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 Post subject: Hoyer coming to Chicago
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:51 pm 
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The man deserves his own thread. He's a fantastic addition to the staff and represents a vast improvement over Jim Hendry.

I'll be interested to see what (if anything) we gave up. Can't believe how quickly and quietly negotiations with San Diego have apparently gone.


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The man deserves his own thread. He's a fantastic addition to the staff and represents a vast improvement over Jim Hendry.

I'll be interested to see what (if anything) we gave up. Can't believe how quickly and quietly negotiations with San Diego have apparently gone.


From what I read (can't remember the article now), there's no compensation. Moorad has a good relationship with Ricketts, and wanted Byrnes to be GM anyway. So this is a way to lose Hoyer's salary, keep him happy, and promote the guy he really wants to be GM anyway.


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Rob wrote:
The man deserves his own thread. He's a fantastic addition to the staff and represents a vast improvement over Jim Hendry.

I'll be interested to see what (if anything) we gave up. Can't believe how quickly and quietly negotiations with San Diego have apparently gone.


From what I read (can't remember the article now), there's no compensation. Moorad has a good relationship with Ricketts, and wanted Byrnes to be GM anyway. So this is a way to lose Hoyer's salary, keep him happy, and promote the guy he really wants to be GM anyway.


It was Levine on ESPN


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We gave them nothing, and they liked it.


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This should also be a San Diego Padres appreciation thread-for not being douchebags like the Red Sox.


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We gave them nothing, and they liked it.

It's too bad they didn't want Soriano in return.

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So what do we have to send over to San Diego to get this thing done?

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So what do we have to send over to San Diego to get this thing done?

Scotch.


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Omar wrote:
This should also be a San Diego Padres appreciation thread-for not being douchebags like the Red Sox.


Agreed.

Thank you San Diego for not acting like I did when I was 7 and didn't get the Nintendo game I wanted for Christmas

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Omar wrote:
This should also be a San Diego Padres appreciation thread-for not being douchebags like the Red Sox.


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David wrote:
So what do we have to send over to San Diego to get this thing done?

It's speculated that the Cubs won't have to send any compensation SD's way, since Moorad wanted Byrnes as GM anyway, and he doesn't consider going from GM of the Padres to GM of the Cubs to be a lateral move.

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Big get if officially true. Before Cherington there was Hoyer...

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Rob wrote:
The man deserves his own thread. He's a fantastic addition to the staff...


When word was circulating about Cherington (when Theo wasn't possible) I wished that the conversation was about Hoyer. Now we get Theo AND Hoyer (AND McLeod McLeon or is that McLeon, McLeod)...


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.@ESPNChiCubs reporting that Epstein preferred Byrnes, who said no, then Hoyer, who first asked for extension in SD before saying yes.
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A source told ESPNBoston.com that Epstein originally asked Byrnes to join him in Chicago, but Byrnes declined. Epstein then turned to Hoyer, his longtime friend and former assistant. Hoyer went to Moorad, told him of the offer from Epstein and said he would stay if the Padres gave him a five-year extension. Moorad, though reluctant to lose Hoyer, the source said, said he would not grant him the extension and told him he was free to take the Cubs job.

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Before Hoyer there was Byrnes? Is that the order?

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So what kind of compensation will we be giving up?

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How would you guys classify his tenure(brief) in San Diego? I don't know much about this guy.


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A source told ESPNBoston.com that Epstein originally asked Byrnes to join him in Chicago, but Byrnes declined. Epstein then turned to Hoyer, his longtime friend and former assistant. Hoyer went to Moorad, told him of the offer from Epstein and said he would stay if the Padres gave him a five-year extension. Moorad, though reluctant to lose Hoyer, the source said, said he would not grant him the extension and told him he was free to take the Cubs job.


Quick, someone come argue with everyone for 20 pages about how the Padres are fools for not demanding Andrew Cashner in return.


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Is there such a thing as a Padre fan to come do that?


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Is there such a thing as a Padre fan to come do that?


Well, it didn't take Red Sox fans to do that last time.


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 Post subject: Re: Hoyer coming to Chicago
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I dont like this Hoyer deal. Giving up Cashner for a GM is crazy.

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People here seem less than thrilled with this:
http://forums.signonsandiego.com/showth ... 23&page=11


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minnesotacubsfan wrote:
I dont like this Hoyer deal. Giving up Cashner for a GM is crazy.

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