in Hoffman Estates will have a better scoreboard.


don't sit beneath the scoreboard then. problem solved.

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 Post subject: Re: Schuster - Major Wrigley renovation coming?
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jersey cubs fan wrote:
BeerHere wrote:
I did the Wrigley tour a few years ago. We went through the clubhouse, under the bleachers, the radio and TV booths etc. We also did a tour of the scoreboard. It's remarkably cramped inside and HOT which you would expect. There is rust and peeling paint everywhere and it is apparently a nightmare to maintain. I've sat in the bleachers under the scoreboard and had to listen to the buzzing and loud CLANK noises with every pitch and out. Nostalgia aside, the thing is an embarrassment and should be replaced. I'm ok with something that looks the same but has more modern functionality. It could easily be replaced with an electronic version that is the same size and also offers a replay screen, stats etc.


This makes very little sense. Who in their right mind is embarrassed by the presence of that scoreboard? And no, you can't easily replace it with an electronic version that is the same size with replay screen and stats. Any replacement with a screen is going to require a much bigger size and/or much less information on the screen.

They'd be better off maintaining and upgrading the board as is, and adding additional screens elsewhere in the stadium.


I'm in my right mind and I'm embarrassed by the thing. I disagree that it would need to be MUCH bigger - a lot of the current scoreboard is wasted green space. The board in Minute Maid Park isn't much bigger, same for Lucas Oil Field yet they offer modern functionality.

Have you ever sat beneath the scoreboard? BRRRRRRR.....CLUNK! is a common sound. It needs to go. I'm sure the new park in Hoffman Estates will have a better scoreboard.


I did once, and realized what a crappy seat it is regardless of the scoreboard and moved. Just show up on time next time and you won't have to.


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 Post subject: Re: Schuster - Major Wrigley renovation coming?
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Banedon wrote:
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Keep the ivy, keep the scoreboard. Those are iconic.

Screw everything else.


Pretty much this.


Keep the Wrigley sign on the outside as well.


That too. I was thinking more inside-the-park, but yeah that, too, is special and should remain. Pretty much anything iconic about Wrigley that people immediately think of when the word "Wrigley" is even mentioned should stay. Nobody thinks of the outfield gates when they hear "Wrigley" and then complain about how they ruined the integrity of the ballpark by putting "Under Armour" logos on them. If they do they suck and should be punched in the junk for not wanting the Cubs to generate revenue to improve their ballclub.

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 Post subject: Re: Schuster - Major Wrigley renovation coming?
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I think we should get rid of all the poles because I had to sit behind one one time.

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I think we should get rid of all the poles because I had to sit behind one one time.


I'm right there with you but good luck getting them all to move back to Europe with the economic problems they are having now.


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 Post subject: Re: Schuster - Major Wrigley renovation coming?
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The Logan wrote:
Banedon wrote:
El Duderino wrote:
The Logan wrote:
Keep the ivy, keep the scoreboard. Those are iconic.

Screw everything else.


Pretty much this.


Keep the Wrigley sign on the outside as well.


Pretty much anything iconic about Wrigley that people immediately think of when the word "Wrigley" is even mentioned should stay.

I think of all the obstructed view seats.

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jersey cubs fan wrote:
BeerHere wrote:
I did the Wrigley tour a few years ago. We went through the clubhouse, under the bleachers, the radio and TV booths etc. We also did a tour of the scoreboard. It's remarkably cramped inside and HOT which you would expect. There is rust and peeling paint everywhere and it is apparently a nightmare to maintain. I've sat in the bleachers under the scoreboard and had to listen to the buzzing and loud CLANK noises with every pitch and out. Nostalgia aside, the thing is an embarrassment and should be replaced. I'm ok with something that looks the same but has more modern functionality. It could easily be replaced with an electronic version that is the same size and also offers a replay screen, stats etc.


This makes very little sense. Who in their right mind is embarrassed by the presence of that scoreboard? And no, you can't easily replace it with an electronic version that is the same size with replay screen and stats. Any replacement with a screen is going to require a much bigger size and/or much less information on the screen.

They'd be better off maintaining and upgrading the board as is, and adding additional screens elsewhere in the stadium.


This. The board isn't embarrassing, it looks fine and is integral to the personality of the ballpark. I'm sure it could be overhauled internally to resolve many of the issues, as well as preserve it. Adding other screens around the park is a much better idea.

If we're talking things that need changed/replaced, the scoreboard is waaay down the list. The crumbling grandstands are embarrassing. The player facilities are embarrassing. The concessions are embarrassing. The playing surface was embarrassing.

The scoreboard is a relatively minuscule issue.


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jersey cubs fan wrote:
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I think we should get rid of all the poles because I had to sit behind one one time.


I'm right there with you but good luck getting them all to move back to Europe with the economic problems they are having now.


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Leave the protected landmarks, do NOT mess with the structure of the upper deck and do whatever the hell else you want with the rest of the park.

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I'm sure the new park in Hoffman Estates will have a better scoreboard.

I'm sure all 12,000 fans would have great views of it, too.


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jersey cubs fan wrote:
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I think we should get rid of all the poles because I had to sit behind one one time.


I'm right there with you but good luck getting them all to move back to Europe with the economic problems they are having now.


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That explains a lot.


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On the table is a $500 million or so plan — $300 million to reconstruct the nearly century-old Wrigley and $200 million for the "Triangle" parking, entertainment and multiuse structure off the west wall of the ballpark.

The family and/or team would pay for the Triangle building. That means $300 million is needed for the ballpark proper.

Half would come from the team, presumably in increased revenue from more signage inside Wrigley and retail and other entertainment in what amounts to a game-day carnival on Waveland Avenue on Wrigley's north side and Sheffield Avenue to the east.

And half would come from $150 million or so in bonds to be retired with increased revenue from the existing city and Cook County amusement taxes on ticket sales. Specifically, debt service would get the first 6 percent in growth above a base level of around $15 million a year now.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

The team also wants a 50 percent cut of any increase in amusement tax revenue growth above 6 percent. And unlike the bonds, which would be retired in 30 or 35 years, that would be forever.


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