NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:09 am

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philosophizer75 wrote:To be perfectly honest they don't seem very delusional as a whole to me.

They're seeing things through brewer-tainted glasses just like we are with the cubs. Most of that chunk there was pretty reasonable and thought out. Even the parts where they were discussing their hopes to catch the Cubs were presented more as outside chances (which is accurate) than declarative expectations.


The Brewers currently project to finish 17 games behind the Cubs (it probably gets a win or two better with more realistic playing time estimates). That's not Cubs-tainted glasses. That's an unbiased (Steamer, in this case, I think?) projection system. They are not talking about either team like fans of a team projected to be 17 games worse than the Cubs.

People think they are adding to an 86 win team, but they're really not.


Let's just hope they don't find out about the power of Mad Men gifs.

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:20 am

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:
Duke Silver wrote:
David wrote:
The Brewers currently project to finish 17 games behind the Cubs (it probably gets a win or two better with more realistic playing time estimates). That's not Cubs-tainted glasses. That's an unbiased (Steamer, in this case, I think?) projection system. They are not talking about either team like fans of a team projected to be 17 games worse than the Cubs.

People think they are adding to an 86 win team, but they're really not.


Let's just hope they don't find out about the power of Mad Men gifs.

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:24 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:
Duke Silver wrote:
David wrote:
The Brewers currently project to finish 17 games behind the Cubs (it probably gets a win or two better with more realistic playing time estimates). That's not Cubs-tainted glasses. That's an unbiased (Steamer, in this case, I think?) projection system. They are not talking about either team like fans of a team projected to be 17 games worse than the Cubs.

People think they are adding to an 86 win team, but they're really not.


Let's just hope they don't find out about the power of Mad Men gifs.

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby weis21 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:25 pm

back-to-back-to-back mad men gifs again???

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby David » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:35 pm

http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.as ... &teamid=23

I was looking at the non-Yelich/non-Cain portions of their lineup and yeeeeesh. I guess I didn't really realize it was that bad, and none of the projections seem to stand out as being egregiously pessimistic.

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby The_Achiever » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:06 pm

Banedon wrote:https://twitter.com/Brewers/status/956960252234256384



Oh snappity snap.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Bobson Dugnutt » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:18 pm

Banedon wrote:https://twitter.com/Brewers/status/956960252234256384


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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Brian » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:28 pm

To be fair, they didn't just tweet that out of the blue, it's a response to this



which was a response to this

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Postby Banedon » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:29 pm

None of which makes it a better tweet.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby David » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:34 pm

the cubs should reply with my signature
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby The_Achiever » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:38 pm

Brian wrote:To be fair, they didn't just tweet that out of the blue, it's a response to this



which was a response to this



Initially I thought that said "tail lights ready" as in the Cubs were now about to be behind them.

I fully endorse all NL Central teams trash talking the Cubs this offseason.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:41 pm

David wrote:the cubs should reply with my signature


If you mean an ominous picture of a deadeyed Happ, I agree. Sends all the right messages.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby HawkeTrackler » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:57 pm

Not a gif but with all the Brewers news recently I thought I'd jump on the Mad Men train

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Proven Veteran » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:58 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
David wrote:the cubs should reply with my signature


If you mean an ominous picture of a deadeyed Happ, I agree. Sends all the right messages.

We should just send Happ up to Milwaukee and have him sit in front of the stadium whittling a bone.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:06 pm

Proven Veteran wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:
David wrote:the cubs should reply with my signature


If you mean an ominous picture of a deadeyed Happ, I agree. Sends all the right messages.

We should just send Happ up to Milwaukee and have him sit in front of the stadium whittling a bone.


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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Duke Silver » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:20 pm

Banedon wrote:https://twitter.com/Brewers/status/956960252234256384


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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Enn Tea » Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:30 am

Banedon wrote:https://twitter.com/Brewers/status/956960252234256384


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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby David » Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:33 am

HawkeTrackler wrote:Not a gif but with all the Brewers news recently I thought I'd jump on the Mad Men train

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