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Re: The Cardinals

Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:12 am

Norris is on that dust though... wtf he's been straight up dominant
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby champaignchris » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:19 am

Sammys Boombox wrote:
Duke Silver wrote:https://theathletic.com/428599/2018/07/11/bud-norris-st-louis-cardinals-bullpen-jordan-hicks-relationship-mike-matheny/

https://deadspin.com/extremely-cardinal ... 1827528307

These guys are having a good one.


Shhhh! We don’t want Mike getting fired.


How deep into the organization does this horsefeathers go, though? Aren’t the chances high that if they fire Matheny, they’ll hire someone more or less just like him to replace him?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:26 am

I just got around to reading that article, what a horsefeathering joke of an organization. There's totally going to be a actual fight in the dugout or clubhouse with that team at some point this year.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Tryptamine » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:53 pm

Not that I was particularly worried to begin with, but I feel safe in saying no FA of any real substance is going to be joining the Cardinals anytime soon unless they either overpay or their market is completely gone.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby The_Achiever » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:02 pm

Talk about a dysfunctional organization. Their ownership/front office is a joke and it all slides downhill from there. They are asleep at the wheel.

They're like a more racist/backwater/dismal version of GARPAX.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby The_Achiever » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:03 pm

Tryptamine wrote:Not that I was particularly worried to begin with, but I feel safe in saying no FA of any real substance is going to be joining the Cardinals anytime soon unless they either overpay or their market is completely gone.


And you know they'll be scared to ever overpay again after the Fowler debacle.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby soccer10k » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:14 pm

champaignchris wrote:
Sammys Boombox wrote:
Duke Silver wrote:https://theathletic.com/428599/2018/07/11/bud-norris-st-louis-cardinals-bullpen-jordan-hicks-relationship-mike-matheny/

https://deadspin.com/extremely-cardinal ... 1827528307

These guys are having a good one.


Shhhh! We don’t want Mike getting fired.


How deep into the organization does this horsefeathers go, though? Aren’t the chances high that if they fire Matheny, they’ll hire someone more or less just like him to replace him?


Just look at the comments their GM just made about Dex. They’ll hire the same type of guy if they fire Matheny.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby The_Achiever » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:50 pm

soccer10k wrote:
champaignchris wrote:
Sammys Boombox wrote:
Shhhh! We don’t want Mike getting fired.


How deep into the organization does this horsefeathers go, though? Aren’t the chances high that if they fire Matheny, they’ll hire someone more or less just like him to replace him?


Just look at the comments their GM just made about Dex. They’ll hire the same type of guy if they fire Matheny.


I could see them landing Girardi if he wants back in. He's not great but competent enough, and checks all the cardinal-ly boxes.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby ScrubMD » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:03 pm

My goodness, St. Louis must be freaking Candyland for Bud.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:31 pm

The_Achiever wrote:
I could see them landing Girardi if he wants back in. He's not great but competent enough, and checks all the cardinal-ly boxes.

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Regular Show » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:24 pm

The_Achiever wrote:
soccer10k wrote:
champaignchris wrote:
How deep into the organization does this horsefeathers go, though? Aren’t the chances high that if they fire Matheny, they’ll hire someone more or less just like him to replace him?


Just look at the comments their GM just made about Dex. They’ll hire the same type of guy if they fire Matheny.


I could see them landing Girardi if he wants back in. He's not great but competent enough, and checks all the cardinal-ly boxes.


They're not landing Girardi. He's too smart to go there. I think they would ask him, but he'd probably decline.

Honestly, if Renteria got fired by a Chicago team again I could maybe see Girardi signing with the White Sox. They are a team on the rise.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Brian » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:30 pm

"My husband hits me because he loves me"

"He has the best intentions for me," Hicks told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch on Thursday. "I think he's nudging me in the right direction. That's the best way to put it. ... It's a collective group doing it. You have to learn 10 times faster in the big leagues. You have to adjust 10 times faster. You have to be mentally stronger than you have ever been before. You have to make all of that happen faster. I have no problem with anybody getting on me. I get that. I have to listen."


http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2408 ... bud-norris
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Banedon » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:48 pm

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/basebal ... 085ff.html


Bill DeWitt Jr., the Cardinals’ chairman since his group bought the team after the 1995 season, is as painfully aware as almost anyone else that the first 60 percent or so of the Cardinals’ season hasn’t gone exactly to script. But, as the Cardinals prepare to finish the unofficial first half of the season with a three-game series here this weekend against the revived Cincinnati Reds, he holds steadfast to his preseason estimates.

“I still believe in our club,” said DeWitt Thursday. “I think it’s a playoff-caliber club if we’re clicking on all cylinders and, hopefully, that will occur.

“We haven’t played as well as we had hoped. We’re above .500 (47-44), which is good, but I thought at this point, we’d be better.”


DeWitt does not normally get involved in daily activities but he felt the need to get in touch with Fowler after the recent kerfuffle about his “energy level.”

“I did send him a text,” said DeWitt. “I told him baseball can be a humbling game for all of us, whether it’s me or baseball operations or a manager’s decision or the players. In the end, talent and perseverance can be the commodities that will prevail and he’s got that package.

“He’s been successful. He’s had a long major league career. He’s still young by major league standards at 32. He should believe in himself. And we believe in him or we wouldn’t have signed him (to a five-year contract).

“I feel he had an excellent year for us last year. He was a force offensively (18 homers and .363 on-base percentage).”


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Re: The Cardinals

Postby CubInOK » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:16 am

Mike Matheny fired. His next job will be selling Affliction shirts to suburban dads.
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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby mul21 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:24 am

Mozeliak must be feeling the heat. Not really surprised, but still a little bit unexpected.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Duke Silver » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:25 am

Remember when they gave him an extension the day after we won the World Series?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammys Boombox » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:26 am

Our hitters just became a little safer. Probably a good thing considering they might be pissed when we are ending their season in late July.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby CubInOK » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:32 am

They will leave our series against them after the All-Star break under .500.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:35 am

Damn. My sincere wish for the BFIB was Matheny as Cards manager for life.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:36 am

This sucks.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Derwood » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:48 am

Brian Price is available
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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Rob » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:09 am

It's nice that our players are less likely to get into a stupid beanball war, but I always did enjoy having an important position on the Cardinals staffed by an utter meathead. Mattheny was totally inept, and making it hard to attract and retain talent unless they paid through the nose, a la Fowler.

That said, I'm not too worried that they'll replace him with somebody a whole lot better. The core of that team has run out its competitive window and if the front office keeps pushing for a wild card berth every year there's not much reason for a good manager to board to a sinking ship.

They'll hire somebody pretty crappy to run out the string on the next couple seasons while they work up the courage to rebuild. I wonder what Mike Quade is doing?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby NonProfitCow » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:27 am

shut up guys I'm happy
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