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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Bull » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:52 pm

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17 Seconds wrote:the cardinals have been a horsefeathers the last 2 years and somehow they like already caught back up to us


That's what happens when you take a rest in the middle of a race while the other runners keep running.


Yeah, but this race had a finish line in the middle.
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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby The Logan » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:41 pm

I strained an intercostal muscle before and it was crippling. Next to the disc I slipped a few years ago, that was probably the most painful injury I've had.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:44 pm

The Logan wrote:I strained an intercostal muscle before and it was crippling. Next to the disc I slipped a few years ago, that was probably the most painful injury I've had.

Yeah those suck, have to imagine he’s going to miss a decent amount of time. Can’t exactly swing a bat or do regular baseball motions with that.
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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby squally1313 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:25 pm

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The only thing better than having one first baseman locked up to a big contract in their 30s is having two.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:28 pm

The Logan wrote:https://streamable.com/56qqt

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Wait...didn't he horsefeathering do that against the Brewers, too?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:29 pm

He did! OK, I thought I was going a little crazy imagining it...

https://www.mlb.com/cut4/marcell-ozuna- ... c282315820
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:47 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:He did! OK, I thought I was going a little crazy imagining it...

https://www.mlb.com/cut4/marcell-ozuna- ... c282315820

It's not nearly as funny when it helps the Brewers.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby BigSlick » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:13 pm

The Logan wrote:https://streamable.com/56qqt

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This should count as a home run, come on now
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:03 am

Fowler is such a nice guy he even helps out opposing pitchers trying to hit a home run:

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby UMFan83 » Wed May 01, 2019 5:46 pm

I just realized that although the Cubs have gone 14-6 since their 1-6 start, the Cardinals have actually gained a game on them in the standings over that same time frame.

Their offense will regress but they should be a formidable foe most of the season.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed May 01, 2019 5:47 pm

UMFan83 wrote:I just realized that although the Cubs have gone 14-6 since their 1-6 start, the Cardinals have actually gained a game on them in the standings over that same time frame.

Their offense will regress but they should be a formidable foe most of the season.

We’re gonna sweep them this weekend. They’re not this good and need to drop down a bit and we’re due for something like that.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby UMFan83 » Wed May 01, 2019 5:59 pm

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UMFan83 wrote:I just realized that although the Cubs have gone 14-6 since their 1-6 start, the Cardinals have actually gained a game on them in the standings over that same time frame.

Their offense will regress but they should be a formidable foe most of the season.

We’re gonna sweep them this weekend. They’re not this good and need to drop down a bit and we’re due for something like that.


The thing that worries me is that the SP was supposed to be at least average, possibly a strength and its been like bottom 5 in the league so far. Their offense though has been completely unsustainable of course. If the SP improves and the offense regresses they should still be pretty good. I could totally see us sweeping them this weekend and never looking back too.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed May 01, 2019 6:17 pm

UMFan83 wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:I just realized that although the Cubs have gone 14-6 since their 1-6 start, the Cardinals have actually gained a game on them in the standings over that same time frame.

Their offense will regress but they should be a formidable foe most of the season.

We’re gonna sweep them this weekend. They’re not this good and need to drop down a bit and we’re due for something like that.


The thing that worries me is that the SP was supposed to be at least average, possibly a strength and its been like bottom 5 in the league so far. Their offense though has been completely unsustainable of course. If the SP improves and the offense regresses they should still be pretty good. I could totally see us sweeping them this weekend and never looking back too.

I know it’s been bad but I think their pitching is going closer to how I expected vs some of the more positive projections. I think there’s some major flaws in their pitching and downside than others I think.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed May 01, 2019 6:24 pm

The SP have been nearly a full run better than their FIP so far, so even with positive regression from a peripheral perspective that could be canceled out by regression in true results.

That said, I wish I had said this more strongly before the season than a stray prediction, but the Cardinals were going to be the stiffest competition for the Central. Between the pitching not taking a leap forward and their position player group not going to continue to put up a .360 wOBA, they're going to slow down though.
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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Regular Show » Sat May 18, 2019 10:25 am



Lol... They have FIVE No. 1 starters?

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby soccer10k » Sun May 19, 2019 4:46 am

He meant that all of their starters are equally mediocre that any one of the 5 could be their No 1.

It is pretty impressive that all 5 of their starters have ERA’s between 4.34 and 4.93.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Bertz » Sun May 19, 2019 8:55 pm

Pair of Fun Facts for your Cardinals schadenfreude as we pass the quarter pole of the season:

Luke Weaver: 1.3 fWAR
Carson Kelly: 0.5 WAR
Paul Goldschmidt: 0.9 fWAR

Kyle Hendricks: 1.4 fWAR
Jon Lester: 1.2 fWAR
Cole Hamels: 0.9 fWAR
Jose Quintana: 0.9 fWAR
Cardinal's entire pitching staff: 1.1 fWAR

Also, it's hard to fun fact-ify it, but guaranteeing $253.5 million in additional dollars to Goldschmidt, Carpenter, and Mikolas this spring looks pretty bad right now.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby d_money » Mon May 20, 2019 3:22 am

A lotta Cards on the wrong side of 30 - Fowler, Molina, Carpenter, Goldschmitt, Mikolas, Miller - with significant financial commitments. They could get old/bad real fast.
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