NL Central Also-Rans: Everyone but the Brewers I guess

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NL Central Also-Rans: Everyone but the Brewers I guess

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:44 pm

Listed in order of scariness. Discuss.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby David » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:46 pm

So t hat one Bill hAll Star guy seems to be their least delusional poster
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby SouthSideRyan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:05 pm

Why aren't the Cardinals listed?
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby champaignchris » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:23 pm

I have an unhealthy affinity for the Reds. Votto is, of course, an amazing player. Gennett, Suarez, Duvall and Schebler, if nothing else, at least knock the ball around that tiny little ballpark of theirs to keep things interesting. Raisel Iglesias throws 100 mph out of the pen.

The question for them is if they can get any health at all from DeSciafani and Finnegan.

If they can get full seasons from their decent young pitchers and have a serviceable starting staff, they'll be a fun team to watch... you know, for a 70-ish win team.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Agony and Ivy » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:48 pm

champaignchris wrote:I have an unhealthy affinity for the Reds. Votto is, of course, an amazing player. Gennett, Suarez, Duvall and Schebler, if nothing else, at least knock the ball around that tiny little ballpark of theirs to keep things interesting. Raisel Iglesias throws 100 mph out of the pen.

The question for them is if they can get any health at all from DeSciafani and Finnegan.

If they can get full seasons from their decent young pitchers and have a serviceable starting staff, they'll be a fun team to watch... you know, for a 70-ish win team.


I keep thinking the Reds should have a better staff going into every year and every horsefeathering year they give up like 450 bombs to their opposition.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby ConstableRabbit » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:53 pm

David wrote:So t hat one Bill hAll Star guy seems to be their least delusional poster

Shocking, given username.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby David » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:07 pm

ConstableRabbit wrote:
David wrote:So t hat one Bill hAll Star guy seems to be their least delusional poster

Shocking, given username.


i mean we've got dudes named after starlin castro on here, and a guy with a jen-ho tseng avatar so


(holy crap bill hall hit 35 horsefeathering home runs one year)
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby NonProfitCow » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:26 pm

They Brewers had a player named Geoff, so they can horsefeathers right off.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby javy knows my name » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:50 pm

David wrote:
ConstableRabbit wrote:
David wrote:So t hat one Bill hAll Star guy seems to be their least delusional poster

Shocking, given username.


i mean we've got dudes named after starlin castro on here, and a guy with a jen-ho tseng avatar so


(holy crap bill hall hit 35 horsefeathering home runs one year)


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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby David » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:57 pm

javy knows my name wrote:
David wrote:
ConstableRabbit wrote:Shocking, given username.


i mean we've got dudes named after starlin castro on here, and a guy with a jen-ho tseng avatar so


(holy crap bill hall hit 35 horsefeathering home runs one year)


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i was talking about starlin on you, you egomaniac
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby weis21 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:56 pm

David wrote:
ConstableRabbit wrote:
David wrote:So t hat one Bill hAll Star guy seems to be their least delusional poster

Shocking, given username.


i mean we've got dudes named after starlin castro on here, and a guy with a jen-ho tseng avatar so


(holy crap bill hall hit 35 horsefeathering home runs one year)

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby sneakypower » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:03 pm

David wrote:
ConstableRabbit wrote:
David wrote:So t hat one Bill hAll Star guy seems to be their least delusional poster

Shocking, given username.


i mean we've got dudes named after starlin castro on here, and a guy with a jen-ho tseng avatar so


(holy crap bill hall hit 35 horsefeathering home runs one year)

Bill Hall was a long-time personal favorite for pimping every deep flyball he hit just in case it was a HR
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:16 pm

do I need to re-tell the story of my daughter heckling Bill Hall at a AAA game?
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:17 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:do I need to re-tell the story of my daughter heckling Bill Hall at a AAA game?


Yes. Wasn't it 'your name is half L's' or something like that?
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:19 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Ding Dong Johnson wrote:do I need to re-tell the story of my daughter heckling Bill Hall at a AAA game?


Yes. Wasn't it 'your name is half L's' or something like that?

yep. made him laugh pretty hard hearing that from an 8 year old girl
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby George Hayduke » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:43 pm



Haha, his logic is so terrible it has me literally chuckling to myself.

"Sure the Brewers are only projected for 73 wins, but if 15 things break perfectly right, they could win 86 again and be right in the wild card race! Meanwhile if the Cubs don't see a major bounceback this year from several players, why, they might be doomed to repeat last year's performance of only 92 wins. WHAT THEN, CUBS FANS?!"
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby champaignchris » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:04 pm

My take:

If five of the Brewers’ position players have better seasons than they’ve ever had before, the Brewers might win more than 75 games!
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby David » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:22 am

David wrote:So t hat one Bill hAll Star guy seems to be their least delusional poster



http://forum.brewerfan.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p1077763

I reiterate

just start there and continue on down
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby philosophizer75 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:57 am

To be perfectly honest they don't seem very delusional as a whole to me.

They're seeing things through brewer-tainted glasses just like we are with the cubs. Most of that chunk there was pretty reasonable and thought out. Even the parts where they were discussing their hopes to catch the Cubs were presented more as outside chances (which is accurate) than declarative expectations.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby KingCubsFan » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:00 am

NonProfitCow wrote:They Brewers had a player named Geoff, so they can horsefeathers right off.

Is this a St. Louis thing?
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby David » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:04 am

philosophizer75 wrote:To be perfectly honest they don't seem very delusional as a whole to me.

They're seeing things through brewer-tainted glasses just like we are with the cubs. Most of that chunk there was pretty reasonable and thought out. Even the parts where they were discussing their hopes to catch the Cubs were presented more as outside chances (which is accurate) than declarative expectations.


The Brewers currently project to finish 17 games behind the Cubs (it probably gets a win or two better with more realistic playing time estimates). That's not Cubs-tainted glasses. That's an unbiased (Steamer, in this case, I think?) projection system. They are not talking about either team like fans of a team projected to be 17 games worse than the Cubs.

People think they are adding to an 86 win team, but they're really not.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:07 am

Posted in the Cain thread, but Yelich and Cain are the only 2 Brewers (outside of Nelson who’s shoulder exploded) who project to be inside the top 300, THREE HUNDRED, in WAR

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-bre ... o-the-top/
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Agony and Ivy » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:34 am

I completely forgot that I couldn't even hate follow Jesse Rogers anymore because he's just so stupid.



Then he pulls off this tweet that somehow shows up in my timeline and it all comes rushing back.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Duke Silver » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:35 am

David wrote:
philosophizer75 wrote:To be perfectly honest they don't seem very delusional as a whole to me.

They're seeing things through brewer-tainted glasses just like we are with the cubs. Most of that chunk there was pretty reasonable and thought out. Even the parts where they were discussing their hopes to catch the Cubs were presented more as outside chances (which is accurate) than declarative expectations.


The Brewers currently project to finish 17 games behind the Cubs (it probably gets a win or two better with more realistic playing time estimates). That's not Cubs-tainted glasses. That's an unbiased (Steamer, in this case, I think?) projection system. They are not talking about either team like fans of a team projected to be 17 games worse than the Cubs.

People think they are adding to an 86 win team, but they're really not.


Let's just hope they don't find out about the power of Mad Men gifs.
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