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Postby big ball chunky time » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:22 pm

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That's super weird and I've seen almost every kind of pitch grip.

I honestly don't even understand the point of tucking in the middle finger here, like you would the index finger on a traditional knucklecurve grip. Just throw a split-change or some variation of that. I'm curious to see the Rapsodo numbers for this.


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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Regular Show » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:39 pm


Yeah, I got my copy last week.

It's a fantastic book and I haven't finished it. It might be the Moneyball for this decade. It's already one of my favorite baseball books and a great way to support Eric and Kiley for all their hard work. It starts with an awesome excerpt from Skyfall and how it relates to scouts and baseball.

They put a lot into this book and it shows. There is an interesting story early in the book about Tim Wilken and the Cubs' draft room in 2007. I thought he was super high on Josh Vitters, but he actually wanted Jarrod Parker. Both ended up being disappointing picks, but it was a cool story. I'm not a fan of the trying to find a consensus in the room approach; identify your best scout(s) and/or national crosschecker and let them go to work. Everyone in the room wanted Vitters except for Tim Wilken, apparently.

The book is very informative, especially for people unfamiliar with scouting. I get crap for saying this, but I already know a lot of the stuff in this book. Like how an assistant GM doesn't decide to go backwards on the organizational hierarchy to become a scouting director lol (salary is far worse)... that isn't normal.

I'm biased but I think It's better than The Arm, it's better than Keith Law's first book, it's better than Moneyball. It's great and I hope they collaborate again on another book down the road.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby 17 Seconds » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:18 am

Regular Show wrote:
That's super weird and I've seen almost every kind of pitch grip.

I honestly don't even understand the point of tucking in the middle finger here, like you would the index finger on a traditional knucklecurve grip. Just throw a split-change or some variation of that. I'm curious to see the Rapsodo numbers for this.


bauer has a grip that looks a lot like the finger circle game
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby NonProfitCow » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:46 am

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Regular Show wrote:
That's super weird and I've seen almost every kind of pitch grip.

I honestly don't even understand the point of tucking in the middle finger here, like you would the index finger on a traditional knucklecurve grip. Just throw a split-change or some variation of that. I'm curious to see the Rapsodo numbers for this.


bauer has a grip that looks a lot like the finger circle game

Bauer's would just be a circle change.

As for the grip above, why not just throw a forkball?
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby soccer10k » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:39 pm

So I knew about Brenly leaving Randy Johnson in to throw 104 pitches in Game 6 of the 01 WS even though Arizona was up 12-0 after 3 and 15-0 after 4.

But on today’s Effectively Wild, they mentioned that Byung-Hyun Kim threw 61 pitches in Game 4. This wasn’t crazy since he had thrown 50+ out of the pen 3 other times that year. After each of those other appearances, he got 3, 3 and 2 days off. However, in the WS, Brenly horsefeathering brought Kim back out for Game 5 the next day! As I’m sure everyone here remembers, it did not go well.
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I got to Ty Cobb in 7. In only about 10 minutes of trying. Could probably get down to 6 with some research.

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Postby NOLA » Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:34 pm

Phil Niekro to Edwin in two moves is impressive.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:11 pm

staged! Nobody sets up a net to throw toward windows
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:46 pm

Happ beat Hader 5-0. All is right with the world.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Regular Show » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:28 pm

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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Regular Show » Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:32 am


Great conversation and a great episode. It is kinda long, but if you're interested in hearing from Kiley and Eric then it's well worth it. They talk about their book and the future of scouts in baseball and how the industry is changing. I miss their UMP podcast so this is the closest thing we'll get to that again.

I definitely recommend purchasing the book. It's a fantastic read during these self-quarantine times.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Regular Show » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:30 am


Spoiler: show


^^^This Dan Kurtz guy is an expert on KBO stuff. It's a great twitter account.


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I think we'll take whatever form of baseball we can get at this point.
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Postby NOLA » Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:59 pm

Major League Baseball officials have become cautiously optimistic this week that the season will start in late June, and no later than July 2, playing at least 100 regular-season games, according to three executives with knowledge of the talks. They requested anonymity because the plan is still under consideration
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MLB is considering a three-division, 10-team plan in which teams play only within their division – a concept gaining support among owners and executives. It would abolish the traditional American and National Leagues, and realign the divisions based on geography
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New York Yankees and Mets, Boston Red Sox, Washington Nationals, Baltimore Orioles, Philadelphia Phillies, Pittsburgh Pirates, Toronto Blue Jays, Tampa Bay Rays, Miami Marlins

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Los Angeles Dodgers and Angels, San Francisco Giants, Oakland Athletics, San Diego Padres, Arizona Diamondbacks, Colorado Rockies, Texas Rangers, Houston Astros, Seattle Mariners

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Chicago Cubs and Chicago White Sox, Milwaukee Brewers, St. Louis Cardinals, Kansas City Royals, Cincinnati Reds, Cleveland Indians, Minnesota Twins, Atlanta Braves, Detroit Tigers
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Postby UMFan83 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:53 pm

I’m assuming in these situations they would just have the DH for all games? Heck we might have seen the last of pitchers hitting if they move forward with adding the DH to the NL in 2021.

Anyways, I feel like this gives an advantage to the AL teams playing in divisions with NL teams since they’ve built their rosters to accommodate a 9th starting batter.

Maybe the Cubs can convince Zo to come back for a 80 game season at DH.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:11 pm

UMFan83 wrote:I’m assuming in these situations they would just have the DH for all games? Heck we might have seen the last of pitchers hitting if they move forward with adding the DH to the NL in 2021.

Anyways, I feel like this gives an advantage to the AL teams playing in divisions with NL teams since they’ve built their rosters to accommodate a 9th starting batter.

Maybe the Cubs can convince Zo to come back for a 80 game season at DH.

Pretty sure they’ve said the DH and expanded rosters will be part of any plan. I also think our roster is built perfectly fine for a DH and we aren’t at an inherit disadvantage vs an AL team. Between Schwarbs, Souza, Happ, Kipnis, Rizzo, Vic, Willy, KB and Bote we have a lot of flexibility with how to play guys in different spots and use the DH.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:57 pm

I've mentioned this before, but if you love stories like that, you should definitely read Crazy '08. It's full of that stuff plus as we all know that season has a happy ending.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

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Spoiler: show
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Found this in the comment section :lol:

That's awesome lol
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Thurman Merman » Sat May 02, 2020 3:33 am

Happ made the mlb the show quarter finals.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby 17 Seconds » Mon May 04, 2020 12:23 am

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:I've mentioned this before, but if you love stories like that, you should definitely read Crazy '08. It's full of that stuff plus as we all know that season has a happy ending.


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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Regular Show » Mon May 04, 2020 4:16 am


I'm definitely rooting for the Lotte Giants. They hired former Cubs scout Sung Min-kyu as their new GM.

Yeah, I'll definitely watch some games if ESPN comes to an agreement with KBO and its broadcast partners.
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