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Re: The Cardinals

Postby MWV » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:32 am

Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/lindseyadler/status/1015092659709411329?s=19

It’s all been completely predictable, but I still hate the way that Stl has treated Dex. The dumb homer side of me wants the Cubs to trade for him just to bring him home.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Regular Show » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:27 am

MWV wrote:
Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/lindseyadler/status/1015092659709411329?s=19

It’s all been completely predictable, but I still hate the way that Stl has treated Dex. The dumb homer side of me wants the Cubs to trade for him just to bring him home.


It's not dumb. I think a part of our collective brains all want to "bring him home". It's just not possible with the current roster construction plus his contract and the simple fact that the Cardinals and Cubs just don't make trades with each other.

I thought about possible trades to extricate Dexter from the Cardinals and one that sorta makes sense is Ian Desmond for Dexter Fowler. Both of them have been terrible this year and have three years left on their contracts.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby CubInOK » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:38 pm

Fowler's .201 BABIP make me think he's due for a regression to his mean.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:31 pm



Mike Matheny motivational texts.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby treebird » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:49 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/bernieshow/status/1015247385352638464?s=21

Mike Matheny motivational texts.


“essentially blocked/ignored” is such a meaningless phrase, just trying to smear fowler.

if fowler actually blocked matheny’s number in his phone, that would be hilarious and also an actual story. but “essentially blocked/ignored” means what, that he almost but didn’t stop reading the texts? what the hell does that even mean?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:03 pm

treebird wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/bernieshow/status/1015247385352638464?s=21

Mike Matheny motivational texts.


“essentially blocked/ignored” is such a meaningless phrase, just trying to smear fowler.

if fowler actually blocked matheny’s number in his phone, that would be hilarious and also an actual story. but “essentially blocked/ignored” means what, that he almost but didn’t stop reading the texts? what the hell does that even mean?


Miklasz spent his show yesterday reaming Matheny over this and other things, so I don't think that's intended to be unflattering to Fowler. I think the way to interpret it is they don't have the exact specificity of how Fowler is ignoring daily lineup/motivational texts from Matheny, but it's clear they've been tuned out by him.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby SouthSideRyan » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:13 pm

One too many Robert E Lee quotes.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:52 pm



It gets even better from there, because The Athletic writer Mark Saxon notes that Fowler’s relationship with team manager Mike Matheny has also turned frigid, that the two “barely talk and haven’t for months.”

“Mike Matheny sends out, I think nightly, text messages with the next day’s lineup on them and usually like a motivational-type message in there. And I think Dex kind of blocked those and started ignoring those,” he said. “So it’s not great I don’t think; communication between those two.”

That’s fantastic. Imagine your boss emailing you a horsefeathering fortune cookie slogan every night before you go to bed. “Dave, I want those TPS reports on my desk by 10 a.m. sharp. Also, character is not forged in the mountaintop but in the valley.” What a complete horsefeathering pud. I would purposely strike out in every at-bat just to own him.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:52 pm


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Why is Fowler, a former all-star who is generally a consistent and well-liked player, struggling? Is it just a random slump? Is it because of a hidden injury? Is it because people in St. Louis think crackers are pizza?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:53 pm

For his part, Fowler has denied slacking on the field but admitted his time in St. Louis has been “up and down.” He was benched for outfield Harrison Bader last month and now the Cardinals, whose uniforms are the same color as a MAGA hat, are in tight spot where they really need Fowler to stop sucking. He’s probably too expensive to trade, but it’s hard to let him play his way out of a slump when he’s not playing well enough to merit a spot in the lineup to begin with. What on earth do they do with this guy?

I don’t know. I don’t give a horsefeathers. That’s not my problem. Personally, I’m glad the Cardinals are languishing in the sewer and are clumsily trying to Cardinals Way their way out of this mess, because they’re a horsefeathers team run by horsefeathers people and cheered on by horsefeathers fans. horsefeathers them. I hope Dexter Fowler doesn’t even bother to wear shoes to the dugout anymore.


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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Brian » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:09 pm

Did we know Dex and his wife named his new daughter IVY ?

That and his comments Sunday about Joe and Rizzo probably aren't going to help him in the popularity department in St. Louis.

In response to Joe publicly supporting him -

“It was awesome to see that,” Fowler said Sunday at AT&T Park, where the Cardinals concluded a four-game series against the Giants – the Cubs’ next opponent. “I thank him very much. It’s a breath of fresh air.”


“I’ve always respected Joe for that,” Fowler said. “I didn’t even know he was going to say anything. Out of nowhere, I heard about it.”

Fowler’s second child, named Ivy Noor, arrived on July 4 and will allow Fowler to catch up with former teammate Anthony Rizzo when the Cardinals travel to Wrigley Field for a five-game series starting July 19.

“Rizz already has seen photos of the baby,” Fowler said. “Rizz is excited. But Naya (Fowler’s older daughter) is his favorite. She’s going to be a flower girl in his wedding.”


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ba ... story.html
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Tim » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:12 pm

Yeah, Rizzo sure sounds like an awful bro dude off the field.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:41 pm

Tim wrote:Yeah, Rizzo sure sounds like an awful bro dude off the field.


Sociopaths know how to approximate acceptable behaviors to allow themselves to slip mostly unnoticed in everyday society. The terrifying truth about his tinyface is that it just means his mask of sanity is even smaller.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Regular Show » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:26 pm

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Regular Show » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:34 pm



Another reason to dislike Kolten Wong. I hope that ump sees this video.

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby 17 Seconds » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:50 pm

I will cry if magary ever leaves deadspin
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby CubInOK » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:52 am

They REALLY need to DFA Fowler. He's begging for it.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby PackLandVA » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:23 am

Any teams they could trade him for salary dumps? He still has almost $50 million over the next 3 years, so it would be tough for the Cards to swallow. And also tough for another team to take on.

Would the DBacks take a flyer on him in order to get rid of Yasmany Tomas' contract? Wouldn't he be the type of player the Cards think they could resurrect? The money isn't equal, but YT is quite a bit younger and maybe seen as having potential.

What about Samardzija? He's due about $40+ million over the next two years. Or maybe Melancon?

I don't think any of these players really help the Cards, and Dex probably doesn't help the other teams. But like many have stated, I'd like to see Dex go to a team where he's appreciated.

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On a side note, not that it would ever happen. But if the Cards were willing to take Heyward back with his current contract if the Cubs took Dex back with his current contract, who says no first? Would anyone on this board make that trade?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby champaignchris » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:55 pm

PackLandVA wrote:On a side note, not that it would ever happen. But if the Cards were willing to take Heyward back with his current contract if the Cubs took Dex back with his current contract, who says no first? Would anyone on this board make that trade?


The Cubs say no first. And very quickly. Heyward might not live up to his contract. But he’ll come a lot closer to doing so than Fowler. And at least over the next three years, the difference in cost between the two is negligible.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby abmillis » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:03 pm

champaignchris wrote:
PackLandVA wrote:On a side note, not that it would ever happen. But if the Cards were willing to take Heyward back with his current contract if the Cubs took Dex back with his current contract, who says no first? Would anyone on this board make that trade?


The Cubs say no first. And very quickly. Heyward might not live up to his contract. But he’ll come a lot closer to doing so than Fowler. And at least over the next three years, the difference in cost between the two is negligible.


Also, Heyward would probably opt out just to not be in St Louis any longer than he has to be.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby rocket » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:12 pm

jesus, i know heyward has struggled at the plate but putting him back in st. louis is cruel and unusual punishment
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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammys Boombox » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:20 am

Duke Silver wrote:https://theathletic.com/428599/2018/07/11/bud-norris-st-louis-cardinals-bullpen-jordan-hicks-relationship-mike-matheny/

https://deadspin.com/extremely-cardinal ... 1827528307

These guys are having a good one.


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