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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Andy » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:32 pm


I find it amusing they think they have any remote chance for either one.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Regular Show » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:08 am

http://interact.stltoday.com/forums/vie ... d229aa73ea

Just wanted to share this gem from cards talk:

Reasons why Harper is attracted to STL...

Difference of why STL is a player in the Harper landing... (compared to other players)

1) grew up in Vegas. He doesn’t need the “bight lights, bells an whistles” like Stanton needed/wanted.
2) married. Not single like Stanton isn’t looking for off the field benefits.
3) at 26, he’s an old veteran.
4) his religion—even though Mormons are located (everywhere) the Midwest appeals more to the culture (I.e Bible Belt of Missouri).
5) friends with Kris. While it’s well documented that Harper and the northsider are friends, seeing each other 19 times within the division is enough. Just because your friend jumps off a bridge would you?
6) the most unpopular reason, that I don’t agree/disagree or I’m willing to discuss. He’s white. While race shouldn’t have anything to do with anything, the reality is it does. Latin players want to play in big cities.


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Re: The Cardinals

Postby NonProfitCow » Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:14 am

Regular Show wrote:http://interact.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1291232&sid=10c3aa51da55beb664fd6ed229aa73ea

Just wanted to share this gem from cards talk:

They're youtube comment people. Don't.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Banedon » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:42 am

Adam Wainwright's contract with the St. Louis Cardinals has been put on hold because it violates the maximum-cut rule, and the pitcher will have to become a free agent before the agreement can be finalized, sources told the Associated Press on Thursday.

The Cardinals announced the agreement with the 37-year-old right-hander on Oct. 11. He has finished a $97.5 million, five-year contract that paid $19.5 million annually.

Under baseball's labor contract, his guaranteed salary could not be reduced by more than 20 percent if he remains on the roster continuously. That means he would have to be guaranteed at least $15.6 million.

His new deal contains a salary less than that figure, sources told the Associated Press. The maximum-cut rule would not apply if he becomes a free agent following the World Series and then agrees to the new deal with the Cardinals.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby The Logan » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:57 pm

Banedon wrote:
Adam Wainwright's contract with the St. Louis Cardinals has been put on hold because it violates the maximum-cut rule, and the pitcher will have to become a free agent before the agreement can be finalized, sources told the Associated Press on Thursday.

The Cardinals announced the agreement with the 37-year-old right-hander on Oct. 11. He has finished a $97.5 million, five-year contract that paid $19.5 million annually.

Under baseball's labor contract, his guaranteed salary could not be reduced by more than 20 percent if he remains on the roster continuously. That means he would have to be guaranteed at least $15.6 million.

His new deal contains a salary less than that figure, sources told the Associated Press. The maximum-cut rule would not apply if he becomes a free agent following the World Series and then agrees to the new deal with the Cardinals.


While funny that the cards have to go through the rigamarole of sending Wainwright through free agency, this seems like something both GM's and agents should have been well aware of.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:02 pm

The Logan wrote:
Banedon wrote:
Adam Wainwright's contract with the St. Louis Cardinals has been put on hold because it violates the maximum-cut rule, and the pitcher will have to become a free agent before the agreement can be finalized, sources told the Associated Press on Thursday.

The Cardinals announced the agreement with the 37-year-old right-hander on Oct. 11. He has finished a $97.5 million, five-year contract that paid $19.5 million annually.

Under baseball's labor contract, his guaranteed salary could not be reduced by more than 20 percent if he remains on the roster continuously. That means he would have to be guaranteed at least $15.6 million.

His new deal contains a salary less than that figure, sources told the Associated Press. The maximum-cut rule would not apply if he becomes a free agent following the World Series and then agrees to the new deal with the Cardinals.


While funny that the cards have to go through the rigamarole of sending Wainwright through free agency, this seems like something both GM's and agents should have been well aware of.

The Astros database had no such language
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:46 pm

Regular Show wrote:http://interact.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1291232&sid=10c3aa51da55beb664fd6ed229aa73ea

Just wanted to share this gem from cards talk:

Reasons why Harper is attracted to STL...

Difference of why STL is a player in the Harper landing... (compared to other players)

1) grew up in Vegas. He doesn’t need the “bight lights, bells an whistles” like Stanton needed/wanted.
2) married. Not single like Stanton isn’t looking for off the field benefits.
3) at 26, he’s an old veteran.
4) his religion—even though Mormons are located (everywhere) the Midwest appeals more to the culture (I.e Bible Belt of Missouri).
5) friends with Kris. While it’s well documented that Harper and the northsider are friends, seeing each other 19 times within the division is enough. Just because your friend jumps off a bridge would you?
6) the most unpopular reason, that I don’t agree/disagree or I’m willing to discuss. He’s white. While race shouldn’t have anything to do with anything, the reality is it does. Latin players want to play in big cities.


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he's white? Latin players only like big cities? Mormon? I thought bible thumpers hated Mormons???
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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:07 am

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Derwood » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:10 pm

That's funny, but not any dumber/crazier than every trade proposed on this board that starts with "We can offer some package of Almora, Caratni and Maples for _________"
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:20 pm

Derwood wrote:That's funny, but not any dumber/crazier than every trade proposed on this board that starts with "We can offer some package of Almora, Caratni and Maples for _________"


You have an incredible gift for incorrect sanctimony, it is your superpower
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby abmillis » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:56 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Derwood wrote:That's funny, but not any dumber/crazier than every trade proposed on this board that starts with "We can offer some package of Almora, Caratni and Maples for _________"


You have an incredible gift for incorrect sanctimony, it is your superpower


Seriously, we aren't putting those guys in deals for stars... Is there a single player in the cardinals org good enough to headline a deal for KB?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Derwood » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:40 pm

abmillis wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Derwood wrote:That's funny, but not any dumber/crazier than every trade proposed on this board that starts with "We can offer some package of Almora, Caratni and Maples for _________"


You have an incredible gift for incorrect sanctimony, it is your superpower


Seriously, we aren't putting those guys in deals for stars... Is there a single player in the cardinals org good enough to headline a deal for KB?


Most of us don’t, but a quick search will show you some embarrassing posts with Trout, Harper and Machado trade proposals centered around Almora, Happ, etc.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:05 pm

Derwood wrote:
abmillis wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
You have an incredible gift for incorrect sanctimony, it is your superpower


Seriously, we aren't putting those guys in deals for stars... Is there a single player in the cardinals org good enough to headline a deal for KB?


Most of us don’t, but a quick search will show you some embarrassing posts with Trout, Harper and Machado trade proposals centered around Almora, Happ, etc.


Made by known lunatics and randos.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Derwood » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:07 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
Derwood wrote:
abmillis wrote:
Seriously, we aren't putting those guys in deals for stars... Is there a single player in the cardinals org good enough to headline a deal for KB?


Most of us don’t, but a quick search will show you some embarrassing posts with Trout, Harper and Machado trade proposals centered around Almora, Happ, etc.


Made by known lunatics and randos.


I don’t have an up to date spreadsheet on the known lunatics
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:19 pm

Derwood wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:
Derwood wrote:
Most of us don’t, but a quick search will show you some embarrassing posts with Trout, Harper and Machado trade proposals centered around Almora, Happ, etc.


Made by known lunatics and randos.


I don’t have an up to date spreadsheet on the known lunatics


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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Derwood » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:50 pm

Knew that was coming
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:40 pm

Derwood wrote:Knew that was coming


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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Banedon » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:12 pm

The Royals have hired former Cardinals manager Mike Matheny as a special advisor for player development.
Matheny will "contribute in a variety of areas that will include player development and scouting." It's worth noting that manager Ned Yost will be entering his final year under contract in 2019, so Matheny would figure to be a candidate to replace him if he doesn't return for 2020.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:03 pm

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Glad Pham got out of there.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby jehr » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:01 pm

Banedon wrote:
The Royals have hired former Cardinals manager Mike Matheny as a special advisor for player development.
Matheny will "contribute in a variety of areas that will include player development and scouting." It's worth noting that manager Ned Yost will be entering his final year under contract in 2019, so Matheny would figure to be a candidate to replace him if he doesn't return for 2020.
Source: Rustin Dodd on Twitter
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So.... KC wants in on Houston's scouting database as well?
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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby TruffleShuffle » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:45 am

i went to a perth heat baseball game last week and pete kozma is batting #3 for them. :lol:
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Bull » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:22 pm

TruffleShuffle wrote:i went to a perth heat baseball game last week and pete kozma is batting #3 for them. :lol:

Hilarious that Kozma is batting 3rd for any team.
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