Baseball History Thread

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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby David » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:02 pm

Oh good lord it was a joke. I'm not reading all that. Holy horsefeathers.
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The Cubs’ transaction list under Epstein and Hoyer reads like a work of fiction, a wish-fulfillment list composed in hindsight.

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Postby David » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:30 am

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The Cubs’ transaction list under Epstein and Hoyer reads like a work of fiction, a wish-fulfillment list composed in hindsight.

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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby SeldomSeen » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:58 pm

David wrote:

Plenty of good seats still available...
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:16 pm

I'd love to get a framed copy of that photo
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Postby biittner77 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:29 pm

David wrote:


That net doesn't look like it would actually stop anything from going through.
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snoodmonger wrote:Schwarber dong was as swaggy a dong as you're gonna see, fellas. If he'd dropped the bat cleanly, it would've jumped up and flipped itself.

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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:35 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:I'd love to get a framed copy of that photo


Indeed. That's a beautiful shot.
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby rocket » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:59 pm

It's awe-inspiring even now, but I wish I could experience the pure awesomeness of seeing a live baseball game in full color up close in the 30's-60's when all you'd seen of professional baseball beforehand was grainy black and white newsreel footage.
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby biittner77 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:24 pm

rocket wrote:It's awe-inspiring even now, but I wish I could experience the pure awesomeness of seeing a live baseball game in full color up close in the 30's-60's when all you'd seen of professional baseball beforehand was grainy black and white newsreel footage.

There's an old series called "When it was a game" that has a lot of old home movies from the 60s that you might want to check out. There's a lot of cool field level stuff and a lot of it is in color. I picked up the 60s-70s in a discount bin somewhere. I like to show it when I talk about the civil rights movement in class.
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:02 am

Neat print. Junior's cap should be backwards tho

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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby Banedon » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:57 pm

Oh FFS get Jeter the horsefeathers out of there.
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:15 pm

Banedon wrote:Oh FFS get Jeter the horsefeathers out of there.


Indeed. This is the MUCH better one of those:

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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby Banedon » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:50 pm

No Ernie Banks in either of them though.
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:59 pm

Well, I'd rather have A-Rod or Wagner at SS than Ernie
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby treebird » Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:24 pm

replace all those people with kyle schwarber
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:27 pm

treebird wrote:replace all those people with kyle schwarber


I was gonna say, pretty disrespectful for none of those pictures to have Bryant.
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby Banedon » Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:34 pm

treebird wrote:replace all those people with kyle schwarber


When they combine their powers, they summon Schwarber.

Someone should put appropriate faces on this gif.

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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby Gmoney08 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:21 am

OleMissCub wrote:
Banedon wrote:Oh FFS get Jeter the horsefeathers out of there.


Indeed. This is the MUCH better one of those:

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Are these sold anywhere?
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby Derwood » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:14 pm

MLB posted about a minute of color film footage from the last day at the Polo Grounds



Nothing super exciting, but still cool
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby cl smooth » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:03 pm

Derwood wrote:MLB posted about a minute of color film footage from the last day at the Polo Grounds



Nothing super exciting, but still cool


i love playing at the polo grounds in the show.
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby Derwood » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:10 pm

I'm bored so I'm making some baseball quizzes on Sporcle. I'm looking at all the first rounds of the amateur drafts, and I don't know if there was a worse year than 1975

http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft ... ar_ID=1975

Rick Cerone's 8.1 career bWAR is #1 in that year's first round, and all the players in the first round combined for a 10.7 career bWAR. WOOF


ETA: By contrast, the 1977 draft has six players with a career bWAR over 20, with a total round career bWAR of 264.8
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby Derwood » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:58 am

Just for fun, the career bWAR of all the #1 overall picks since 1965

* = no MLB service time
bold = still active

117.7 - Alex Rodriguez (1993)
85.0 - Chipper Jones (1990)
83.6 - Ken Griffey Jr. (1987)
50.0 - Joe Mauer (2001)
43.8 - Adrian Gonzalez (2000)
42.0 - Darryl Strawberry (1980)
38.5 - Harold Baines (1977)
34.3 - B.J. Surhoff (1985)
33.1 - Rick Monday (1965)
32.3 - Darin Erstad (1995)
31.9 - David Price (2007)
31.7 - Andy Benes (1988)
28.5 - Mike Moore (1981)
28.1 - Josh Hamilton (1999)
26.9 - Floyd Bannister (1976)
26.7 - Justin Upton (2005)
26.2 - Tim Belcher (1983)
21.7 - Bob Horner (1978)
21.5 - Bryce Harper (2010)
20.9 - Ben McDonald (1989)
18.8 - Pat Burrell (1998)
18.2 - Stephen Strasburg (2009)
17.6 - Jeff Burroughs (1969)
16.7 - Jeff King (1986)
15.8 - Phil Nevin (1992)
13.0 - Kris Benson (1996)
11.5 - Shawon Dunston (1982)
10.1 - Carlos Correa (2012)
9.4 - Gerrit Cole (2011)
9.4 - Ron Blomberg (1967)
7.2 - Mike Ivie (1970)
5.5 - Tim Foli (1968)
4.8 - Bill Almon (1974)
3.1 - Luke Hochever (2006)
2.5 - Delmon Young (2003)
2.2 - Paul Wilson (1994)
2.1 - Matt Bush (2004)
1.3 - Tim Beckham (2008)
0.7 - David Clyde (1973)
0.4 - Dave Roberts (1972)
0.0 - Mickey Moniak (2016) *
0.0 - Dansby Swanson (2015) *
0.0 - Brady Aiken (2014) *
0.0 - Mark Appel (2013) *
0.0 - Brien Taylor (1991) *
0.0 - Steven Chilcott (1966) *
-0.2 - Bryan Bullington (2002)
-0.5 - Matt Anderson (1997)
-0.5 - Al Chambers (1979)
-1.3 - Shawn Abner (1984)
-1.7 - Danny Goodwin (1975+1971)
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:56 am

Kinda surprised to see Burrell with so low an fWAR. He put up some pretty strong offensive numbers throughout his career. Although I guess that was the only thing he did well.
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby Derwood » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:58 am

OleMissCub wrote:Kinda surprised to see Burrell with so low an fWAR. He put up some pretty strong offensive numbers throughout his career. Although I guess that was the only thing he did well.


This is bWAR, not fWAR, though Fangraphs only has him slightly higher at 19.0
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Re: Baseball History Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:15 am

Derwood wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:Kinda surprised to see Burrell with so low an fWAR. He put up some pretty strong offensive numbers throughout his career. Although I guess that was the only thing he did well.


This is bWAR, not fWAR, though Fangraphs only has him slightly higher at 19.0


I see now. Regardless, that's pretty low for a guy with 300 HR.
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