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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:33 pm

We're probably going to have as many top 100 prospects as them too within a year.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Brian707 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:48 pm

Not to mention a big reason our farm system is barren is because they are playing on the big league team right now. Also, another got us a closer who helped win a WS. The other prospects got us a very good starter who is under team control for two more years after this.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby ScrubMD » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:18 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:We're probably going to have as many top 100 prospects as them too within a year.


That depends. If a former top 100 prospect has to go back to the minors due to not being any good, does he still count as a top 100 prospect? That could give them the edge.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby David » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:21 pm

Brian707 wrote:Not to mention a big reason our farm system is barren is because they are playing on the big league team right now. Also, another got us a closer who helped win a WS. The other prospects got us a very good starter who is under team control for two more years after this.


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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:24 pm

Keith Stone wrote:Also their all-in approach to each season is going to lead to a massive rebuild very soon.


Whut.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby David » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:27 pm

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Keith Stone wrote:Also their all-in approach to each season is going to lead to a massive rebuild very soon.


Whut.

that guy is a delusional loon who is always posting ramblings resembling this
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:39 pm

Never trust anyone who is willing to post such things seemingly under their own name.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby woodchip2153 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:41 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Never trust anyone who is willing to post such things seemingly under their own name.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=keith+stone
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Banedon » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:42 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Never trust anyone who is willing to post such things seemingly under their own name.


That's not his name....it's from a Keystone beer commercial campaign.

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:49 pm

The owner of brewerfan.net probably should get rid of all the lead-based paint there. The users must be licking the walls.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:50 pm

Banedon wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:Never trust anyone who is willing to post such things seemingly under their own name.


That's not his name....it's from a Keystone beer commercial campaign.

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Holy horsefeathers.

So this guy is like all the dudes parroting "dilly dilly" left and right, except about a trillion times more embarrassing.

Wow.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby The_Achiever » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:53 pm

I think it's fair to question where the Cubs will be after the 2021 season with so many guys ending their contracts or team control then (including Theo I believe), but I am confident that the Cubs will make the necessary preparations.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Tim » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:58 pm

Keith Stone wrote:....It will be interesting to see how they plug holes this season, while talented they definitely could use some help at the deadline or other teams(like us) could pass them with big acquisitions.

This is my favorite part.

uh, what holes? We have exactly one player with expiring control after this season - Justin Wilson.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Brian707 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:06 pm

The_Achiever wrote:I think it's fair to question where the Cubs will be after the 2021 season with so many guys ending their contracts or team control then (including Theo I believe), but I am confident that the Cubs will make the necessary preparations.



Theo might go on a permanent bender then with another ring or two. Meanwhile the Brewers and their fans can still celebrate 1982.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:16 pm

The_Achiever wrote:I think it's fair to question where the Cubs will be after the 2021 season with so many guys ending their contracts or team control then (including Theo I believe), but I am confident that the Cubs will make the necessary preparations.

You can say the same thing about every team 3-4+ years out
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby The_Achiever » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:26 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
The_Achiever wrote:I think it's fair to question where the Cubs will be after the 2021 season with so many guys ending their contracts or team control then (including Theo I believe), but I am confident that the Cubs will make the necessary preparations.

You can say the same thing about every team 3-4+ years out


Not the White Sox, 2021 is when they should really start being good =P~ :^o
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Agony and Ivy » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:51 pm

Sorry guys, but we're about to be replaced atop the division power rankings because this guy has figured horsefeathers out. You must read the thread to appreciate how good this truly is.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Thed Hoyerstein » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:41 pm

Agony and Ivy wrote:Sorry guys, but we're about to be replaced atop the division power rankings because this guy has figured horsefeathers out. You must read the thread to appreciate how good this truly is.


The Wong for Myers/Hand deal is almost as funny as Gyroko for Kelvin Herrea. KC"s window of contention is probably not opening until 2021 so of course they'll trade for an about to be 30 year old who will probably be replacement level for his next two years of team control.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:46 pm

Thed Hoyerstein wrote:
Agony and Ivy wrote:Sorry guys, but we're about to be replaced atop the division power rankings because this guy has figured horsefeathers out. You must read the thread to appreciate how good this truly is.


The Wong for Myers/Hand deal is almost as funny as Gyroko for Kelvin Herrea. KC"s window of contention is probably not opening until 2021 so of course they'll trade for an about to be 30 year old who will probably be replacement level for his next two years of team control.

Someone get the Padres on the phone and offer Bote or LaStella for Hand!!!
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:57 pm

he lost me at "Wong is a great fit"
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:12 pm

Wow, only 3-4 high impact in-season moves necessary to become dominant? We are horsefeathers
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:20 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
The_Achiever wrote:I think it's fair to question where the Cubs will be after the 2021 season with so many guys ending their contracts or team control then (including Theo I believe), but I am confident that the Cubs will make the necessary preparations.

You can say the same thing about every team 3-4+ years out


Yes this is the part that’s always forgotten. Yes, it’s true that the Cubs have a bit of a reckoning coming post-2021, but the number of teams who can have high confidence about a huge chunk of their roster that far out is basically zero. Look at the 2014 Astros, Yankees, or Dodgers, there’s like 5 players max who played significant roles on those teams who still are this year.

The counterpoint you’ll hear is that since the Cubs’ system is so horrendous they won’t be able to backfill for players they’re losing. This fails to recognize that 1) the Cubs are still quite likely to have multiple (high-priced) stars in the form of a signed Bryant and someone like Harper, meaning the onus is more on the system to provide decent players instead of franchise cornerstones 2) 3-4 years is an eternity in refilling a system 3) the Cubs have proven their player development bonafides many times over and 4) even with that money spent on stars they’ll still have financial muscle over the rest of the division. The 2022 Brewers have Cain and Yelich for one year and Hader for 2, everyone else is bad or gone by then. Their farm system has like 2 more OFP 55 guys at the moment, that’s not gonna create a moat at all.
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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Liam Neeson » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:51 am

Pirates going to Pirate


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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby cubsclapp » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:59 am

Liam Neeson wrote:Pirates going to Pirate




This guy's gonna be a real treat in the division.

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Re: NL Central Also-Rans: Reds, Brewers, Pirates

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:28 pm

Ennder on Brewerfan.net at 8:51 PM on 6/11 wrote:Cubs won a world series so it is really hard to knock them but the post world series years have been a disaster for them. They went from having one of the best rosters in baseball plus one of the best farm systems to having no farm system at all and a number of very dubious looking contracts.


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